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Sakmongkol ak 47

Sunday 30 December 2012

Where is our Puspahanas? (2)

Rose- Dont you worry about Deepak babe!

See how people in positions abused their power?  The PM, defence Minister, the management of LTAT. A division of LTAT, Boustead Holdings answerable to the Defence Minister, buys 80% of Astacanggih Sdn Bhd for RM30 million.
What does Astacanggih have? It has no property. It has no track record. It has an outstanding loan with Kuwait Finance House. That is a liability. It has an unsettled dispute over rights on a land of 200 acres that on paper, is still owned by Awan Megah Sdn Bhd.
So why buy Astacanggih? Where is the value? Why not ignore Astacanggih and concentrate on Awan Megah the company that has value? It has a contract to build a RM100 million Defence Research Center and legal rights over an estate of 223 acres in Kelang. Who the hell in LTAT recommended the purchase of Astacanggih?
The answer to the mystery is because Astacangih is majority owned by Deepak or his nominee companies. This guy is giving nightmares to the PM and his missus. He is also dragging the good name of Tun Razak’s family. It must be in the interest of the Great Leader, Kim Il Najib, that LTAT sprang into action. Stupid pun takpe. LTAT buys off Deepak for RM30 million and he has no standing any longer to sue RR (Raja Ropiaah). It is now clear; RR is more important to Najib and Rosmah and must be saved. 
But why buy only 80%? Why not the whole 100%? Who owns the balance 20%? Maybe Raja Ropiaah or some Defence people. It’s funny why LTAT did not buy out 100% knowing the owner can do a Deepak stunt too. Unless that 20% is owned by friendly parties.  In which case, we might as well say LTAT owns 100% of Astacanggih now.
We will have to assume that Astancaggih is 100% owned by LTAT through Boustead Holdings. Semua sama sahaja- penyamun tarbus.
That settles the amount which Deepak paid to Raja Ropiaah to gain control of a piece of land planned by MINDEF to build a defence training center.  The purchase of Astancanggih by LTAT serves to confirm that Depak indeed has grounds over his dispute with Raja Ropiaah.
How did the amount of RM30 million come about?
Deepak pays money to Raja Ropiaah.
This is how: Deepak paid out RM13 million to Raja Ropiaah, RM8 million in political contributions, RM7 million of financial costs and RM2 million in legal and miscellaneous costs.  Total RM30 million. The lady got RM13 million buta money, plus RM8 million for political contributions.
Where is the RM8 million?
The UMNO people in Raja Ropiaah’s division better checked how much was given to the division.  The SOP of UMNO leaders is when they meet up with the Minister who will be the end user of the training center, will say- “boss, I promise to give X amount to the division. You know we need to spend money to regain Selangor and also ensure the coming delegates are solidly behind you. Najib will smile and write on the proposal paper- saya tidak ada halangan untuk cadangan ini, sila ambil tidakan dan beri saya lapuran susulan.
The actual usual practice among the thieves in UMNO is, they paid nothing to the division. The RM8 million may have been pocketed by her or may be given to the Defence Minister then or maybe to MINDEF people. Maybe. Many buayas there.
Let’s see how this scandal started. One day, Raja Ropiaah met up with Defence Minister Najib. Raja presented Red Lips Minister with a proposal. Boss, said Raja Ropiaah- I have checked.  There’s this 223.33 acres plus land belonging to MINDEF. Its tanah milik kerajaan persekutuan. The state government has no jurisdiction. The stutterer MB cannot do anything. They are in 3 lots. Why don’t I propose to build a National Defence Center for the government on a cross subsidy basis?  I build the center for RM100 million, the government pays me a certain amount in cash while the balance paid for by the MINDEF land in Klang.  You pay us cash RM27 million and the balance in the form of land. 223 acres in Port Klang- Kementerian Pertahanan punya.
We will build you a national research center valued at RM100 million. We shall name it Pusat Pengajian Pertahanan Nasional (Puspahanas). Its 1 Malaysia standard.
Najib will say- have you checked with Bahagian Pembangunan to make sure we have title over the land? To which RR would have answered: - I have checked boss- indeed I have kautim some key people in Pembangunan. Sure the land is MINDEF’s.
Ok lah itu macam. Without waiting to be asked- boss, I am not greedy, I won’t take all the money. I will give some to the division and some to your slash fund. That Muhyidin has got the hungry look. His people are going around the country building support and will challenge you next year. We better get ready. I will make sure wanita members support you. Moreover they like your red lips.


the gaffe guy who knows,  30 December 2012 at 03:15  

We have to ask ourselves why do the carpetman named Deepak,worth many times a millionaire sell out the Najibs.Betrayal of the highest order,thats why.At least now this frog has learnt the bitter lesson of betrayal,when fooling in the wrong company of sharks.

the mean machine,  30 December 2012 at 03:24  

It is an open secret that in Umno,it is a dog eats dog world.Whichever dog belongs to the strongest kennel has the upper hands.That is the reason Najib wants whatever quatity he can get his hands on.Numbers are what matters to Najib and his merrymen.Quality does not matter,afterall they are dealing with dogs only.

bludy busy misybodies,  30 December 2012 at 03:39  

Is Najib and Umno really so scared of the carpetman Deepak,that they are so willing to fork out 30 million ringgit to silenced him off.Does the carpet salesman really has skeletons that are more powerful than C4,that will blow Najib and Umno to smithereens or sky high.

In school,the first things children learn is that what goes around,comes around.So can it be said that the spirits of the pretty Mongolian lass can rest in peace,when all this wayang kulit is finally soon over,in the coming days or weeks.

Anonymous,  30 December 2012 at 05:59  

What will happen when we have very corrupted people in power.They will abused the power bestowed upon them by the rakyat,by placing loyalist and cronies in positions in government to strenghtened themselves.

Then they raped whatever they have in front of them,since all the government and public institutions are manned by cronies of them.So they are therefore immuned from persecution by the law.That is the reason they are so bold as to robbed the country's coffers empty.

By being so greedy they have been transformed into animals of greed,called the very sick animals of money.Why,because they have accumulated so much money,yet they just couldn't have enough,must have more.These are the bastards/pariahs of society.

monsterball 30 December 2012 at 05:59  

Deepak has been used....made a sucker and this post is due to Deepak exposing crooks.
One crook plays out another...ended with one crook exposing...fearing nothing...for being cheated by the millions is no joke to Deepak.
He is ready to be arrested by MACC...for what he revealed...and we can see MACC dare not act without Najib's instructions.

mariamsu,  30 December 2012 at 07:44  

Dato,is this Raja Ropiah related to Raja Nong Chik.Maybe his sister or relatives,as the Raja in front is for them to have a free meal on the people.Dirty blood suckers these amigos.

Who is he?,  30 December 2012 at 07:49  

Did you guys know that LTAT's deputy chairman and MD, Lodin Wok Kamarudin is on the list of possible witnesses to be subpoenaed in the scorpene trial?


"Our list of possible witnesses are of course Razak and his wife Mazlinda, one Jasbir Singh, Lodin Wok Kamaruddin and Altantuya's father Setev Shaariibuu, who recently agreed to be our witness," she said.

"According to whistleblower website Wikileaks, Lodin heads LTAT and is a close buddy of Najib; he also allegedly sits on the board of Affin Bank Bhd, one of Perimekar's bankers."

"Perimekar Sdn Bhd at the time was wholly owned by KS Ombak Laut Sdn Bhd, which in turn controlled by Razak and his wife, Mazlinda Makhzan.

Perimekar is now owned by the military retirement fund LTAT (Malaysian Armed Forces Fund) and Boustead Holdings."

Y. Bhg. Tan Sri Dato’ Bin Wok Kamaruddin Lodin serves as the Chief Executive of Lembaga Tabung Angkatan Tentera (LTAT) since August 1982 and the Group Managing Director and Deputy Chairman at Boustead Holdings Berhad since July 1, 1991 and March 3, 2010 respectively. He served as the Managing Director of Affin Holdings Berhad from February 1991 to June 30, 2008. Y. Bhg. Tan Sri Dato’ Lodin has been the Deputy Chairman of Affin Holdings Berhad since July 1, 2008 and has been its Non Executive Director since June 2008. Prior to joining LTAT in 1982, he was with Perbadanan Kemajuan Bukit Fraser as its General Manager from 1973 to 1982. He has extensive experience in general management and fund management. Tan Sri Lodin also serves as the Chairman of Boustead Heavy Industries Corporation Berhad, Boustead Naval Shipyard Sdn Bhd, Boustead Petroleum Marketing Sdn Bhd, Boustead Petroleum Sdn Bhd, Boustead REIT Managers Sdn Bhd and 1Malaysia Development Berhad and also sits on the Boards of Affin Bank Berhad, Affin Islamic Bank Berhad, Affin Investment Bank Berhad, AXA AFFIN Life Insurance Berhad, UAC Berhad, Power Cables (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd, The University of Nottingham in Malaysia Sdn Bhd and Atlas Hall Sdn Bhd. Y. Bhg. Tan Sri Dato’ Lodin serves as a Member of the Minority Shareholder Watchdog Group. He graduated from the College of Business Administration, The University of Toledo, Toledo, Ohio, United States of America with a Bachelor of Business Administration and Master of Business Administration in 1972 and 1973 respectively. Administration Degree. He received to-date include the Chevalier De La Légion DHonneur from the French Government, the Malaysian Outstanding Entrepreneurship Award, the Degree of Laws honoris causa from the University of Nottingham, United Kingdom and the UiTM Alumnus of The Year 2010 Award.

Anonymous,  30 December 2012 at 09:12  

the last two sentences will make peter russell blue with envy...i tell you it was so hilarious my morning java was all over my wife's precious table cloth...all said, if scandals after scandals still don't wake us up to do the necessary to bury the curse of our beloved country (read umno) then we do not deserve the pleasures of holding and hugging our grand children..... for they will inherit a very bleak future..

OneMalaysian,  30 December 2012 at 09:58  

Dear Sakmongkol

I hope all Malaysians reading this sordid story of PUSPAHANAS will put aside their political affiliation and see the situation as it really is and make the correct observations as to what has happened. What do we see?

Powerful politicians with connections to powerful and ambitious ministers (in this case the former Defence Minister, now PM) can secure lucrative government contracts at massively inflated prices because these contracts are not subject to competitive tender but are “negotiated”. Included in the price is a large sum that is used to induce the minister concerned to agree to the deal in the guise of contributing to his political coffers. But this is a bribe pure and simple no matter to what purpose the money is used for. Included in the price is also a large sum that is used to bribe government officials who facilitate the deal, in this case senior generals in MINDEF. And a very large sum is reserved for the people like Raja Rokiah. All this is presented in a halal/kosher way to all concerned – MINDEF gets a new facility (never mind the price because it doesn’t come from their budget; it’s “free”); the minister gets to increase his war chest and pledges of support; the conniving local politico gets a big pay day for putting the deal together; his/her cronies (could have been Deepak had there been no falling out) gets a share as is normal by fronting the deal; and most importantly UMNO gets to stay in power so that these crooks can continue with their thieving ways.

What does the Rakyat get? The non-Malays and the non-UMNO types get incensed and betrayed by the leaders and the civil servants who instead of serving the nation honestly are getting into bed with crooks to steal the national wealth. As for the ordinary Malays, they get reassurance that it is important that UMNO remains strong (through whatever means) so that they can continue to “protect” the Malay interest. If they are poor compared to the non-Malays this is a small temporary price to pay because it is more important that UMNO continue to protect Islam, the Rulers and the “special position” of the Malays. Better be poor than to abandon UMNO because then things could be worse for the Malays. It is through this kind of talk and brainwashing that the corrupt UMNO leaders have managed to keep the Malays in tow.

PUSPAHANAS is but the tiniest part of a humongous iceberg. This status quo is untenable. Change must come. Only then will everyone will be better off no matter what his or her political affiliation, religion or race.

Anonymous,  30 December 2012 at 10:14  

Raja Ropiaah is of course the sister-in-law to a former MB of Perak, Ramli Ngah Talib. She's a real Raja, unlike some of the raja's in politics. She and Tan Sri Khalid are both committee members in Persatuan Alumni University Malaya, of which Rosmah is the patron.

sri hartamas

Anonymous,  30 December 2012 at 10:33  

Assallammuallaikum, I was having a teh-tarik session with my relative yesterday and I had lamented the fact the Malays are still stupid (don’t get me wrong, I am also a Malay – mixed that is). He disagreed strongly.
To him, there are 2 Malays; the UMNO Malays (those are the stupid ones) and the other Malays (they are the smart ones). Why is the UMNO Malay stupid or Dungu (sorry for the choice of words)? The UMNO Malays have very low self-confidence; when they get a project, they will “Ali-Baba” it. To them God is UMNO, without UMNO; they will just perish and die. They are always chanting that Malays are lagging behind; so they come up with all sorts of ways to grab whatever project with any back-handed tactics that they can get. And they will try to convert all the Malays to be like them so that they can rape and plunder the Nation forever.
We as Malaysians should eradicate these UMNO Malays by voting BN out in PRU13 In Sha Allah. 55 years living in the dark ages is a long time. Change and see the light.

Anonymous,  30 December 2012 at 10:44  

Salam Dato'

Saya baca 2 artikel yang dato' beranakkan tu, tapi fakta nya adalah salah, umpama nya kereta di daftar atas nama si A , dikawal dan di uruskan oleh si B, kereta di pandu oleh si C, si B nak tukar kereta baru, macam mana pula si C boleh jual kereta kepada si D. Macam mana si D tak selidek tentang kereta siapa empunya nya?. kesimpulan nya dato spin perkara ini, dan si D tidak usul periksa sebelum lengkapkan deal. Jangan salahkan si B. itu saja, maklumat tidak lengkap.

harap maklum.

Anonymous,  30 December 2012 at 11:09  

sdra anon 10:44
boleh tak sdra kongsikan maklumat yang tepay yang sdra ada? tak guna cakap teka teki. kalau sdra tahu kebenaran, kongsilah bersama rakyat.

perkara pokok sdra tak huraikan? seperti penulis tanya- mana nya puspahanas 100 juta tu? duit dah keluar. Raja Ropiaah dah sapu semua.

Justice be served,  30 December 2012 at 11:34  

Altantuya's ghost will haunt those responsible till they are held accountable for her death.No matter how long it takes.Then only will her spirits rest in peace.Those responsible beware,as she is coming for you.

Anonymous,  30 December 2012 at 11:43  

'lamented the fact the Malays are still stupid. He disagreed strongly'.

He is right...the majority of Malays perceived the present political environment, where they are in position of power, trust and influence, is to their advantage.

As they do not care what is happening to the ordinary people and country, why change when you have the advantage?

he he he,  30 December 2012 at 11:45  

Dato,is that Rose in the picture fat mama Rosy when she was young.A very pretty lady,I might say.

If fat mama had a good physical trainer,and work off all those excess fat,she will look twice as beautiful as the pretty girl in the picture.

But being a fat mama and a spoilt first lady,she is too sloppy and lazy to get up early to work it out.In fact she sleeps most of the day,due to depression of being the soon to be ex first lady.

the gaffe guy who knows,  30 December 2012 at 12:59  

Dato,with less than three months before the GE,and the first family's most trusted carpet supplier and confidante suddenly turned into a big rat.What is this man thinking.Or is he trying to lead the PR into a trap.PR cannot be complacent about this man for he cannot be trusted.

I would rather trust Najib's family cat then trust this rat.A person who can change allegiance at the flip of a coin,cannot be trusted even if he is one's BIL.Even if he really is divorced from the first family,political cronies cannot be trusted.Just look at Tunku Aziz.At the flip of a coin,from an angel he became the devil.

KTWong87,  30 December 2012 at 13:40  

Now I certainly hope all those involved in this sordid affair are not going to be BN candidates in the coming GE13.

Not even their immediate families - who can forget the Cow Condo not being aware of what her own husband and children were doing with regards NFC?

Why not standing in GE13?

BN Secretary General Tengku Adnan declared yesterday, "All Barisan Nasional candidates for the 13th general election have been found to be free of corruption and other crimes."

Screened by the police, MACC and Dept of Insolvency no less, "to ensure that they were "clean" and did not have any problems".

Now it would not do to have all these mighty institutions proven wrong and accused of incompetence or worse, would it?

And Muhyiddin just told the folks in Keningau yesterday that BN leaders wanted the "government" to be retained "for the sake of the people".

So surely the noble and illustrious Barisan Nasional, captained by the Great Leader, Kim Il Najib, would never ever allow any tainted candidates, eh? For the sake of the people, remember?

Anonymous,  30 December 2012 at 14:10  

Who owns the balance 20% of Astacanggih Sdn Bhd?

The answer may be found here
(Click on the attachments)

Anonymous,  30 December 2012 at 16:03  

I trust there are hundreds of similar abuses and corruption of national assets and funds. Many not exposed yet

That explained why the country is 2nd ranking in world in money laundering overseas, after China

In terms of population size (Malaysia vs China), then the country is top ranking in money laundering in the world, bravo, one achievement BN government shud be proud of

Too much wealth stolen or taken illegally that need to be taken and hidden overseas

I guess the nation is governed by thieves that protrayed as religious & god fearing people, but inside their heads, its all about enrichment themselves

The situation is worst than pirates at seas, at least they can be spotted easily and they have declared their positions to rob

Anonymous,  30 December 2012 at 16:11  

kesimpulannya semua orang kena tipu dengan Deepak, Najib, Rosmah, Zahid, Raja Ropiah..
Bukan susah sangat nak pekenakan rakyat Malaysia..
Terutamanya Bani Melayu..

monsterball 30 December 2012 at 16:26  

Concerning the video song "Rose" was Frankie Laine who stayed in Penang...fell in love with Rose Chan..sang "Rose Rose I love you"...made it a hit in billboard chart and promoted Penang... flooding with American and European tourists.
Check the lyrics..."Flower of Malaya. I cannot not stay"...and Frankie Laine was a very popular singer at that time..scoring hits after hits.

Cahaya Qalbu,  30 December 2012 at 17:57  

Deepak's accused and disclosures recently must have terrified Najib so much that he has got Boustead to enter into this deal, surely reflects it has some truth in his accusations

In most other countries, a public inquiry would have been set-up to scrutinize a prime minister or a president instructing its Defense minister to do such a deal.

Rakyat have already lost RM250mil to one Cow’s Minister and now are going to lose RM160 mil of pensioners' money to another minister.

Why does the Defense ministry buying back its own land??? It had never changed hands in the first place because it was halted when PR won the Selangor state in 2008. This land is in Selangor and Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim insisted on checking all the details and not allowing the transfer to go through. The land title would probably be changed by now if BN had won. Is this also one of the reasons Najib has vowed to recapture Selangor "at all costs"???

This is indeed a transaction deliberately wrapped to silence Deepak but it won’t settle smoothly because it still needs the land approval from the Selangor state’s government, and Deepak also said he is not going to shut up because he only got RM30 mil whereas Ropiaah received RM130 mil.

However, all the dotted lines are starting to be filled by the correct words now.

To those army personnel and it pensioners that are still dazed by UMNO rhetoric of Agama, Bangsa & Tanahair, they should start digging or ransacking many other skeletons still in the cupboard regarding MINDEF and exposed UMNO’s leaders duplicitous nature instead of doing the “Punggong Gangnam”.

Ariff Sabri 30 December 2012 at 18:16  


the song was first sung in mandarin by Miss Yao Lee- in 1940 titled mei gui mei qui zui jiao mei. frankie laine sang the english version in 1951. also mei qui mei qui wo ai ni.

Anonymous,  30 December 2012 at 19:05  

Letih dgn imelda msia. Lambat wei pru..

monsterball 30 December 2012 at 21:45  

Listen carefully!!
"It's make way or make way..for my Eastern Rose.
Flower of Malaya....I cannot not stay"
Justin Choo...of Penang...whose blog :Black N White" keep putting out Mandarin songs...and I said that again. He was shocked!! ...did researched and confirmed Frankie Laine was indeed singing....dedicating to Rose Chan.

the mean machine,  30 December 2012 at 23:00  

It is very sad to say that Malaysia,a so called democratic country,is one of the few countries left in this democratic world where its leaders are allowed to rob the public's banks in broad daylight.

Its leaders treat the country like their personal property.Run it like a police state,where rampant corruption starts from the top and ends at the very bottom,the office peons and janitors.And used the police force as their personal hired thugs.Silencing the opposing voices,sometimes letting them fly off highrise building's windows.

And even murderers and rapists well known to the public got off scott free and are in the gomen.And the people instead of skinning these skunks,let them nest and mass produced,stinking the whole country of filth.The people called the "rakyat" are getting raped 24/7 365 days a year.So when is the rakyat going to wake up?Tomorrow or in the next 55 years time.

Can the rakyat just demand that at least one federal minister,come out and declare to the world that he/she is still a virgin in corruption.Or are they all whores that you can find setting shop up one floor above kopitiams or lorongs.

bruno,  31 December 2012 at 08:56  


Long time no hear from you,monster,only read your comments only.

Just a short reply to your comments two articles past.First of all worshipping and comparing are two different words,world's apart.I did say Malaysia did have good leaders too,but along the way one of our leaders picked the wrong deputy,and when he took over all hell broke loose and the country has been going downhill since.I hope this answer your remark.

Anonymous,  31 December 2012 at 08:59  

Please remove pirates of putrajaya blog from you listing of pakatan friendly blogs on the left
They have declared themselves pro umno

Anonymous,  31 December 2012 at 09:14  

Teruk, teruk, teruk. Nak nafas pun susah.

Hebat betul kilang cetak wang UMNO taburkan kekayaan sesama sendiri.

Hidup UMNO!

Anonymous,  31 December 2012 at 11:05  


i seek permission to reproduce this article in Tranung Kite forum after translating it into bahasa malaysia.


monsterball 31 December 2012 at 13:35 totally ignored the massive corruptions....dirty race and religion politics..but never are entitled to your opinions and all are waiting for 13th GE to speak with their votes.

monsterball 31 December 2012 at 14:49  

Concerning religions....all have branches.
Take Buddhism as an example.
There are three kinds..
One kind..focus on Buddha's teachings only.
Another...Confucius teachings.
The third kind is being influenced by Hindu religion....praying to thousands of allahs.
Christians and Muslims are always fighting for one true God for 300 years and on going.
King Constantinople is the main culprit....a Muslim converted to Christian...and see what is happening in the Kingdom of Heaven...Israel & Palestine...non stop killing.
In Malaysia....UMNO B is using the Islamic religion to create hatreds and fool Muslims....masterminded by divert attentions..while he stole 200 billions with no fear...for he encouraged much so...his son is more wealthier than Robert Kuok.

Anonymous,  31 December 2012 at 15:38  

As for the saying Old habit Die Hard & Once a Thief always a thief ! Ubah for the betterment of Rakyats Malaysia

Anonymous,  3 January 2013 at 15:14  

In the early 80's, Malaysia bought some arms from US then, some war planes or something. PM then was Mahathir.

Mahathir only took some of the 70 units bought and the balance disappeared...rumoured to have rotted in some US unlikely story!

After some almost 30 years, our system should reveal these, by law somehow, as the bloody Brits do. They just did that on Meg thatcher, Mahathir's political sweetheart.

In any case,its so blurred info that it should all be aired - spring cleaning!

Our UMNO fellas are no better than the kera putih lintah UK or US, as speculations are ripe on historical US hold on Suharto and Indonesia. Does it take more than 2 and two appreciate how Mahathir wept at Suharto's funeral? Thus Utusan's dictated vitroil on Habibie's social call in KL.

Of course,its a conspiracy...$$$ comspiracy! You garu blakang I,I garu blakang you!

Now the same parasites will suck us dry if nothing changes in Msia is bad...$ has little room to grow and the mf GLC's and Corps are gonna bleed. When they do ...our country will feed them and we become muflis !!! So much for foresight, expertise, advanced education and visi .... smua basi !

So much for talent, corporate elites and entrepreneurs ! Bloody monkeys and babis!!!

Anonymous,  5 January 2013 at 23:00  

monsterball31 December 2012 14:49,

They just want the money and power but had to work with the bigger boys.

Religion is just a veil, a masquerade for corporatist capitalist adventure. Wasn't the 3rd World meant to supply raw materials for the post WWII reconstruction so the Japs and Brits could get back, and make WWII victors Rajah? Sure civil society meant liberalism but thats hardly apparent in official policies. The Saudis are the least religiously concerned nor will the West care even if the sympathetic local bullies are dictators like Suharto and Kutty and the Saudi House. So long as the bigger bullies are the boss!

Religion has nothing to do with it - when Muslims can worship across sex divide in the Kaaba they had to be separated in a burger joint in Mecca, suits well for extreme authoritarian fascist rule. What BN is scared shit is in the debate on rights and liberty espoused in Islamic fundamentals! JAKIM is just like the Saudi Phony Moral Police. If Hadi Awang is guilty of anything in his Amanat, he lacks finesse for the lingo! Well, largely due to limited overall experience and exposure.

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