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Sakmongkol ak 47

Wednesday 14 April 2010

Will MIC and Samy Vellu submit or quit?

Will Samy Vellu submit to the realities of on the ground politics? Or will he threaten to quit BN solidarity?
Tonight the old warhorse Samy Vellu will meet his MIC office bearers. They will discuss what they regard as UMNO's interference into MIC's prerogative of nominating a candidate of its choice. So, they defiantly say, UMNO mustn't intervene into its choice of candidate. Or else. Or else what?

  • Will Samy and Palani instruct the majority of MICs operations rooms be closed?

  • Will Samy ask his people to boycott this by election?

  • Will Samy threaten to bring MIC out of BN?
This isn't a seat owned by MIC. Palani lost in the 2008 elections despite having served for 18 years and despite 'working very hard' attending to the rakyat in his place. He must be lying because if he has done so, then the rakyat wouldn't have rejected him. He can't even hold to that seat during General elections where the resources of all parties are spread thin. He must have been a useless fellow.
Samy Vellu wants him to be the candidate. Palani is his deputy and Samy must show his unyielding solidarity with Palani.
The problem is, Hulu Selangor isn't Samy's fiefdom that must concede and yield to his demands. The candidate, even if he is from MIC must be winnable. Judging from numbers alone, any candidate from MIC, Palani or not Palani or Mugilan will lose.
How will Samy respond to the clear signals from the ground? That if he fields Palani, MIC and BN will lose. If he agrees fielding another MIC candidate, fresh faced and a novice, MIC and BN will lose. This isn't about finding a candidate with a hail fellow well met can-play-video-games or futsal candidate. We must find a winnable candidate. Samy must direct his rational self to this agenda.
To find a winnable candidate, UMNO and BN must find a Malay candidate. Forget about agreeing this is traditionally an MIC constituency. This isn't theirs. They can field a candidate in the past because it was done at the pleasure of UMNO- yes UMNO. We have better face this reality rather than wailing by the roadside after consuming copious amounts of Thali Merah.
Maybe tonight, Samy Velu will be playing his greatest poker game by giving an ultimatum that MIC will leave BN if his candidate is not accepted. UMNO/BN does not need to respond meekly to this threat. MIC with only 3 seats in Parliament is an insignificant extra. BN must listen to the ground and field a candidate which it thinks has the most chances of winning. Even if the candidate isn't at all from MIC, let it be. Let's throw out the niceties by recognizing that this is a by election that only lasts up to 2012. Why should there be a difference between chucking out Palani now and chucking him out at the 13th general elections? It makes no difference.
Samy will play his poker game. But he will also find, there will be not many co players in this game tonight.
Now, we move on to another story. What are we to make of MUkhriz's call for the people of Hulu Selangor to support BN as a show of support to his father Dr Mahathir? I like this slip of the tongue and relapse of the brain which clearly shows that MUkhriz is a non entity whose legitimacy and existence depends on keeping the memory of Mahathir alive. It confirms the general perception that Mukhriz is shallow. It would surprise many of his supporters to know that Mukhriz's name isn't even touted as a potential MB for Kedah.
Thamby, this is about winning a by election promoting and defending the leadership of DS Najib. This isn't about defending or promoting TDM anymore. If PKR campaigns on TDM- they are stupid but we don't compound that stupidity by acting like a political imbecile.
"It is good for us that PKR is fielding Zaid. It will be a pleasure to fight him here. Our chances of winning are better now since he has lots of baggage with him," said Jerlun MP Datuk Mukhriz Mahathir. Gua caya sama lu lah riz.

Well if he campaigns like he did at the Bukit Gantang by elections, the baggage that Zaid has will turn out to be within permissible limits.

You have your priorities wrong. The issue here is not which particular MIC person is chosen. The issue here isn't about assessing TDM. The issue here that can win HS for BN is the leadership of DS Najib. So, exploit the Najib factor.



Anonymous,  14 April 2010 at 21:31  


For Mukhriz to bring his father into the picture in HS is baffling to say the least! Perhaps its a case of Unbridled Mental Abberation.

We hope that we are not going hear Hisham asking the people to vote BN in HS because of his father!

Or....DS Najib asking people to vote for BN in HS because of HIS father!!

Welcome to the land of Nepotists!!

These nepotists have yet to realize that they have no skill, no game and no talent, but instead were put in charge of the country's most powerful positions because of who their daddy was.

Joe Black

Bukit Beruntung man,  14 April 2010 at 21:47  

Kudos.Good one. Taruk, jangan tak taruk. Keep on this momentum.
Bertanding nak menang bukan. Its not about givng a chance or giving charity. Umno has given out charity too much already.
Ayoyosamy, should know better than fielding Vel - his bag carrier. I don't want to say the other word.
If they want to quit BN, so what? MIC as far as I am concerned is a dead party already. Three MPs - 1 minister. Hello, isnt that enough?
Latest news 1 MIC man already contesting as Independent. This shows what? Not confident of Palanivel and Samy.
Palanivel - Dont try to bull the people of HS. We know you so well as an absentee MP. ENOUGH. Do you understand? or you are so thick in the head.

Donplaypuks® 14 April 2010 at 22:35  

It will be a cold day in hell before "I have all the bald facts under my wig" Velu quits on a matter of principle, self respect or even when the people show him the door! So, what's left is for MIC members to quit en bloc and form a new party to salvage their maruah.

As for Mukhriz's relapse of the brain, this is UMNO's "I have all the bald facts" Samy, sans the wig! But then to have a relapse of the brain, you must have one to begin with and carrying his dad's inflated one must be such a burden!

Boy, M'sian politics is such a circus! Lol!

We are all of 1 race, the Human race

Anonymous,  14 April 2010 at 22:44  

dato sak,

Kita semua tahu jawapan kepada soalan diatas. Samy akan conceed.


Anonymous,  14 April 2010 at 22:44  

Nak tutup operations room, nak keluar BN? Silakan.
Siapakah jadah suruh engkau kempen tanpa restu. Tapi Ayoyosamy pengecut, cakap aje. Mana lagi nak berlindung kalau tidak bawah ketiak Umno.
Tadi MIC bahagian HS buat PC buat ugutan tu.
Mana dia Semi-value and Vel-vel? Seperti biasalah takut tunjuk muka.
Baling batu sembunyi tangan.
Ditakdirkan Umno bertanding dan kalah (nauzubillah), dua talam dua muka ni akan tuduh sebab MIC tak bertanding.
Tapi kalau MIC bertanding dan kalah, tuduh Umno sabotajlah, tak tolonglah.
Memang mulut biawak. Satu dunia tau.

Umno member,  14 April 2010 at 22:58  

If Palanivel is the candidate, Hulu Selangor will create history by having the most number of spoilt votes. For sure.
This is to show their hatred of Palanivel.
This bloke should listen to the Beatles song I am A Loser.
or the Bee Gees song Can A Loser Ever Wins.

Anonymous,  14 April 2010 at 23:01  

nice to know that you admit the umno is nothing but an arrogant racist party,including you of course.i wonder why the malays keep saying that are not racist but the action and words say other wise.

you don't even respect your allies yet expect them to listen .but wait,that's KETUANAN MELAYU......

1Melayu,  14 April 2010 at 23:02  

Sak, you are the best candidate representing BN,by 12 noon on polling day you have already won the battle and the next day Najib will appoint you as Minister in PM's department incharge of.........?

Anonymous,  14 April 2010 at 23:12  

Palanivel is real shameless. He's got the cheek to say he's the sole MIC candidate for HS.
Then he asked the Selangor MIC to demand (yes they used that word) BN to pick him as candidate.
Apa dia ingat HS itu bapak dia punya kerusi.
Ada ke stamp this is MIC property. Others stay out of bounds.
Janglah anggap PM and DPM bodoh sangat nak pilih dari senarai satu orang. Apa Umno dan MCA tak layakkah kemuka calon?.Lupa ke MCA pernah memegang kerusi itu lama sebelum MIC.
Janganlah nak gertak-gertak. Awak nak menang atas undi orang Melayu tau.
Bangsa sendiri pun tak pasti nak mengundi kamu.
apa awak nak buat kalau Umno pulau pilihanraya kecil ini macam awak nak boycott kalau tak dapat kerusi.
Nak kerja untuk rakyat ke nak kerja untuk Semi-Value.

aawilliam 14 April 2010 at 23:23  

Good luck,Zaid Ibrahim!!!

Wenger J Khairy 15 April 2010 at 03:57  

Wow Dato',
Agree on all points. MIC serves nobody except themselves.

The observation on MUkhriz was classic. I was surprised when I read it, novice et. al

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 05:51  

Forget MIC and disconnect yourself from Hulu Selangor UMNO. Both have lost credibility for this coming by-election.
Either leave it to Zahid to do his bidding and you know he will win or no one else can win other than Mat Taib aka Mat Tyson and you bet sir!!!
As for Mukriz, Najib should have known him and the message is loud and clear and you know your PM very well, he will only regret when he is thrown out from his chair sooner or later.
For now, let us say good luck to Zahid. Gua caya lu lah Dato'!

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 08:34  

What makes you think that a Malay candidate will win the seat for BN?
What makes you think the Indians will back this Malay candidate?
You are wearing blinkers, Dato?
Your racism or rather your slant towards Ketuanan Melayu is evidence with each posting on HS by election.

Gedangsa mari,  15 April 2010 at 08:35  

OY Palanivel
We would have remembered you if you had worked hard. But you did not.
We are chucking you for good.
If your name appears in the ballot papers, we will tear it before putting in the box.

Rahman Taru,  15 April 2010 at 08:40  

MIC is so autocratic. Only one name was submitted as candidate.
And that too the useless palat Palanivel.
Never mind, Umno knows who is Mugali and Kamalanathan.
They are much better and are local boys.
Muhyiddin has said local boy, right.?
Palanivel, you lost already.

Ariff Sabri 15 April 2010 at 09:08  

anon at 08:34

but of course your retort is so cliche- racism and ketuanan Melayu.
selecting zaid who is i am malay too isnt racism or ketuanan Melayu. ah.. i know, only you and PKR have the monopoly in virtous values.
gua caya lu...

Melayu tulen,  15 April 2010 at 09:10  

MIC dah membentak-bentak nakkan Palanivel jadi calon.
Umno Selagor pun patut hantar petisyen bantah Palanivel.
Apa takut sangat ke dengan MIC?
Apa kita hendak mempergadaikan nasib orang HS semata-mata untuk gila kuasa Palanivel.
MIC dah mejadi kurang ajar dan patut diajar.
Orang dalam MICpun tak setuju dengan Palanivel tak berguna tu.
Apa kata Umno pulau saja pilihanraya kecil ini dan orang Melayu tak keluar mengudi?
Apa kata Umno Selangor berpakat dengan PKR meletakkan seorang calon bebas bertanding.
PKRpun tak bersetuju dengan Zaid yang juga pentingkan diri seperti Palanivel.
Nak suruh orang HS memilih dua calon tak ada integriti????

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 09:30  

Anon 8.34
Hey stupid. Answers to your first two paragraphs. Of course a Malay candidate will win.
So we can safely conclude Zaid can win by default.
An Indian candidate will only win with Malays voting them. Many Indians won't vote for the Indian candidate. Chinese, of course not.
Who cares if Indians did not support the candidate.
Listen. Why did Palanivel lost HS when the three Aduns from Umno won.
Who is wearing blinkers, tell us?
Dont bring that racism or ketuanan Melayu crap.
when its us, you go for that defence mechanism. But when you belittle us. you are not racist.
We have given way too much for you.
Just look at India and Sri Lanka. Are they as fair as Malaysia?
Look at China. The Chinese Muslims are being victimised?
Just be glad that Malays here are accomodating.
Dont let the small matter of the choice of Palanivel become a racial issue.
Palanivel and Vellu all this while are riding high on Malay votes.
Its the norm when yiou lose you shut up. But in Palanivel and Tok Samy's case, they want short-cut to redeem their loss.
Mana ada jalan.
You think Malays are stupid.
Tell us frankly did Ayoyo Samy and Palanivel help you Indians???

A. Kogilan,  15 April 2010 at 09:44  

Saya orang Indian banyak malu tengok itu Palanivel and Samy Vellu.
Dia orang tak dak malu ke?
Ini macam orang ka mau jaga itu India orang?
Tak hormat sama lain orang.
Sekarang baru saya tengok itu Palanivel punya muka.
Ini pagi saya pergi temple semayang mintak Lord Muruga kasi Mugilan itu kerusi.

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 09:52  

The Star today has a write up on Do or die fight for MIC and Palanivel.
Of course written by their cheer-leader reporter.
Our answer: You die MIC.
You go Makkal Sakti

Quantum Metal Consultant 15 April 2010 at 10:22  

Anak abah,anak mama - Mukhriz patut sudah lama belajar dari Najib, Hisham dan Kj sendiri bagaimana cara untk berada jauh dari 'bayang2' bapa sendiri kecuali kalau memang dah semulajadi tidak ada tulangbelakang.

Pilihanraya kecil ini terlalu jauh untuk dikaitkan dengan Tun, dan realitinya pendirian Tun lewat kebelakangan ini terhadap UMNO adalah seiring dengan PERKASA dan 'kontra' sekali dengan kenyataan Mukhriz.

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 10:22  

Setelah di campur, darab, bahagi, tolak, the best candidate to put into parliament is Zaid Ibrahim. All other BN candidates be it from UMNO, MCA, MIC, PPP etc will just be Pak Turut and will end up as rent-seekers under the BN's patronage system.

Lets us do the right thing by putting him into Parliament. He is a capable man much better than a couple of anak Tun that are currently in cabinet. This is the truth.

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 10:23  

Setelah di campur, darab, bahagi, tolak, the best candidate to put into parliament is Zaid Ibrahim. All other BN candidates be it from UMNO, MCA, MIC, PPP etc will just be Pak Turut and will end up as rent-seekers under the BN's patronage system.

Lets us do the right thing by putting him into Parliament. He is a capable man much better than a couple of anak Tun that are currently in cabinet. This is the truth.

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 11:16  

Palanivel is a swaggering, boastful empty suit. Smaill brain, big aim.
Just a candidate of I, ME, MYSELF and Semi-Value. Not MIC, BN or Hulu Langat folks choice.
Shut the door on him, please Muhyiddin.
Don't let the dog out. It bites

Suka semua,  15 April 2010 at 11:40  

Braim mana kau?
Hilang suara dah ke?
Bertindaklah bro. Kalau yapun Perkasa dah teruk dibelasah.

KKB Malay,  15 April 2010 at 11:51  

Fix Samy Vellu and Palanivel real good. Choose Datuk S. Subramaniam, their nemesis.
After all he is a local boy. Subra has suffered much under them. They fixed him up to make him lose the deputy presidency. To never be presiden of MIC. Just like they did to Pandian.
Let Subra gets his turn to fix them up. Instant karma.
There's nothing wrong with Kamalanthan and Mugilan. Both are locals, young and are fluent in Malay unlike Palanivel and Ayoyo.
Mugilan has worked hard for Vel all this while. Time to reward him. All this while working hard, but the palat gets the name.
I will vote for Mugilan because he looks a bit like Sivaji.
But the shitty two are now sabotaging Mugilan by propagating slanders on him.
Is that how MIC works?

Pengundi tua,  15 April 2010 at 11:56  

Umno nak Melayu, MIC nak India.
Pilih saja Ustaz Farid Ravi. Seorang saudara baru India yang pandai mengaji dan hafal Quran.
What's not to like about him.
Dia sudah tentu menang besar.
PASpun tentu mengundi dia.

A.Rahman Haron,  15 April 2010 at 12:22  

Nah kau Palanivel. Kau nak sangat kerusi ni, Ambik.
Tapi kau KALAH tau.
PKRpun dah kalah dengan meletak Zaid.
Kita mau Mat Taib bertanding sebagai calon bebas.
Mugkin dipecat atas tekanan Samy Vellu. Tapi tak apa, menang jadi MP.
Akhirnya juga jadi MP BN.
Mat Taib tak rugi apa-apa.
Its not do or die for him like it is for MIC yang dah mati tapi nak hidup semula.
Pernahkah anda dengan orang mati hidup semula?
Aneh MIC ni. Bebal betul.

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 13:13  

Salam SAK,

Hebat dan Terhebat.
Tembakan AK47, penumbuk dan tendangan TOMO kiri-kanan, atas-bawah, depan-belakang semua terkena. Kaki pun terkena. BUKA LAH MINDA WAHAI PENJENGOK, SAK DAH MENUNJUK JALAN. TAPI SATU PESAN UNTUK SAK JANGAN TERTELAN EKOR SENDIRI SUDAH LAH.



Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 14:08  

BN with MIC behaving this stupid way and Mukhriz saying inane things, how can PR loose. Someone said it is for BN to loose. So it is.

Greenbottle 15 April 2010 at 14:25  

one thing i'm absolutely certain from all this debate is is obvious but needs stating. UMNO (BN)IS NOW WEAK. gone were the days when you can act like bastards and put a log as a candidate and still win.

all this is very good for the country and i hope all umno leaders realize this and don't be such bastards in their ostentatious living and greed that make us hate you more.

i hope people like nazri aziz and his ilks will be forever gone from the face of malaysian politics come GE13.

HS is meaningless in the current political scenario. doesn't matter who wins but i like to see UMNO wears his pants and start acting like a party with spine.

the irony is umno is such a shitty party that it's willing to victimise their own race and kins (as in the case of kelantan oil royalty issue) but when it comes to other races they are willing to be sodomized and abused by even a small party which is now just a shadow of it's former self)...

La-di-la,  15 April 2010 at 15:44  

Got a text msg saying Kamalanathan is the BN choice. Pray that it is true.
Alhamdullilah. As long as not that palat I am happy.
You go Kamal.

Mak Temah,  15 April 2010 at 15:56  

Awak orang asyik cakap pasal Palanivel, Palanivel.
Macam mana muka anak Adam ni.
Kalau Samy Vilu Makcik kenailah muka dia.
Makcik dah tua dan lama duduk di Kola Kubu ni tapi tak taupun sapa Palanivel.
Kalau Kamalnathan (kita teriak Kamal) atau Mungali, Makcik kenai sebab selalu datang makan gerai makcik.
Macam mana nak undi, kalau tak kenai orangnya.
Makcik dulu undi Dr Zainal.
Tapi nak ubah selera pulaklah.
PKR letak Zaid. Kalau Dr Halili, Makcik dah tentu pangkah.
Orang Umno takde ke nak bertanding??
Makcik nak undi Umnolah kalau ada. Kalau tak terpaksale undi Kamal.

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 16:28  

hulu selangor will go to pr whoever from bn is being chosen

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 16:39  

Ho ho ho ho!!!, show gratitude to TDM??
Lagi ramai tak undi BN for sure.
We all had enough of Mahathir and the mamak style politics cheating the rakyat.

Raja Chulan

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 16:42  

Normally a Minister or an effective hard-working MP can stay for three-terms or longer.
But Palanivel?? What has he done to demand re-nomination to redeem his loss.
Let's cite his record:
As reporter: Fail
As MP: Everybody knows total failure
As deputy minister: Dismal, no success what so-ever. Didn't even know he was one until the present selection chaos.
Now as MP wanna-be: Haven't met him yet just like Michael Buble said in his song.
Aanae. ENOUGH. Dont be so greedy.
Luckily you have an MIC quota. If you are in Umno,you will be just an ordinary member.
So many umno office-bearers with good qualifications did not get to be a minister or MP or Adun.
Count you blessings.

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 17:12  

Hello Mukh A/L Mamak A/L Aya Kutty.
why r u opening ur mouth,, Go count all the shit ur father left behind for u. What r u doing in UMNO ( shit house) ur father the Mamak has no more confidence and support Prakocha,,, No need for ur 2 bits la,, go help ur pendatang father spend all the stolen money.
No need to remind ur fathers doings la,, who can forget that old fart 22 yrs Raping n stealing.
Bloddy greedy bum. We live in such a rich country,, no need for Tolls, no need for bloody taxes. All u pendatang's stole,, while the Chinese and Indian worked hard, Blood sweat and tears from the true Malaysians indian and chinese made this country,,SHAME ON U BLODDY RACIST.

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 20:47  

Gedangsa mari sudah cakap, ini Kg Sungai Selisek mari mahu cakap, mari kita semua undi Zahid itu Komala tarak hansem ma....
Semua orang sama Palanivel bolih tidur setengah UMNO punya orang pun bolih tidur!!! nanti hari undi semua main golf itu Lembah Beringin lagi bagus caddy pun ada sexy jugak!!!!
Sorry Tok, nak mengarut sikit sebab calun UMNO tak berjaya.

Anonymous,  15 April 2010 at 21:37  

'Ular'dari MIC boleh percaya ke ??

dah beratus ribu Malaysia Indian sudah kena dipatuk oleh Ular MIC...khususnya Ular Samy dalam kes Maika !!


Queit despair,  15 April 2010 at 22:33  


Besok you tulis kenapa Palanivel akan dapat jadi Senator dan Timbalan Menteri.
Apa istimewanya dia ni?
Apa jenis manusia Vellu dan Vel ni? Tak dapat jadi calon tekan Najib beri dia jadi Timbalan Menteri.
Dulu dah jadi Timbalan menteri, amat tak berhasil.
Datuk ada dengar ke orang kalah dan dah tiga penggal kerabat kerusi MP tup,tup dapat jadi menteri walaupun tewas.
Harap Najib janganlah jadi dayus Dan ikut saja perintah Vellu ni.
Dia dah tak siuman, takkan kita nak jadi macam dia.
Apa jadi dengan orang kita seperti KJ dan lain-lain lagi yang layak mnjadi menteri.
Si Kamalanathan (Kamal) yang berhempas pulas, orang lain pula jadi menteri.
Udang-undang apa dia pakai?? Undang-unmdang ular Marima Python.
Sebab itu orang cakap jumpa ular dengan ....., pukul ....dulu.

Quiet despair,  15 April 2010 at 22:41  

Mula-mula Palanivel jadi Senator.
Lepas itu jadi Timbalan Meteri. Lepas itu pilihanraya akan datang beri satu kerusi kepada dia.
Ini ultimatum Ayoyosamy beri kepada Najib kerana Palanivel direject.
Kalau tahu macam ini, Umno ambik saja kerusi tu.
Siapa kau Samy Vellu? Siapa kau Palanivel.? Arrgghh geramnya.
Sekali lagi Melayu diperbodohkan oleh ular-ular.

A boomerang returns,  16 April 2010 at 01:27  

Dato' Sir,

You were right to end by saying "exploit the Najib factor".

A strong comment in FMT(Free Malaysia Today)wrt The Straits Times Archives with "disappearing records in year 2006 and to be updated in April 2010"(more than half month of April has already elapsed)has PM Lee Hsien Loong replaced by his Deputy in meeting up with Najib!?

The remaining two weeks will tell whether The Straits Times and leadership of PM Lee and MM Lee conjure up to be a big hypocrisy instead!

That will eclipse the recent meeting of the most powerful man in the world with Najib!

The truth will open our eyes and set us free...........

Kudos to you, Sir and cheers.

A boomerang returns!

Anonymous,  16 April 2010 at 20:53  

ular-ular? hai cakaplah terus terang .....

tapi bila orang tuduh kaum melayu sebagai kaum yang suka hina kaum -kaum lain,adik-adik ,jangan marah ya.

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