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Wednesday, 18 March 2009

Poor UMNO Disciplinary Board.

That Ali Rustam was barred from contesting wasn't the news that some people were waiting. They wanted to hear that KJ is excluded from contesting. He is the son of a gun. He is the MAN.

Ali Rustam is big news to his supporters only. It is KJ these people want to have pinned down.

By the way, before Muhyiddin's people uncork their Dom Perignon to celebrate, please take note of the following:-

From the 15 people hauled up and punished are 4 serving wakil rakyats from Paya Besar , Kuantan, Pahang. These people were campaigning for Ali Rustam. The group is led by Dato Manan Ismail who is a dyed in the wool DS Najib's supporter. If we were to cut him into 18 pieces, the blood dripping on the ground will spell N-A-J-I-B. They coordinate their operations with JJ. So go figure, which candidate DS Najib actually prefers as his Deputy President?

As to KJ, I hear things like these at my blog and elsewhere.

KJ is guilty but allowed to contest. What is your opinion on that, Sir?

To UMNO Youth members reading this and who will be voting for their new president this coming Tuesday, reject KJ or forever hold your fucking piece! The way I see it only Mukhriz Mahathir has that semblance of a new echelon Malay leader who is free from all sorts of allegations. Have you heard Mukhriz being implicated in any scandals or bad rumours?

"KJ BECOMES UMNO YOUTH CHIEF DESPITE BEING GUILTY OF MONEY POLITICS"

And I also saw this:-

KJ is corrupt and he is contesting... He is contesting for the highest position in Pemuda UMNO. The BIG question here is... will UMNO and its Pemuda allow KJ 'the corrupt' to win this contest?

This will be a big blow to UMNO... Till the next UMNO election... you will be carrying on your shoulder KJ 'the corrupt' chief. Will you guys allow that?

Which all serve to fortify my conviction and belief that KJ will win this contest, God willing.

We have many other broadsides lamenting that no sterner action was taken against KJ.

Let me try to answer the most common accusation being bandied around. The UMNO D-Board is practicing double standard. KJ is the PM's son in law that is why he is being treated lightly.

My answer is if the board does indeed practice double standard, than the likeliest approach is to NOT call KJ at all or if called, exonerate him completely and absolutely. The fact that KJ is called before the board proves that the board does not practice double standard.

Indeed, the board can be said to operate beyond external influence when it exonerates Khir Toyo. The fact that KT got scot -free does not mean he does not engage in money politics. I am surprised he got away. The fact remains however, the board operates on facts available before them.

Further, the fact that only KJ and Ali Rustam were the big fish hauled up and punished goes to show that people are working overtime volunteering to submit the facts against them.

This argument that KJ is the son in law of the PM is overused and it is tired of being treated as the scapegoat. KJ was practically a loner immediately after Pak Lah announced his willingness to step down and hand over powers to DS Najib. The long knives were already out and if anyone cares to remember, people were asking, could KJ ever get sufficient nominations? He did and because he was able to, people quickly assumed that this must be the spill over for being the PM's son in law. Since then, the fact remains KJ has to work his butts out to secure nominations and win delegates over.

People seem to forget that once Pak Lah agreed to relinquish power all semblance of loyalty towards him became fluid commodity tradable in the UMNO market. The loyalty moves to the highest bidder and the new powers to be. That being the case, how is it possible for KJ to even get a small morsel of support from those who are migrating en masse towards Pekan?

My point is: don't insult our intelligence by using this old, tired and worn out factor of Pak Lah's residual influence. It has all but emigrated to Najibland.

We then have the jackpot of a question. Have anyone heard of Mukriz being tainted? Therefore Mukhriz must be the only one qualified to be the Ketua Pemuda.

Mukhriz is not tainted simply means his adversaries aren't working round the clock to do him in. He is not tainted simply because Anas the ATM machine is standing in for him. He is also not tainted because he does nothing.

I have been hearing this joke being replayed quite often recently. Why is the Malay brain more expensive that brains of others? Answer: because it is hardly used. It seems to apply aptly of Mukhriz.

Question: why is Mukhriz not tainted?

Answer: because he hardly does anything of significance.

If anyone were to be stranded in Mukhrizland- he would say, Mr Scotty- beam me up, no sign of life down here.

58 comments:

Sikhin Harun,  18 March 2009 at 14:01  

Everyone knows that LEMBAGA..has done many stupid things!!

I believe this involved a powerful individual,group who has close and strong connections with LEMBAGA....

Their decision has once again brought their 'justice system'into disrepute.It seems that their system will forever becoming a laughing stock..

Wenger J Khairy 18 March 2009 at 14:08  

I like the ending, if anyone were to be stranded in Mukrhizland he'll yell 'Scotty Beam Me Up.'
That is absolutelty true, DM started with an overwhelming majority of support but has espoused views which are very far apart from the UMNO mainstream everything from PPSMI to the negotiation with the opposition. I have honestly nothing against him personally, he seems to be a nice guy, but I don't want the next ketua pemuda to be a lembik sort of nice guy, we want guts, we glory we want kahoonas, we want THE MAN

DSN 18 March 2009 at 14:13  

For ur info bro,
the 4 from paya besar kena tindakan disiplin bukan sebab kempen untuk jawatan MAJLIS TERTINGGI. they kena sebab kempen during pemilihan BAHAGIAN.

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 14:18  

With all the fancy justification and no perception/no hearsay argument to support Khairy, is this the best you can do to support Khairy?????

WHat abt your talk for UMNO reformation? How great reformation with a corrupt Youth Leader?

His defense of Khairy is to smear Mukhriz by saying no one do him in and claim Anas the ATM Machine? That another wild accusation, isn;t it? Just like on Khairy?

Kah kah kah ... you crack me up, Saktongkol! Walking hypocrasy!

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 14:49  

anon 14:18.
inilah standard penyokong mukhriz- tahu maki wa hamun.
memang betul- kalau takde buat apa apa2, macam mana nak nilai mukriz sebagai pemimpin. duduk dalam bilik berkepit bawak ketiak bapak je. kah..kah..kah

Non-partisan,  18 March 2009 at 14:56  

1.In this last lap, your personal crusade on KJ seemed to be unabated by exploiting the Board's judgement. Never mind KJ had been meted out with a different punishment compared to that of Ali Rustam .The fact remains that KJ is found GUILTY . Is it morally right for him to continue to contest? The 13th GE will be an election for the young generation who, amongst things, are very critical on the integrity of the parties contesting. If UMNO wishes to suffer another debacle, vote KJ in.

3.This is yet another distasteful innuendo by you directed against MM. To me it will only make MM more resolute to win the contest. Your strategy and that of his foes simply do not work.

Wenger J Khairy 18 March 2009 at 15:01  

Here they go again, since the politcal assasins bullet did not take out KJ, now they want KJ to do the 'honorable' thing and commit political harakiri.

These guys crack me up - face it, the grand plan to win the KP race via a Teknikal Knock Out (TKO) failed or F.A.I.L.E.D (if you got grade 3 for SPM), and it is hilarious that out of spite, out of a sense of incredulity, you propose that KJ commit political suicide.
Hilarious.....

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 15:09  

KJ - belum apa-apa dah main duit. Macam ni ke yang nak jadi pemimpin? Apa yang dia dah buat dalam 5 tahun ni? Menyusahkan orang, menambahkan orang lain lebih menyampah pada UMNO.
Semoga Allah memberikan kekalahan kepada KJ, selamatkanlah Malaysia ini dari orang-orang sebegini.
putera

Navi 18 March 2009 at 15:11  

Dato',
If Khir Toyo is clean, why bring up his name at all during the press conference; add to that the MSM higlighted that KT had been cleared of any corruption (money politics). Why was he special? Why wasn't it mentioned that Azalina, Norza, M2Taib and the rest have also been cleared of all charges?
Or were they and I had missed that part of it in the MSMs.

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 15:11  

semoga Allah memenangkan KJ. kerana Malaysia memerlukan KJ.
Mukhriz boleh terus tunggang kuda dan naik porsche cayenne nya

Are You Gonna Go My Way,  18 March 2009 at 15:26  

Mukhriz is doing thing quietly. KJ is not doing anything but not doing it in a very loud and thunderous manner. KJ gives the impression of doing lot of things but actually nothing just like tong kosong. So for those who are low in EQ would be influenced easily by this fake façade. Luckily not everybody will be influenced by your blog or any of KJ supporters blog.

Your last statement “there is no sign of life” in Mukhrizland shows your willingness to stoop so low in a sarcastic manner in your support for your idol KJ.

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 15:35  

AYGGMY!
Nak datang bagi komen at Dato's blog memang senang.Why must you come and piggy-ride on his blog to support MM?? Why is it you can't have your own blog? Takut kena hentam by others? COWARD!

Dehra Dun,  18 March 2009 at 15:42  

There was this notion that the Management Committee had intervened to moderate the kind of action to be taken against Khairy Jamaluddin. The Disciplinary Board does not refer to the Management Committee. I shall explain.

Three issues

i) Personalities to he hauled up

ii) Question of when it happened..

iii) When do you convene the hearing?

When the Disciplinary Board chose the personalities to be summoned, did they refer to the Management Committee? Certainly not. It would be easier for the party president, if he indeed meddles in the workings of the Disciplinary Board to get them not to open a file on Khairy Jamaluddin. Manage the situation at source. But there was a file, and he was called up.

Was there a report at all against Mukhriz? He never did violate any of the offences? Not even a suspicion? If they were such a report, then, the Disciplinary Board made a judgment call, that being - no need to convene a hearing on Mukhriz. May be the case was not overwhelming. May be there was not enough evidence. Then the attendant question would be why chose Khir and Khairy Jamaluddin, but not Mukhriz?

To ensure justice all three should have been scrutinised. Was Mukhriz thoroughly investigated? Was this a case of a double standard?

Then you go to the nature of offences, that fall broadly within election rules. Of the many reports that landed on the desk of the Disciplinary Board, you decide on the offences you would investigate.

When do you make the decision, then? Why was someting that allegedly happened long before the divisional elections took place only came up days before Perhimpunan Agong? How much time did the investigators need to wrap up their work? Really this fall firmly within the realm of the Disciplinary Board. They must have justifiable reasons.

The point is as these judgment calls were being conceived, when and how did Khairy Jamaluddin secure an unfair advantage over Mukhriz and Khir Toyo?

Wenger J Khairy 18 March 2009 at 15:44  

Are You Gonna Go My Way says

"So for those who are low in EQ would be influenced easily by this fake façade."

I think thats extremely self contradictory, because the writer himself figured out how influential this blog actually is, and sensing that engaged in a classic childish 'defence mechanism' by attacking the blog as opposed to trying to rebut any of Dato's many points.

Panicky?

MXG,  18 March 2009 at 16:59  

Datuk, I don't want to be rude, but please tell us, what significant things that KJ has done, since his ascension in Malaysian politics? The guy involves in money politics and thats that. Why the heck are you trying so hard to "tegakkan benang yang basah"?

Dhahran Sea,  18 March 2009 at 17:17  

Tok Sak,
You have every right to defend & justify your blue-eyed kj even after UMNO cows come home... as they say "beauty" is in the eyes of the beholder... though I wonder sometimes why you are so darn stubborn even after looking at the facts and half-facts and quarter-facts on kj vs the others... I supposed the oxbridge-aura gets into your eyes/brain? As for me, IF the delegates still elect kj to KP, I rest my case and give up ALL hopes on UMNO winning anything in GE13... and Melayu akan "hilang" di dunia!

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 17:24  

Salam Sak,

I think there should not be a double standard in punishment for the same type of offence. KJ should be barred as well. Otherwise give him a clean slate like KT.

Talking about double standard, let's compare Isa Samad punishment with that of Ali. Both involved money but Isa lost everything and plus few yrs suspension. Ali just lost his chance to get at the Dep Pres post, that's all. Everything else are intact.

I presume that you are well read and well informed in local politics. However I would like to suggest that you read Khairy Chronicles written RPK when he was 'sober' then. Try rebutting the part involving fixing Isa Samad when KJ wanted to set his political footing in NS. I believe there are some truth in that writing.

Until then, I consider KJ as a pest in umno. I am not a member of any political party.

BRO JINGGO 18 March 2009 at 17:27  

Sebenarnya sebagai manusia yang dianugerahkan mata , telinga dan akal fikiran oleh Allah SWT boleh melihat , mendengar dan berfikir dengan waras lagi.

Permudahkan cerita, Adakah ahli UMNO tidak mengetahui apa yang sebenar berlaku dalam pemilihan UMNO ini jika mereka benar-benar mengikuti perkembangan UMNO.

Siapa tidak tahu rumah Datuk bekas Ketua Pemuda Bukit Bintang di Ukay Height jadi markas salah seorang calon Ketua Pemuda dan ayahnya seorang mantan Perdana Menteri serta seorang calon Timbalan Presiden UMNO.

Ramai orang tahu apakah kegiatan yang berlaku di sana. Mungkin rama yang tahu bahawa ahli UMNO semua tahu apa yang berlaku tetapi tidak memperdulikan apa yang berlaku kerana jika mereka tidak lakukan ada yang lain akan lakukan. namun hari ini jelas dan terang , tidak perlu kita selindung atau berdalih , dari 50 orang yang kita tanya , mereka merasakan bahawa keputusan Lembaga Disiplin dipengaruhi oleh orang lama yang sudah tidak lagi memerintah negara dan yang kini sudah keluar UMNO dan ini dilakukan demi memenangkan anak nya dan orang-orang mereka.

info-tepakbersulam

Geng Kamal 18 March 2009 at 17:38  

Adakah wajar tindakan Lembaga Disiplin Umno atau ada agenda disebalik keputusan ini?

Disebalik keputusan lembaga disiplin Umno pada hari ini semacam ada tangan tangan dibelakang lembaga disiplin untuk memilih siapa yang harus dikenakan tindakan,mungkin ini satu andaian atau satu kebenaran.

Untuk meraih kuasa ,apa sahaja akan dilakukan termasuklah membunuh perjuangan rakan rakan melalui pintu belakang.Inilah politik....Politik orang yang dayus...takut untuk menghadapi kenyataan berdepan sesama sebagai seorang pejuang.

Bagi saya ini adalah ujian ALLAH agar kita bermusahabah diri. Semoga ianya menjadi satu dorongan untuk terus berjuang.Bagi saya ,saya tidak menuding jari siapa dibelakang semua keputusan ini,tapi sebagaimana yang kita tahu ,sebelum keputusan ini keluar sudah ada suara suara yang mahu tindakan diambil pada kumpulan yang bukan kumpulan mereka.

Apakah ini perjuangan Umno?Membunuh sesama rakan.Inilah kuasa.Apakah ada agenda untuk menghalang seseorang calon yang sudah mendapat kepercayaan perwakilan.Semoga pemimpin yang dayus akan lenyap dari terus memimpin Umno.Kita renung renungkan la apa agenda disebalik semua keputusan lembaga disiplin tadi.


LU PIKIR LA SENDIRI

Senapang Patah 18 March 2009 at 17:46  

Nak pilih Mukhriz jadi ketua pemuda?

Fikirkanlah dia tu siapa
Ayahnya jadi presiden UMNO paling lama Tapi tak puas dan belum lagi bersara

Kritik sini kritik sana
Menyesal pula menyerahkan kuasa
Tinggalkan UMNO dengan sengaja
Macam-macam diumpat dan dikata
Penggantinya dicerca dan diseksa
Dijejeh dengan macam-macam cara
Mengheret anaknya diajar durhaka
Celupar sama melawan ketua
Sedangkan dialah yang lupa jasa
Lupa akan pada segala-gala
Anaknya berlagak cerdik berpura-pura

Suruh orang lain kempen untuk dia
Sedangkan dia tidak pernah pun berjasa Berpolitik pun baru berjagung muda Pasang jangut kononnya dah dewasa
Menempel sebelah ketiak ayahnda
Tumpang tui nama orang tua
Yang taringnya dah kian hilang bisa
Terlalu banyak sangat berbicara
Hingga terserlah dialah Melayu yang lupa

Satu jenama yang dia sendiri cipta
Sedang lupa dia pun pelupa
Dalam hati menanggung derita
Dalam jiwa penuh cedera

Semua orang tahu Mukhriz ni siapa dia Selain dia anak yang manja
Lembut lidahnya bila berkata-kata
Manis wajahnya macam gula
Raut wajah pejuang langsung tiada
Sibuk menjaja jasa yang belum tercipta


Pilihlah orang ini dan pilihlah dia
Kalau nak tengok apa jadi pada pemuda Kalau tak terbenam, tengelam dipuja Kerana budi ringgitnya dijadikan jasa
Terkulailah pemuda di lautan gelora
Lembiklah kepak UMNO parti tertua
Menyongsang arus tunggak melanda
Terkapai sepi tidak bermaya
Lemah longlai menongkah bala
Tunduk haus mengempis dada

eddy 18 March 2009 at 17:48  

Dato', KJ personifies everything that is wrong with UMNO now, the very fact that he is found guilty of money politics but not punished means that UMNO condones money politics, just depend on whose side you are on.

If KJ gets elected and Mat Taib or Ali Rustam(if his appeal is successful) ever gets elected in the coming UMNO election, there is ONLY one word for UMNO and it is spelled D O O M.

SB,  18 March 2009 at 18:00  

Mukhriz memberi RM15 ribu kepada 5 orang anggota jenteranya di Johor diketuai oleh KP Simpang Renggam Oya. Perwakilan Melaka pula ditampar RM200 seorang. Di Kelantan, pemberian wang dikendalikan oleh bekas NKP Kuala Pilah Nafiz yang tinggal di Kota Bharu untuk tempoh berkempen ini, dan orang luar ini dibantu perwakilan Rantau Panjang Wan Nasir dan Sazmi Miah KP Machang yang tidak diterima di Bahagiannya sendiri.

Yang pasti kepala Agong akan mula kerap bertukar tangan di antara ejen Mukhriz dan perwakilan. Selain cara biasa, modus operandi pelik Mukhriz akan bertanya perwakilan apa sebarang 'masalah kewangan' dan terus mengarahkan pegawai baruanya Anas untuk memasukkan wang terus ke akaun bank perwakilan.

Hipokrasi Mukhriz yang kononnya tak mahu membayar secawan kopi perwakilan pun kerana ianya merupakan rasuah. Dengan lantang dan tidak menghormati sumbangan dan pengorbanan perwakilan, Mukhriz pernah berkata mengenai kaedah menggunakan dana politik untuk menghargai perwakilan, "Rakyat sukar untuk menerima pemimpin yang terpilih secaraamalan terkeji tersebut". Terkeji? Jadi perwakilan yang menerima wang pun terkejilah? Tapi yang paling penting, mengapa setelah menggambarkan amalan ini sebagai 'terkeji' Mukhriz pula kini yang mahu menggunakan wang sebanyak-banyaknya? Hai, sudah lah lantang tak bertempat, hipokrit juga!

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 18:05  

Saya menyokong penuh Mukhriz untuk jawatan ketua setiausaha kementerian kebajikan...supaya beliau boleh di didik dalam menangani kepayahan orang kampung sebelum beliau boleh bermimpi untuk menjadi Ketua Pemuda.

Sham Rembau 18 March 2009 at 18:10  

Apa yang pelik, Dr. Mahathir yang bukan lagi ahli parti, berkempen untuk membantu anaknya Datuk Mukhriz bertanding kerusi Ketua Pergerakan Pemuda. Belum ada bukti yang Dr. Mahathir bertunggu tangga berkempen, tetapi khabarnya dia sibuk menjalankan tugas berkempen bagi menjamin anaknya menang.

Janganlah! Cukuplah. Umno sudah begitu teruk ditinggalkan selepas 22 tahun dia menjadi Presiden. Bukan main ramai pemimpin Umno yang dicantasnya ketika dia mahu mengekalkan kedudukannya. Dia akan berpaut dengan sesiapa sahaja kalau dia mahu terus kuat. Tun Ghafar Baba (Allahyarham) antara orang yang 'dicapai dan digayutnya' untuk dia berdepan dengan serangan Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah dan Tun Musa Hitam (Datuk ketika itu).

Pemuda Umno, mungkin terfikir kehebatan Dr. Mahathir selama 22 tahun menjadi Perdana Menteri, kini diwarisi anaknya Mukhriz. Tetapi, mereka yang tahu meniliai, mustahil boleh meneirma Mukhriz yang tidak tahu apa mengenai Pemuda untuk memimpin sayap parti ini.

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 18:24  

Tidak keterlaluan jika dikatakan, tujuan Mukhriz menyertai pertandingan ini hanya kerana dia mahu menjadi pembela bapanya yang sudah keluar dari Umno. Mukhriz siang dan malam berucap untuk membertahu orang ramai, kekalahan BN di Kedah kerana Umno dan BN tidak tahu menghargai Dr. Mahathir.

Are You Gonna Go My Way,  18 March 2009 at 18:29  

wow, so very predictable the setiakawan group. I bullet shot at kj, 20 bullets shot to MM...but still very predictable with the same old script...

Are You Gonna Go My Way,  18 March 2009 at 18:36  

go go go... KJ

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 18:40  

Ingat, suatu ketika Jerlun pernah terlepas ke tangan pembangkang. Nasib baiklah, dalam pilihan raya 2004, Ketua Umno Bahagian Jerlun, Datuk Abdul Rahman Ariffin berjaya merampas kembali kerusi itu dari tangan Pas.

Mari kita fikir fikirkaan...

Fabulous Boyz 18 March 2009 at 18:53  
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Fabulous Boyz 18 March 2009 at 18:56  

Tidak mustahil Lembaga Disiplin ditekan oleh orang tertentu.

Dan kita sudah boleh mengagak siapakah calon Naib Presiden dan Calon Ketua Pemuda yang akan diambil tindakan. Mereka ini tidak mempunyai "Godfather" untuk melindunginya.

Pejuang Bangsa 18 March 2009 at 19:21  

kita yakin ada perancang disebalik tabir keputusan Lembaga Disiplin

Kepada semua perwakilan ,buktikan anda semua perwakilan yang bijak dan tidak mengikut telunjuk sesiapa .sudah terang dan jelas terdapat Pengarah untuk skrip pemilihan UMNO ini dan tujuan beliau untuk meletakkan calon pilihannya menang ..

pada PAU 2009 ,kita tolak pemimpin yang mempunyai Godfather yang besar yang ingin menghancurkan UMNO ini

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 19:28  

SB,

Kalau boleh, sila keluarkan lagi maalumat saperti RM15,000 kapada 5 orang di Johor, RM200 kapada perwakilan di Melaka itu. Kita perlu hebohkan supaya orang2 itu sedar ada orang yang tahu, moga2 malu sedikit di masa akan datang.

Are You Gonna ...,

I don't understand you. At 15:26 criticising KJ at a pro-KJ blog, at 15:35 was told a coward not putting up your own blog by an Anon, at 18:36 cheering KJ to go, go, go. But no need to explain lah, I have quite enough of you.

Dhahran Sea,  18 March 2009 at 19:33  

Tok Sak,
Intisari posting from blog "OUTSYED THE BOX" berkenaan isu ini: Kalau ali rustam & kj yang didapati bersalah mahu juga bertanding, maka itu bermakna mereka ini tak ada "kemaluan" (to use Karpal Singh's terminology). Dan kalau para perwakilan memileh jugak mereka ini maka by extrapolation, perwakilan juga tak ada "kemaluan" kerana memileh mereka yang tak ada "kemaluan" untuk jadi pemimpin... dan by default, silap2 nanti UMNO pun tak ada "kemaluan" kerana bagi muka pada pemimpin2 semacam ini. The BIG QUESTION is: Adakah parti yang tak ada "kemaluan" berkemungkinan menang dalam PRU13 nanti?!

ROSHATIKA 18 March 2009 at 19:45  

Salam Dato'

Bukankah sebelum ini `bekas presiden' pernah berkata supaya semua orang Pak Lah di halau keluar UMNO?

Hari ini nampaknya agenda tersebut telah bermula.

Terima kasih

Are You Gonna Go My Way (the original one),  18 March 2009 at 20:28  

Anon at18 March 2009 19:28,

Nice try…..you masqueraded as me at 18:36….but I’m flattered. If that will make you guys sleep better at night, by all means go ahead…write nice things about KJ using my nick.

I can vouch for my self that whoever wins the KP this coming election be it KJ, MM or KT, I will support him as long as he can fulfill our aspiration as normal people in UMNO. However at this moment I support MM.

Can you vouch the same? Or will you keep on politicking until UMNO no longer exist.

lordapes 18 March 2009 at 21:43  

Salam everybody.

I am not surprised that you guys bicker over your preferred candidate. Let's not make a bigger fuss than it should've been. KJ, KT and MM, whoever wins, must be supported 110%. I really hate it when people turn their backs on candidates they don't prefer, especially when all of them are fighting the same cause.

Buck up. Pray your candidate wins. Support the one who do eventually. Accusing everybody else of wrongdoing would just break the party further.

Peace.

Wenger J Khairy 18 March 2009 at 21:45  

And at this moment, we support KJ. I do appreciate the decorum shown in your last comment (not sure who is the real Are You Gonna My Way).

As to whether or not one could support lets say KT or MM as chief, one would have to seriously look at the way he leads the party. Didn't TDM tmake a public show of antagonism against a sitting President, carrying on his campaign for so many years and doing untold harm to the party?

So I am confused here.

Toks,  18 March 2009 at 21:48  

Salams semua; bawa bertenang.Alamak, ramai nya penyokong Dato Sak di sini. Tahniah kamu. Kau tak kenal aku. Senior Dato Sak di sekolah..Hebat Mu!!

Senyum saja Dato Sak melihat gelagat kita-kita ni. Silap-silap, dah ready episod seterusnya. Kisah apa pulak Dato Sak?

Toks tengok disebabkan salah laku pemilihan ini berleluasa, seperti kata Tun Mahathir, maka, hanyalah mereka yang paling tiada patron yang akan kena.

Khairy Jamaluddin yang dikatakan "over-protected" itu sebenarnya tidak ada siapa yang bela dia. Lantas kena tindakan. Ha, Mukhriz menurut SB, pun ligat nampaknya kasi wang sana sini. Bila Mukhriz yang tabur wang tak kena, itu bermakna beliaulah yang paling kuat diprotect. Malaysia's Most Wicked Son. Ha!

Samada dia tidak boleh disentuh atau Khairy ni dianiaya. Dari awal lagi kena hentam secukup rasa. Janganlah nak keluar cerita Si Penipu Hantu Raya RPK yang disiarkan Khairy Chronicles. Kalau Khairy boleh kenakan Isa Samad, kenapa diri sendiri pun dia tak boleh bela.

Dengan ini maka hanya satu keputusan saja yang adil - Khairy Jamaluddin menang Ketua Pemuda. Ini satu pembelaan pada orang yang Teraniaya.

MANTRA 18 March 2009 at 22:46  

There you go Dato'...

UMNO and UMNO start to disagree... more so a great presentation to the rakyat. Bravo!

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 22:56  

ah mantra, buat apa you nak sibuk dengan budak budak ni.
masa you hentam kj all this while you tak fikir pun soal UMNO sesama UMNO berhentaman. ke, hanya bila Mukhriz tidak dapat di pertahankan, maka tiba tiba soal perpaduan mahu di pentingkan?
go play with yourself mantra

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 22:59  

are you gona go my way.

ye lah, kita nak tengok kamu buka blog sendiri dan mengenengahkan pandangan kamu supaya boleh di perdebatkan. we have never seen you offer any views other than ridiculing the analysis of the owner of this blog or when you can no longer offer cogent reasons, you will trivialize other people's ideas as typical... what's so typical? yang typical ialah exposing your own kedangkalan. you mahu skong MM sila buat blog kamu sendiri dan senaraikan kelebihan Mukhriz. baru dalam kita semua berada dalam gelanggang.

Anonymous,  18 March 2009 at 23:52  

Agaknya dah lama di luar gelanggang kuasa, seorang Dato' boleh meroyan kan....You must have owed something to Kj or Tun M must have done something to you....poor thing!

BRO JINGGO 19 March 2009 at 00:22  

Beri laluan sikit pada MANTRA...

Dia dah lama cuti sekarang ni jer baru timbul balik. MANTRA betul ker ejen u x bayar duit penulisan u? I dgr khabar agin jer dr seorang kawan?

Itu lah seperti apa yang I katakan pada u tempohari perjuangan perlu keiklasan bukan mengharapkan balasan.

Dari pada u berbakti pada MM ada baik u join setiakawan, tapi hati musti mau bersih la...

Salam Setiakawan


BJ

Pak Belalang,  19 March 2009 at 00:51  

Kalau Khairy menang ketua pemuda, Anwar adalah orang yang pertama akan 'hentak kepala' kerana Anwar tahu kewibawaan Khairy selain mengetahui keberanian anak muda ini yang bukan mudah ditentang.


Kalau Mukhriz, Anwar boleh otek-otek saja. Begitu juga kumpulan-kumpulan yang menyokong pembangkang dan parti-parti pembangkang sendiri terutama DAP tidak suka Khairy menang. Bab ini, pemuda kena buka mata siapa patut mereka sokong untuk mengetuai pergerakan mereka.

Are You Gonna Go My Way Pirates,  19 March 2009 at 01:00  

Konspirasi Godfather

Visi cantas anak benih Pak Lah

Bermula dengan Norza
kemudian Azalina
Seterusnya Ali Rustam dan KJ

Awas ada lagi nama-nama yang tidak disebut ada dalam senarai buku kecil godfather @ Big Boss

Senapang Patah 19 March 2009 at 01:21  

SALAM DATO

NAK TUMPANG GELAK JAP BOLEH TAK.

HAK HAK HAK HAK HAK HAHAK

NAK TAHU KENAPA? SAJA JER AKU G MELAWAT BLOG MANTRA YG PENUH DGN SARANG LABAH2 TU

BACA NI POSTING PALING HANCYIIIIK
AKU PERNAH BACA, BARU BAGI SATU KOMEN DAH KECOH SATU DUNIA
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Wednesday, March 18, 2009
AND THE WAR AMONG THEM BEGINS... BRAVO UMNO!!!

Lets see what happens to UMNO theatre as at today. The true drama among them...

You can find this in A Voice blog;


Wenger J Khairy said...
YAB Voicey,

Heard this tune on Hitz soon after the news was released...

Another plan bites the dust.
jeng jeng jeng,
Another plan bites the dust.
jeng jeng jeng,
Another plan bites the dust.


Pemuda Tak Sokong Khairy and Khir said...
I agree with u 100 % if that Khairy guy is the new Umno Youth Leader it will a major blow for the Umno wing... I heard many of Umno Youth will resign as members of Umno if the so called and arrogant KJ is the leader... I and 30 Umno Youths from my cawangan will join in hand and resign from Umno but not and never join the Pakatan Rakyat... But never will we the Umno Youth support Khairy nor Khir its Mukhriz's time. We give 100 % support to Mukhriz and hope and berdoa that these 2 will not prevail..... Its for the own good of Umno.....

bERANIKAN hATI said...
Ali Rustam dan penyokong nak keluar UMNO jika tindakan tegas dikenakan kepada Ali Rustam? Lebih baik mereka keluar demi reform UMNO. Buangkan segala barah dan pejung dalam UMNO. Kita masih ada beribu Ali Rustam.

Dato' Ariff's blog :


Anonymous said...
With all the fancy justification and no perception/no hearsay argument to support Khairy, is this the best you can do to support Khairy?????

WHat abt your talk for UMNO reformation? How great reformation with a corrupt Youth Leader?

His defense of Khairy is to smear Mukhriz by saying no one do him in and claim Anas the ATM Machine? That another wild accusation, isn;t it? Just like on Khairy?
Wenger J Khairy said...
Are You Gonna Go My Way says

"So for those who are low in EQ would be influenced easily by this fake façade."

I think thats extremely self contradictory, because the writer himself figured out how influential this blog actually is, and sensing that engaged in a classic childish 'defence mechanism' by attacking the blog as opposed to trying to rebut any of Dato's many points.

Panicky?

Anonymous said...
Salam Sak,

I think there should not be a double standard in punishment for the same type of offence. KJ should be barred as well. Otherwise give him a clean slate like KT.

Talking about double standard, let's compare Isa Samad punishment with that of Ali. Both involved money but Isa lost everything and plus few yrs suspension. Ali just lost his chance to get at the Dep Pres post, that's all. Everything else are intact.

I presume that you are well read and well informed in local politics. However I would like to suggest that you read Khairy Chronicles written RPK when he was 'sober' then. Try rebutting the part involving fixing Isa Samad when KJ wanted to set his political footing in NS. I believe there are some truth in that writing.

Until then, I consider KJ as a pest in umno. I am not a member of any political party.



Are You Gonna Go My Way (the original one) said...
Anon at18 March 2009 19:28,

Nice try…..you masqueraded as me at 18:36….but I’m flattered. If that will make you guys sleep better at night, by all means go ahead…write nice things about KJ using my nick.

I can vouch for my self that whoever wins the KP this coming election be it KJ, MM or KT, I will support him as long as he can fulfill our aspiration as normal people in UMNO. However at this moment I support MM.

Can you vouch the same? Or will you keep on politicking until UMNO no longer exist.

FINALLY...
MANTRA said...
There you go Dato'...

UMNO and UMNO start to disagree... more so a great presentation to the rakyat. Bravo!
__________________________________


KISAH SI MANTRA NI BJ, YANG DIA DAN PIGGY LAMA MENGHILANG TU SEBENARNYA MERAKA BERDUA NI DAH KENA LELONG 10% OLEH SAUDAGAR YG BERNAMA AL MANGKUNG MEROYAN (MM)

SIMENTRA BERJAYA MELARIKAN DIRI, TINGGAL PIGGY MASIH MENJADI KADAM DIRUMAH DRM. TUGAS HARIANNYA MENCUCI TANDAS SETIAP HARI SBLM SARAPAN PAGI.

Anonymous,  19 March 2009 at 01:57  

SALAM DATO

MERIAH BLOG DATO HARI, SYABAS KEPADA SETIAKAWAN TEAM YANG SENTIASA MEMBERI SOKONGAN KEPADA YB KJ

Anonymous,  19 March 2009 at 02:01  

put it this way la dato..

kj is a goner because he is corrupt and if umno vote him in umno is a goner because umno is a corrupt party.

its as simple as that however you twist and turn your argument.

umno observer

BRO JINGGO 19 March 2009 at 02:40  

Salam Dato dan sahabat setiakawan

Hidup ini adalah perjuangan… Syukur Alhamdulillah walaupun pelbagai cabaran, dugaan dan rintangan yang harus YB KJ tempuhi, namun perjuangannya diberkati Allah, Allah memimpin YB KJ untuk memimpin dengan kepimpinan yang diredhai. Justeru, marilah kita sama-sama memberi sokongan yang padu kepada YB KJ menerusi laman web YB KJ http://www.rembau.net.my/

Salam setiakawan

Salam Perjuangan

BJ

Anonymous,  19 March 2009 at 09:10  

Kali ini kedai kopi cyber kita buka sampai hampir pukul 3 pagi. Bagus lah, kita berbincang, kita masyarakat bebas.

Saya ha nya mahu yang tidak korap jadi pemimpin kita. Negara2 banyak lingkup, masakan masyarakat2 pupus dalam sejarah akibat rasuah. Pada hal kita mahu hidup 1,000 tahun lagi. Saya tak tahu macam mana boleh dapat pemimpin yang tidak korap dan ada wibawa jujur/ integriti. Di negeri China rasuah bawa hukum mati tapi masih ada satu menteri buat rasuah dan telah di hukum mati tak lama dahulu.

Kalau idealism itu tak boleh timbul dan tak mungkin boleh dapat yang 100% tak korap, mungkin yang tak ketara sangat korap nya. Tapi so'al ketara atau tidak ini jadi masaelah. Kita tak tahu butir2 lanjut yang di guna Lembaga Disiplin membuat keputusan.

Sudah korap sangat parti hingga tak tahu sabenar nya siapa yang membuat tuduhan, kumpulan mana, tujuan apa, apa bukti2 di gunakan dan sebagai nya. 900 tuduhan atau komplen, berapa kerat sahaja yang di kenakan tindakan disiplin.

Kawan2 sekelian, boleh kah kita hidup 1,000 tahun lagi? Ingat, masyarakat Melayu Sri Vijaya, rumpun Melayu Majapahit, Kesultanan Melayu Melaka sudah lenyap, lebur. Saya percaya banyak di sebabkan rasuah - dalam berbagai bentuk yang berlainan di dahulu kala.

Sekarang saya jarang lihat komen2 anti-rasuah yang boleh di katakan dari akar umbi. Apa kah sebab banyak komplen Lembaga D tidak ambil tindakan? Apa kah sebab akar umbi pun sudah bergelumuran dengan politik wang?

Tolong lah kawan2. Mari lah kita berusaha supaya boleh hidup 1,000 tahun lagi. Tolong lah hapuskan rasuah.

Anonymous,  19 March 2009 at 10:06  

saya berasa sedih untuk KJ..sedih kerana sepanjang pembabitannya dalam politik..kebanyakkan startegi yg diatur makan tuan..

menggunakan kawan-kawannya dalam nst dengan menggelar tun m sebagai dubuk tua jadi strategi makan tuan..mahathir bukan dubuk atau singa sarkis pencen.orang nama mahathir ini ditetak 1000 kali pun belum tentu akan mati.

membantu anwar ibrahim dengan menyerahkan pasportnya selepas dibebaskan juga jadi strategi makan tuan.anwar kini bermaharaja lela, menubuhkan kerajaan di 5 negeri.

menggunakan media mengutuk khir toyo sepanjang pemerintahannya di selangor juga strategi makan tuan..bukan hanya khir toyo yang tumbang..tetapi seluruh selangor..

begitu juga dengan perancangannya untuk memastikan khir toyo tidak dibenarkan bertanding selaku kp...jadi strategi makan tuan...

memilih manusia bernama kj pula menandakan pemuda umno memilih strategi makan diri...

Anonymous,  19 March 2009 at 13:46  

Sdr/Sdri 09:10,

Melayu boleh hidup 1,000 tahun lagi. Kalau tak ada orang beri negeri saperti Spura kapada kaum pendatang, lepaskan Batu Putih, benarkan kapal terbang tentera asing guna lapangan udara Johor dan sebagai nya.

Parti memerintah boleh tukar, kemudian tukar lagi, tapi jangan cebiskan negara ini lagi. Saya akan sumpahkan siapa buat demikian.

Dari zaman Hang Tuah sampai sekarang sudah 600 tahun. Salepas Melaka, Kesultanan Melayu telah berterusan di Johor, Pahang, dll. Kita telah jadi Persekutuan Tanah Melayu, Malay-a, dan sekarang Malay-sia. Dari sekarang pun kita boleh hidup 1,000 tahun lagi. Tapi UMNO mesti pilih orang yang bagus. Kita tengok Perhimpunan tak lama lagi.

Saya setuju Lembaga Displin mesti ambil tindakan lebih dan berterusan.

Anonymous,  19 March 2009 at 17:13  

Anon 9:10

Pertama.... Singapura bukan you punya. Kalau Singapura pilih tidak masuk Malaysia , mereka akan merdeka juga saperti Brunei.

Sejak mana diMalaysia you punya sahaja. Ia adalah kepunyaan RAKYAT MALAYSIA TIDAK KIRA KAUM.

UMNO? Tiga tahun lagi tak kira siapa ambil kuasa.

Anonymous,  19 March 2009 at 17:44  

senapang patah,

i read yr post here http://senapang-patah.blogspot.com/2009/03/continuity-of-malay-youth-leadership.html

man..! what a sorry ass, desperate, apologetic piece u wrote. u r not helping kj's here, his crumbling campaign will crumble even faster no thank to u.

Anonymous,  19 March 2009 at 18:15  

anon at 17:44.
why you worry? jika senapang patah punya article hasten the downfall of khairy, that is a bonus to you kan? jadi apa kisah apa senapang patah nak tulis?.
who's the sorry ass now?
senapang patah- tembak jangan tak tembak.

Anonymous,  19 March 2009 at 20:27  

hello anon 18:15,

me no worry one la, just wondering, thot kj balacis all smart2, sharp2 one.

Anonymous,  19 March 2009 at 22:37  

Orang Anon 17:13 menyelit di sini,
dari jenis mereka yang ada versi sejarah yang pelik, termasuk mengatakan Malayan Communist Party itu pergerakan nasionalis, harus di puji, dan sebagai nya.

Tak usah layan jenis ini. Biar SB sahaja yang mengawasi nya.

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