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Sunday, 23 November 2008

Yoga and the Road to Perdition



I was reading the Sunday Times. The headlines screamed, Yoga Ban!. As though, there are millions of Muslims practising Yoga.

The reasoning by the national fatwa council chairman caught my eyes. OK, issuing fatwas is not my province. But banal reasoning is irksome. Chairman Shu-kor said- In Islam, one must do things which can erode one’s aqidah (faith). Yoga, even though merely the physical movements, is a step towards the erosion of a Muslim’s faith.

Hmm, that sets the confused mind of sakmongkol thinking. He wants Chairman- Shu-Kor to fatwa the following:-

  • The act of sembah your kings and royals. Isn’t this an act contrary to teachings of Islam?
  • What is his fatwa on the usage of the term ‘maha’ to mortals- such as duli yang MAHA mulia?
  • Will he ban the use of yellow colour in royal regalia because that colour was inherited from Malay kings who were Hindus a long time ago?
  • Will he also issue at fatwa on the recent press conference by Razak Baginda where he (Razak) equates himself with Allah?*(see notes below)

After this- will we have Goons( Guadians Of Our Nation’s Soul) spying and barging into yoga classes to see whether Muslims are carrying out these activities.

Assalamulaikum tuan chairman, - can you dispatch your goons into the house of leading politicians to see whether they have bars inside their houses? Go to watering holes in Bangsar, Kuala Lumpur, Zouk! Bukit Bintang area to identify and arrest those Muslim beer guzzlers and wine drinkers? These are ‘harm’ bukan?

The steps to perdition are many. Poverty which afflicts the majority of Muslim nations surely is a more potent danger to the faithful? Repressions, violation of women, mental subjugation are even more insidious .

And so sakmongkol asks chairman Shu-Kor, you have nothing better to do? The Indian who are Muslims in India, are they subjected to this same fatwa? In China, where the number of Muslims are more numerous than Malay Muslims, are they subjected to the same fatwa?

Even more ominious- is the warning- don’t question the fatwa. Perhaps this can clear some doubts in the mind of a visitor to Sakmongkol’s blog, Confuseus, whether this country is secularised or clericalised.

But wait, what is this I see:-

The development of Sufism was considerably influenced by Indian yogic practises, where they adapted both physical postures (asanas) and breath control (pranayama). The ancient Indian yogic text, Amritakunda, ("Pool of Nectar)" was translated into Arabic and Persian as early as the 11th century.

*.- DS Najib has sworn before Allah, uttering Wallahi, Wabillahi, Watalllahi. For a Muslim whose aqidah is unquestionable, to supplement that swearing before Allah with a press conference, is clearly an attempt of equating onself with godly status. Isn’t this shirik, sahibbus-samahah?

24 comments:

Anonymous,  23 November 2008 at 13:28  

I am not that young to follow aerobics classes regularly.So once in a while,I frequent the yoga classes.
I bukan buat zina or main judi or minum arak or whatever haram stuff.
So as long as its not stated in the Quran,I will continue my yoga classes.I am not that pious but I always try to be a very good Muslim.
Janganlah melampau sangat sibuk keluarkan fatwa ini and itu.Nak suruh kitaorang makcik2 ni besar macam tong ker?Supaya easy for men to complain bini tak jaga badan?Sheesh!

Anonymous,  23 November 2008 at 15:34  

Bodoh la semua yang menghentam majlis Fatwa ni.. Yoga memang haram sejak dari mula lagi. Fatwa itu hanya lah untuk rekod. Punya la banyak sjenis senaman mengapa itu juga yang di pilih. Punya la banyak fatwa yang dikeluarkan mengapa fatwa ni juga yang di hentam. Mereka hanya menjalankan tugas. Perkara yang perlu orang arif menentukan biarlah mereka menentukan. Sekiranya tuan tidak setuju makan buat saja la. Mengapa mesti di bisingkan. Contoh Arak itu haram. Brapa banyak orang islam yang minum arak kat KL tu. Sapa bising. Tak ada pun. rambut adalah aurat. Brapa ramaiperempuan tidak menutup rambut. Bini PM dan bini TPM pun tak tutup. Siapa bising.. tapi kalau tanya Ahli Majlis Fatwa jawabnya rambut wanita adalah aurat. Nak tunggu fatwa rambut wanita aurat juga ka?

Yang menyedihkan ialah bukan islam mempertikaikan fatwa. Tolong cakap sama me5reka fatwa tiada kena mengena dengan mereka. benak benak.

Jed Yoong 23 November 2008 at 15:49  

what about chi gong...that's even more "dodgy"....the list never ends...

Mat Cendana 23 November 2008 at 17:04  

Oh, drat! I'm late again with catching up the news (banyak `real kerja' right now, as Mamasita knows). Everyone has already come up with a post about this. Looks like I'll have to think up of a different angle - AFTER completing this "cari makan" work first.

BTW Elviza will be on a TV1 programme tonight at 8.40PM

Anonymous,  23 November 2008 at 17:06  

anonymous @ 15.34.
saya suka pendapat spt ini- yg membodohkan semua orang yang menyatakan pendapat mereka. bila dlm hal ini, suka sangat biarkan mereka yang expert dalam hal ini menyuarakan. dlm hal lain, tak pulak di pakai prinsip ini. yang bahalul politik di bolehkan pulak. yang bebal dalam hal perniagaan di benarkan walaupun tidak arif dalam hal tersebut.
bila yoga di haramkan? sejak dulu tu bila. kalau haram mengapa di serapkan dalam amalan sufi?
cuba anon syorkan pula majlis fatwa buat keputusan atas rokok. rokok ada candu bukan? apa yang memabukkan tentu haram?
Islam tidak ada konsep haram separuh dan halal separuh. sama ada perkara itu haram semua atau halal semua. apa tuan kata kepada mereka yang kata yoga boleh di buat kalau untuk kesihatan badan? ertinya, ada bahagian yoga yang halal dan ada yang haram? ini nas dari mana?
kalau kita ikut prinsip yang di pakai oleh setengah orang seperti ini, kita boleh minum arak jika tak memabukkan?
kenyataan ' klau tak setuju buat saja lah' ini bukan cara menyelesaikan. kemukakan hujjah untuk meyakinkan. status ulamak bukan beri kita lesen untuk membelasah pendapat orang lain.
atau adakah sebab orang lain bodoh, takpe kita memperlekehkan mereka?

maaf kepada pemilik blog ini. sekian.

A Voice 23 November 2008 at 17:14  

Fatwa mengenai yoga itu releven, tetapi fatwa itu adalah pendapat sekumpulan ulamak sebagai PANDUAN UNTUK AWAM.

Kalau kita rasa kita mempunyai cukup pemahaman sendiri, buatlah apa yang patut untut DIRI SENDIRI.

Penting sekali jaga akidah dan menjaga niat di dalam hati kita.

Saya pun pernah buat yoga tetapi saya enggan ikut instructor dan tentang argue mengenai chanting aum mereka.

Itu adalah jelas elemen hindu dan bagi mereka yang tidak memahami, mereka telah lakukan amalan Hindu.

Kita tidak boleh ikut cara mereka, sebagaimana surah kul ya ayyuhal kafiirun ...

Saya setuju dengan arif:

Bagaimana dengan hal-hal lain yg patut diharamkan, terutama salah guna kuasa, makan rasuah, dan tak sembahyang.

Berhubung surah kul ya ..., si Jed Yoong ni kena kasi peringatan.

JANGAN SIBUK DALAM HAL UGAMA ORANG dan JADI BATU API.

Hormati sosial kontrak!

Oleh kerana kamu sibuk pasal ugama aku, aku nak tanya:

Kenapa kau dan Teresa Kok masih makan dan ternak swine sedangkan Old Testament larang makan?

Injil asal suruh ikut Nabi terakhir, Nabi Muhammad, kenapa kamu tak ikut???

Dari tulisan-tulisan kamu Jed Yoong yang lepas, kenapa kamu membenci orang Islam?

Saya masih simpan banyak tulisan-tulisan kritikal kamu mengenai Islam yang berlandaskan fakta-fakta salah.

Nak debat, kamu boleh talipon saya terus. Tolong guna bahasa kebangsaan.

Wink Wink ... Tun suruh attack, best defense!

A Tabib 23 November 2008 at 17:46  

Looks like everyone's hot under the collar in this thread.

The press statement issued on Jakim's website is actually a bland three paragraph statement.

It says practising Yoga (with the chants, mantras, trying to achieve unity with God, etc) "adalah tidak sesuai dan boleh merosakkan akidah seorang muslim." Can't argue with that.

Further it also says, "Sementara pergerakan amalan fizikal tanpa unsur-unsur di atas yang dilakukan pada zahirnya tidaklah menjadi kesalahan."

The statement ends with a reminder to Muslims to preserve their akidah.

The NST may have sexed up the story a bit but I can't see any problem with the Fatwa.

sakmongkol AK47 aka Mat Tomoi 23 November 2008 at 18:13  

a tabig said,

Further it also says, "Sementara pergerakan amalan fizikal tanpa unsur-unsur di atas yang dilakukan pada zahirnya tidaklah menjadi kesalahan."
this should give reprieve to Muslims practising yoga minus the chantings. like the Muslim lady who has invested a lot of money into setting up a yoga gym.
but i also agree with one anon who questions the wisdom of a fatwa which rules that a portion of yoga is ok, while the other part is haram. how can a fatwa reconcile the two?
something surely cannot be halal and haram at the same time. can it?

A Tabib 23 November 2008 at 22:26  

Touche AK.

I think the Fatwa Council is mainly concerned about the spiritual/mental aspects of Yoga. Yoga after all has its roots in the Hindu Veda scriptures. "Real" Yoga contains certain religious rituals aimed at educating and disciplining the soul.

On the other hand the "Yoga" practiced by the Muslim lady (and others) according to her apparently consist only of physical movements/exercise. No chanting or meditation. They may call it Yoga but it's actually just exercise.

My understanding is the Fatwa Council, from its web posting, has taken the position that these two forms are distinct and so has banned one and allowed (with caveats) the other.

Just as an aside I think the Fatwa Council, who are made up of knowledgeable people, should learn to communicate its edicts better. There shouldn't be a need for a follow-up press conference to expand on the reasons for its edicts just like what happened in the Tomboy fatwa.

Looking at the uproar over this one, I'm sure they'll be holding a Yoga press conference soon.

Grand Marquis,  24 November 2008 at 01:18  

Dear Sakmongkol,

Quoting your statement
"but i also agree with one anon who questions the wisdom of a fatwa which rules that a portion of yoga is ok, while the other part is haram. how can a fatwa reconcile the two? something surely cannot be halal and haram at the same time. can it?"

It clearly shows that you do not understand the concept of fatwa, and halal and haram. Put it in a simple example, buying a ball is not haram, but buying a ball in order to worship the ball as God is haram. Going to church to see the architectural design is not haram. But going to church to perform the christian's rituals is haram.

The fatwa council have to be fair. The non-haram aspects should be kept non-haram and the haram aspects should remain haram. That is exactly what they are doing.

Mat Cendana 24 November 2008 at 02:04  

@Grand Marquis
Quoting your statement:

"It clearly shows that you do not understand the concept of fatwa, and halal and haram."

FUH! I LOVE people like you!... I'm trying to picture what you look like: Let's see... probably one of those who have a stack full of "kitab" and assorted religious books (they should include Imam Ghazali's Ihyak Ulum Mudin too, to be on the safe side... probably the Indonesian translation, but hey; you might even understand Arabic! Good for you)

Yes, having all those religious books (maybe had read a few too, with the rest just for show to visitors at home and the office of "rethi ugama") - and yet failing to have the basics of what it takes to be a decent human being.

Dude, TWO things that you've mentioned there: That Sakmongkol 1) does not understand the concept of fatwa; AND 2) does not understand the concept of halal and haram

And you have added the adverb of "clearly" too - such is your very deep understanding of Sakmongkol! Amazing - all this from just ONE post? Sir, I'd like to be your "anak murid"; to have you teach me how to acquire this skill (I'm willing to pay a deposit too).

Say, are you by any chance Mamasita masquerading as someone else? Or Sakmongkol's close relatives? No? Then how the hell could you CONFIDENTLY add that adverb?!

Ah, I know - this is someone with past grudges ... waiting and waiting until he *thinks* this is it! Haha! Think again, dude.

Sakmongkol will answer it with a lot more elegance and finesse, being the gentleman that he is, when he wakes up. Unfortunately for you, I'M NOT. But you'll have to make do with me for the time being (I have a deadline to meet but I'm gonna sacrifice it for this pleasure).

Hokay, first of all, please read this part of Sakmongkol's post again: "OK, issuing fatwas is not my province. But banal reasoning is irksome."

He had acknowledged that he isn't an EXPERT (unlike YOU - and I don't think you are either. Oh, you insist that you are? Well, let's see your name then, Ustaz err... WHAT?)

Okay, why don't you throw that line to ME... that I "clearly don't understand the concept of Fatwa and whatever else" either.

Heck, I'll be much easier meat to handle - unlike Sakmongkol who has a MA from Manchester, I'm only a graduate of, erm... the Gambang Institute (class of 05/06, Asrama Cendana).

...in which case, I certainly don't know what is halal or haram,... DEFINITELY (if I do, how did I end up there, eh?)

To cut it short (because I have a very important thing to do - something that I must complete before Subuh... you might see it in the newspaper) here's a bit of advice. Yes, unsolicited. That's why I only give it to people "who are deserving". And you sure are one. Here it is:

Go see in your many kitabs - What do they say about "sombong dan angkuh"? Try reread them again and see - Are they present in YOU?

Mat Cendana 24 November 2008 at 04:31  

Oh, by the way; lest Grand Marquis, Sakmongkol and other readers think I'm either against the "Yoga Fatwa": Thought I should mention here that I don't have a solid opinion - yet ... I'm "investigating".

Among other things, I'm reading other blogs that have mentioned it BEFORE the newspapers did. They include a post on Nov 2 by "Malaysian Tigress" in The "Muslim Apologists" and Yoga Fatwa. She had quoted her source, Bergen, here. Then there's Zaharan Razak too (Not the latest, but early November).

(BTW note that Malaysian Tigress had written it well BEFORE Marina Mahathir's post yesterday)

So what's my problem here: The TONE and MANNER of Grand Marquis. Even if/Should I agree with the Fatwa/disagree with Sakmongkol, I'll still jump on him because of that. And yes, even if he's the Mufti of Kelantan.

What if he's Nik Aziz? Simple, Nik Aziz wouldn't come up with that kind of arrogance - that's why he's... Nik Aziz.

A Tabib 24 November 2008 at 06:58  

See what I mean about the need to for the Fatwa Council to communicate better?

Now we have two Muslims, upstanding ones I'm sure, arguing about the meaning of the edict. The same thing is happening in blogoshere and the real world.

Cool down and wait for the supplementary, explantory, amplifying, myth-busting, that-is-not-what-we-meant press conference which I'm sure is forthcoming from the Council.

sakmongkol AK47 aka Mat Tomoi 24 November 2008 at 07:47  

grand marquis's reasoning would have us do the following:-
consuming alcohol is 'halal' as long as it does not intoxicate? that means you can separate( in one single entity) the halal and the haram aspects? alcohol becomes haram only when the point of intoxication is reached? is it not haram right from the beginning and not halal up to a certain portion then when intoxication stage is reached, the haram aspect comes into operation?
what i want to know from the fatwa council is to state clearly whether this yoga is haram ab initio or not. whether it is intrinsically haram or not. jangan confuse people. layman like i, by saying halfway its ok, halfway its haram. its either haram or halal, not half by half.
imagine the enforcement problems by our morals squad going to yoga gyms to enforce the ruling, only to be met with responses- oh i am only doing the non haram parts. or going to bars/drinking places, oh..i am just consuming the halal part. why? because sahibbus samahag grand marquis kata- there is a halal and haram aspect in one single entity.
at the end of the day, Muslims are guided by the principle of amar makruf, nahi mungkar. do what god enjoins you and do and stay away from what god forbids.

sakmongkol AK47 aka Mat Tomoi 24 November 2008 at 09:30  

mat cendana,
thank you for yr spirited defence. grand marquis assumes that others like me dont know the meaning of fatwa, halal and haram. i read his post yesterday, buy chose not to reply. as i known, this kind of taking position will drag on arguments forever.
perhaps this kind of condescending dismissive statement from people who thnk they are holier than other people, is what gives Islam a bad name. i have had my share and encounters with this kind.
by the way, this is the kind of people you dont see around when we hold khatam quran, buat maulid, buat ratib-haddad. yet on the same breadth, they are quick to pass judgment.

UBIERECT 24 November 2008 at 09:30  

I've said it before in my comment here.The muslim in power is about Kulit.

Mat Cendana

You are one of the rare people who understand. :)

A Tabib

"It says practising Yoga (with the chants, mantras, trying to achieve unity with God, etc) "adalah tidak sesuai dan boleh merosakkan akidah seorang muslim." Can't argue with that."

as always you have your kitab tebal behind you ..to defend your statement. But do you yourself..can defend your statement.

What if I do yoga by chanting La Illah Ha Ilallah.

Surely,There will be a new fatwa coming up saying that It is Ajaran Sesat.
But it is only Zikir....why are those Muftis afraid of Zikir? Because we minght be better spiritually than them?

Anonymous,  24 November 2008 at 09:54  

maaf menyampuk.
saya setuju benar kalau majlis fatwa keluarkan keputusan mereka. memang tugas mereka pun untuk menegur, mencegah perkara-perkara yang boleh membawa kemungkaran.

soal akidah ni tak penting ke?

kita kena ingat, satu hari esok kita kena mengadap Allah. masa tu la kita nak kena menjawab.

kalaulah apa-apa yang kita buat tu menyebabkan tergelincirnya akidah kita, apa kita nak jawab? pak mufti tak bagi tau? dah sudah, pak mufti dah kena heret sekali.

maaf, saya tak nampak kenapa fatwa yoga ini perlu dipertikaikan. yang saya nampak ini adalah usaha-usaha untuk memperkecilkan peranan ulamak di dalam kehidupan orang islam.

Anonymous,  24 November 2008 at 10:07  

tok saya ada ajar( tok saya pun ulamak).
orang pertama masuk neraka ialah ulamak ussu'. mufti yg beri fatwa ikut suka hati, lah yang masuk neraka dulu.orang yang tahu agama yang buat dosa, mereka jalan dulu.
siapa yang tak hormat ulamak? takde ulamak, otak kita yg terhad ni, tak faham agama. sebab itu ulamak pewaris para nabi.
tidak ada orang yang mempertikaikan fatwa. tapi kena hurai betul2. saya tak beryoga tapi seperti ramai pemberi komen sini, saya pun nak tahu- bahagian mana yang halal dan bila bahagian yang haram? mustahil sesuatu boleh halal dan haram pada masa yang sama dan pada satu perkara.
besok, ada orang kata zina boleh buat, sebab tak masuk air. macam ni? fatwa yang jelas dan nyata yng kita kehendaki. yg beri fatwa ini manusia kan, bukan maskum. tok kadhi dan mufti ramai main golf... ini permainan orang kristian ke?

Grand Marquis,  24 November 2008 at 11:51  

Dear Mat Cendana,

With all due respect, you are so defensive.

Well I do have a lot of respect on Sakmongkol. But I do get perplexed by his statement. Therefore I quoted him in order to be precise.

I am perplexed because he seems not able to dissect a simple matter like the wisdom of a fatwa which rules that a portion of yoga is ok, while the other part is haram. how can a fatwa reconcile the two? something surely cannot be halal and haram at the same time. can it?

Yes, this is too trivial for someone not to be able to gauge the answer for it.

Sakmongkol raised the issue of alcohol. Good point. Now my question is that is alcohol haram simply because it is alcohol or because it is an intoxicant? The quantity should not arise because if it is haram, then the quantity will no longer be an issue (unless you want to open up a topic to discuss about it).

Malaysian Tigress 24 November 2008 at 12:13  

Dear respected bloggers...

I personally feel that we should have more respect for our scholars and their justified worry for the problems arising from arbitrary/unthinking acceptance and assimilation of practices which may inevitably lead to shirk "yang sengaja" atau "yang tidak sengaja". I really do not see anything wrong with that.

Yes, there are many other issues that need to be dealt with...maybe we can work as a group with the fatwa council, or bring up issues that we feel need urgent addressing with regards to women's rights in syariah courts, corruption, drinking etc2, some of which are already clearly haram but still rampant...but that does not mean we should denigrate our ulamas. Maybe holding discussions to get a clearer picture would be better.

I may not be a good muslim oftentimes but what what is the truth, remains the truth...we should not shoot the messengers of truth who are trying to protect the akidah of fellow muslims....

Maaf kalau tersalah/kasar bahasa dengan blogger2 yang terhormat di sini dengan komen ini...just want to make a point...

A Tabib 24 November 2008 at 15:37  

Ubierect,

Are you still smarting because I corrected you when you said no Quran was written until 300 years after the Prophet's (saw) last sermon?

/* What if I do yoga by chanting La Illah Ha Ilallah. */

Why would you want to do Yoga while doing tahlil?

You have a great website and I like your reference book. I've come across many people like you, usually in pasar malam, selling products like yours. They usually pull pictures from medical textbooks or magazines and a couple of testimonials to back up their products and look legitimate. But unlike you, they don't usually have the "One Thousand and One Nights" as their kitab or reference. You are the first. Congratulations, you've set a record of sorts.

Whatever ibadah we do we can only hope that Allah accepts them. That's the best we can do. Isn't deciding who is a better Muslim Allah's prerogative?

Godisuno 24 November 2008 at 23:11  

sembahyang selain daripada ibadah juga merupakan satu exercise kepada badan. dalam sembahyang kita patut khusyuk untuk mendapatkan ketenangan. jadi sembahyang yang disyariatkan oleh Allah mempunyai kelebihan untuk spiritual, mental dan fizikal. persoalannya kenapa kita sebagai orang Islam mencari jalan yang lain umpanyanya yoga untuk mendapatkan kesihatan dan ketenangan.

Mengenai pendapat yang mengatakan sufism mendapat idea dari yoga, saya rasa kajian mesti dibuat untuk memastikan adakah kenyataan itu benar. Apa yang diamalkan dalam sufism pada pendapat saya adalah berdasarkan prinsip khusyuk dalam sembahyang dan zikir. Maknanya kita memusatkan pemikiran dan fizikal kita kepada Allah tanpa memikirkan perkara lain.

Saya juga pernah meneliti banyak teknik psychology untuk mencari ketenangan dan juga pernah mengkaji mengenai yoga yang dikatakan boleh membantu secara spiritual, mental dan fizikal...tetepi diakhirnya saya membuat konklusi bahawa...saya tersasar jauh..kerana rupanya apa yang saya cari selama itu sudah ada didepan mata iaitu khusyuk dalam sembahnyang dan zikir. Mungkin kita dikhayalkan oleh dunia... mencari yang jauh yang tak pasti hingga tidak menghargai apa yang dekat dengan kita.. wallahuallam

Mat Cendana 24 November 2008 at 23:56  

@To Sakmongkol, Grand Marquis and all:

As I had mentioned earlier, I haven't really decided which is which and what is what. The issue that I have is just one: The manner in which one addresses another. And especially when it comes to religious matters.

For all we know, I might actually disagree with Sakmongkol. However, I resent it when someone becomes condescending towards another ... something like "I'm a better Muslim (or whatever) than you are".

This has nothing to do with Grand Marquis anymore. Many might think me as a weirdo after this; and that's okay - most likely I AM one:-)

I had been down that road before and I was looking AT MY FORMER SELF. I'd like you all to know that I once was someone who "had felt some people were not good Muslims like I was" ... because of just one thing: I was a strong PAS supporter and they were not with PAS.

I feel so ashamed of it right now but that was what I had felt. Now I know this one thing - When I had felt that way, I CERTAINLY WASN'T a better Muslim or person than the ones I had compared. I wasn't even a good Muslim - not when I had that sombong, angkuh and takabur inside me. And yes, I had them - TONS.

Guess where it got me? ... I eventually ended up in prison. And pusat serenti (although that was a GOOD thing... long story).

Well, to make it short: For Muslims; YES, fight for the religion. But don't ever forget our selves. What are we saying and doing something for? What is the REAL niat? (NOT the outwardly visible).

And when it comes to actions - whatever actions that also include words (either in written or oral form): These two elements must be GOOD - 1) The niat (intentions) AND 2) The method/manner/way.

Having only one is NOT okay... Having "niat baik" BUT the manner is wrong i.e antagonising others for instance, is NOT okay... and don't ever think it's "Kerana Allah" when the manner is wrong. For it surely isn't...only that we "perasan" and comfort ourselves that it is so.

BTW I have my own thoughts about this "Yoga Fatwa" - and I feel there are "BIGGER things" behind it. There's something going on, and I have my own theory. I might write about it at my blog. In fact, I SHOULD. Unfortunately, I'm too busy.

Right now, "cari makan" is more important - have to take care of MYSELF first, and my family. Only then can I care about "SOCIETY".

BTW I still do support PAS - and especially Nik Aziz. But I don't have that "holier than thou" anymore, Thank God.

And I don't simply support anyone who is "PAS too"; no sorry - it's on a person-to-person basis. That also means I might be okay with "Umno people". Or "non-Malays". Or "non-Muslims".

It's "WHO YOU ARE" that I'm more concerned with in the final analysis; NOT your party or race or religion (although I'm naturally inclined towards my own).

I hope I've not been too confusing:-) Gotta continue with my work...

Grand Marquis,  25 November 2008 at 01:41  

People tend to become very defensive when it comes to the matter of religion. You can criticize someone on anything, but as soon as you touch on their religion, they will jump up and become very defensive. Try to criticize a woman who is not covering her aurat see what’s the response. A woman who does not cover her aurat has committed a mistake (read sin) as clear as broad daylight and yet you can see how defensive they can be.

It is not about holier than thou, although accusing other of trying to be holier than thou is the easiest way to be defensive. It is also not about takabur or sombong. It is about point out the mistake others are committing. And pointing out the mistake of other does not mean we are better (read holier than thou) or we do not commit any mistake. We are merely doing what Allah S.W.T. has commanded us to do amar makruf and nahi mungkar. We see something wrong, we have the knowledge about it and we just try to correct it. As simple as that! The fear of being labeled holier than thou is the fear that syaitan incite among us so that we will forever being imprisoned in our own ignorance for the fear of trying to be holier than thou. We have to change this attitude and try to be more positive when someone pointed out our mistakes.

I have to apologize if my tone, manner or choice of word is not right. But I stand to my point that our respected Sakmongkol has err when he questioned the wisdom of a fatwa which rules that a portion of yoga is ok, while the other part is haram.

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