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Friday 3 August 2012

Negeri Sembilan: Feudings in the Federation


A little bit of history.
In the 14th century, Sumateran people from the land of the Minangkabau began to settle down in the state today known as Negeri Sembilan. They came through Melaka and reached places like Rembau. The Minangkabaus brought their superior civilization to bear on the local Asli tribes. Intermarriages between them resulted in the creation of the Biduanda Clan. The biduanda clan eventually emerged as the successors of the ruling tribes and established the rule that territorial chiefs of Negeri Sembilan are only selected from within the Biduanda clan.
The chieftains were originally called Penghulus and later as Undang. Before the arrival of the Paramount Chief Negeri Sembilan formed part of the Johor Sultanate who gave the title Yang di-Pertuan Besar Negeri Sembilan to the Paramount Chief.
The name Negeri Sembilan was first used in the 16th century to refer to the federation of states founded and opened by these MInangkabau people in the Malay Peninsula. In ancient times, the Malay Kingdom encompasses states and territories in Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand and even Kampuchea. People moved from one location to another with much ease and fluidity recognizing no artificial boundaries. The Malay kingdom was one united by kinship, common religion, customs and language.
Internecine feuds seemed to beset Negeri Sembilan right from its beginning when powerful chiefs from the biduanda clan jostled for paramount leadership. To avoid the debilitating feuds, the chiefs sent for a uniting figure from Pagar Ruyung. From that day until now, the paramount chief is known as YamTuan Besar or Yang diPertuan Besar Negeri Sembilan.
While the feuds of old are settled, its modern day version of a house perpetually divided resurface in the form of intense political rivalries. The old chiefs of old are now replaced by UMNO warlords.
Negeri Sembilan has 8 parliamentary seats. 3 are currently held by PR. Seremban(DAP), Rasah(DAP) and Telok Kemang(PKR). In 2008, the average swing in favor of the opposition was 14%. That is, on the average support for the opposition has increased by 14%. Each parliamentary seat exhibits varying degrees of opposition support.
In all my previous analysis, I have included the moderating impacts of what UMNO has done. Giving money, bribing people, bringing in phantom voters and all that. Have they succeeded? Realistically they did but only to a limited extent.
The gains made by UMNO by the only way Najib knows how- buying his and UMNO way through have been cancelled out recently by events Najib cannot control. Najib is not bigger than the market.
The FELDA listing is now being questioned by settlers. It’s also being questioned by non FELDA villagers. How come they do not get anything yet they face the same rising cost of living as FELDA people?  Now that the FGV share price is below RM 5.00, that gives the settler, a premium of 45 sen. With 810 shares, the value the settler holds is RM365 gross, deduct RM200, he holds shares worth RM 165.
 Najib announces RM 43 million hari raya dividends. As there are 112,000 settlers, each settler family gets RM 300 plus.
The other Malays must look at what’s happening.  If the settler whom Najib regards as an important ally who forms his vanguard in his transformation plan can be deceived like that, what of the ordinary Malay villagers? The settlers on whose name those elite groups make money are getting a pittance. That’s what UMNO is doing to the Malays. The settler gives up all assets belonging to FELDA and he is left with his own 10 acre plot. The plot must later on be divided among the children according to Islam’s Faraid laws. They are going to live off land which is getting smaller and smaller. Settlers give up potential rights on 360,000 hectares which could support 80,000 new settlers.
UMNO doesn’t care about you. They care about milking the FELDA cow.
The people of Negeri Semblan can use what happens to FELDA as on object lesson. Negeri Sembilan has large FELDA areas.
Then there are local issues that are tearing UMNO Negeri Sembilan apart. The UMNO liaison chief who is the MB doesn’t command a united house. Isa Samad the former MB can’t wait to have his hands on Mat Hassan’s throat.  There is too much in-fighting. Mat Hassan is dismissive of Rais Yatim as well of Shaziman Abu Mansor who is seen as a potential MB material and therefore of direct potent threat to his post.
The MB’s older brother is seen as the local version of Rasputin controlling and dictating Mat Hassan’s every move and getting himself involved in the management of the state. Azman Hassan who is a former corporate man may have ruffled too many feathers in UMNO Negeri Sembilan. Ishak Ismail, the Seremban UMNO chief is a powerful warlord whose main preoccupation seems to be ousting Mat Hassan from helming the state. If Mat Hassan continues to be UMNO’s commander in the next GE, not only Negeri Sembilan will lose the 4 parliament seats but the state will end up with PR.
Gemas has emerged as the most notorious district in Negeri Sembilan. It is home to the RM250million financial scandal.  People of Negeri Sembilan will also not forget that Gemas is also the other half in the equally scandalous double tracking project linking the town with JB.
With all UMNO has done, they most certainly has regained lost ground. Can they recover all? Perhaps they can regain 5% and issues after issues come out to discredit UMNO.
Most importantly I have made the assumption that PR, after all the gains and inroads they made in 2008, has done NOTHING. What if they have fortified the gains they made and in many cases increase them further?
It’s Armageddon for UMNO.

PARLIAMENT
% support for opposition 2004
% support for opposition in 2008
Vote swing
%
If vote swing is 9%
If vote swing is same as in 2008
1
JELEBU
27
28
4
37
32
2
JEMPOL
31
33
6
42
39
3
SEREMBAN
43
51
19
60
70
4
KUALA PILAH
31
33
6
42
39
5
RASAH
51
60
18
69
78
6
REMBAU
36
43
19
52
62
7
TELOK KEMANG
38
51
34
60
85
8
TAMPIN
27
30
11
39
41





4
4
State’s average vote swing to opposition: 14%.
Since 2004, there has been an overall increase of support for the opposition.
But let’s give the benefit of doubt to UMNO. That with all the deception, bribery, cash handouts, daily propaganda they have done, they manage to regain 5 percentage points. That leaves a 9% credit to the opposition.
If each parliamentary seat is given a 9% vote swing, PR can still win 4 parliamentary seats. Rembau the seat of UMNO Youth chief is set to go. Anthony Loke is entrenched in Rasah. Seremban has always been a traditional seat for DAP. Telok Kemang will be retained by PKR.
It would be interesting to field Aspan Alias in Rembau to take on KJ if he is lucky to be retained as moves are underway by unseen UMNO old hands to kick him out. In any case KJ has announced he doesn’t want to contest.
Or as a powerful symbolic gesture, field Aspan in Seremban.
If PR can offer quality and credible candidates in Jempol and Kuala Pilah, these two are possible seats for PR.
The people of Negeri Sembilan: think of all the land Isa Samad sold off. Think of the contracts and businesses gobbled up by Mat Hassan and his brother and crony friends.
Orang2 Melayu Negeri Sembilan- Do you still want to vote UMNO? Not voting UMNO doesn’t erase your Malayness and doesn’t cancel out your Muslim-ness.

33 comments:

bruno,  3 August 2012 at 08:54  

Dato,the reason Umno is in deep shit is because of massive greed.They were just too greedy and shared the stolen loot among a group of privileged few.

Just looking back at history,did anyone remember how strong Datuk Harun was,even when Hussein Onn had the police backed by soldiers armed with machine guns,bazookas and tanks outside his house.All ready to go in.And his supporters was loyal to him till the end.Because he knows how to look after them.

If Umno had learned a lesson,by reading the history books they wouldn't have been standing on the edge,waiting to fall over the cliffs.

Umno stands a very good chance of losing Negri Sembilan,if the people is oblivious of what is happening to them.First Umno screwed the Felda settlers.Then Umno humped the NFC cows,causing the price of beef to go sky high.

That means that the people in Negri Sembilan got a double whammy from Umno.If getting humped twice is still not enough to whack Umnoputras left,right and center,then the people need to get hump a third time before they finally wake up.

Patrick 3 August 2012 at 09:33  

You are correct in your analysis of NS. The business community in NS has a big grudge against the MB and his crony and hence, UMNO/BN. They seem to be grabbing as much money from whatever nook and crany they can find. And at the same time, exacting a terrible toll on the businesses in NS.

From the non commercial side, the poor and settlers of FELDA are also unhappy already. The chinese community is definitely now against the incumbent, stronger in opposition than ever.

The infighting within the govt is a blessing to the opposition. As we all know, too many warlords from different UMNO camps are vying for as much money they can grab before the state collapse. This has turned into a deadly match, which, ironically is helping the opposition. As mentioned before, money was what built UMNO, and money is the cause of their drastic collapse. Now that the lower echelon UMNO sees clearly Najib's greed by awarding giant and lucrative govt contracts to his close business, these have only emboldened lower UMNO liners to squander more and openly without regard. 'Monkey see, monkey do' and UMNO is so full of them. Its a self perpetuating collapse that is gaining speed.

People are not blind nor stupid these days what they see and hear on the ground is vastly different from the mainstream media. Plus the fact that the opposition has been wrongly and openly persecuted for all the gross negligence they have revealed in the govt, is a definitely plus point. My bet is on opposition taking over NS.

Kampong man,  3 August 2012 at 10:24  

Sak,

Do not suggest Aspan to contest in Rembau, he will lose.Rembau. If DAP is serious about putting malay candidates it should be in chinese dominated areas.Most malays are yet to accept DAP to champion their cause.That goes to you as well.You may try Raub or Bukit Bintang, KL else your political career will be as good as finished.I have been consistent on this.You may not like this but i can tell you that N9 will be a smooth sailing for BN unlike Selangor.Mark my word on my analysis.Anyway, my best of luck to you and Aspan in the coming election.It is exciting to see how my two buddies fare.Thank you.

bruno,  3 August 2012 at 10:39  

Dato,this coming GE many senior Umno leaders stand a very good chance of losing their seats.With so many Umno leaders facing eviction notices because their lease has expired what hope do they have.

With scores of Umno leaders chasing after the few suppossedly safe seats left,they will be going after each others throat in a dog eat dog world.When they are done with each other,those left standing will be too torn up and damaged goods to be able to face the opposition.Khairy included.

Khairy being a graduate from Oxford and supposed to be smart,he started messing around his FIL's 4th floor.He started young and got mixed up in the wrong crowd,the Umnoputras.Rubbing shoulders with the Umnoputras,he caught the Umnoputras syndrome.He became too ambitious and greedy.And like all Umnoputras he got his fingers bitten off.

After this GE is over,it will be no surprised that among the Umnoputras left standing will be Najib and a few of the lesser known Umno leaders.Najib,because of his going to the rakyat and winning the popularity contest, and also the rakyat returning him the favor, giving him some face.

And also the rakyat do not want a friendly Najib to go down as the first sitting PM to lose defending his parliamentary seat in history.

Quiet Despair,  3 August 2012 at 11:58  

Beloved brother KJ quitting?
No, siree. That was then, this is now.
His announcement about quitting was just a feeler to gauge his support especially within the UMNO youth rank and file.
That was quite some time ago. The game has changed.
I am an ardent twitter and FB fan of KJ. He is so upbeat and confident of the support among Gen Y in particular.
Not a day passes that he is not involved in one activity or another in NS or other states. Most times three events in a day!
Word has it that he will swap seats with Mat Hassan. This will pave the way for KJ to be the MB.
Why not? If Mukhriz can, KJ can do better.
Dato' Ishak Ismail is THE warlord in NS. He has the listening ears of the UMNO big-wigs. What he says goes.
If He does not want Mat Hassan in the list, out Mat goes. It's great if Najib is brave to pension him off.
It will be happy news if dinosaurs like short-stuffs Isa and Anak Yatim are not chosen as candidates.
Isa should be contented looking after Felda and Bibi. Rais needs to spend some time with cucu-cucu.
So your side-kick Tuan double A should be better off contesting in constituencies of Pilah or Jelebu.
He will be a giant killer if he can trounce UMNO there.
It will not be cheating, yes, if Tuan Double A wins?
How about you Pak Sak contesting in the only 3 sure DAP seats in NS.
It's the best bet for you rather than in Pahang where you dont have a chance to either be ADUN or MP.
Why not aim to be MB of NS? A better possibility than Pahang indeed. At least reachable.

Anonymous,  3 August 2012 at 14:30  

Dato, your comment:"The settler gives up all assets belonging to FELDA and he is left with his own 10 acre plot. The plot must later on be divided among the children according to Islam’s Faraid laws."

I was told that Japanese inheritance law dictates that all properties nominally go to the eldest child in the family, while the rest count for nothing. Across the ocean, the Chinese (before Mao took over)practised a variation of Faraid laws except that there the female of the species countered for nothing. The one functions as One continuously, while the other decomposes continually. Logic drives home an elementary truism: capacity building and consolidation of assets can only occur in one nation and not in the other.

So in old China, thoughtless cultural mores effectively programmed a once great civilisation into fragmentation mode, in more sense than one, while Japan pushed itself forward relentlessly,remorselessly - ah what a terrible shame that it needed two atomic sense inducers to convince the inhabitants that they were worse than their snow apes forever frolicking in alpine hot-springs. That the old China is enjoying a dramatic rebirth is no accident - Mao, no angel at all, stopped the rot and uplifted the distaff side cheering that women held one half of the Chinese sky.

What am I driving at? Simply, UMNO warlords and assorted pseudo-bangsawan, had better, within the context of the faraid framework, not only exercise extreme care but be seen to be doing so, in the re-distribution of wealth. One half of society cannot see its assets atomised while the other half multiplies, a situation so apparent in every State controlled by UMNO even to the most casual political observer. The winner-takes-all syndrome, just a mere craft in Marcos’s and Suharto’s universe has morphed, in Malaysia, into an exquisite art form by UMNO thanks to pliant and obedient law enforcement agencies, almost all clueless about the differences between upholding the sovereignty of a State and truckling to the whims, fancies and criminal intimidations of one specific player in the political arena, i.e. UMNO. The feuding in all UMNO–controlled States is essentially a pre-inheritance problem: how much should one warlord get for ultimate optimum intra-family distribution, and this inexorably pushes the matter to a free-for-all, initially, and then all-or-nothing as swords are drawn. Janji ditepati, janji to whom? Tepati untuk siapa?

Underlying all the tensions in the country is the all but forgotten saga of lawyer Rosli Dahlan and Dato Ramli, an ex-senior Police Officer. As one sad episode of plain abuse of official power comes to an end, not without almost destroying two men’s life , another has just started. Read the blogs about the withdrawal of MACC’s case against Rosli Dahlan and Dato Ramli. Read this, courtesy of Din Merican’s blog:
http://gbgerakbudaya.com/bookshop/index.php?main_page=product_book_info&cPath=2_8&products_id=1584

Is it any surprise then as story after story reveal the depths of division within UMNO that the leadership feel compelled to resort to more draconian measures to deal with the Opposition?

Extreme politics like extreme sports can be fatal, be it in Negri Sembilan, Johor, Perlis or Kedah, just to name a few States. The era for self-aggrandisement is over; It is time for the politics of moderation, clean living and responsible governance.

Anonymous,  3 August 2012 at 14:48  

Dato very good analysis State by State. BN with be hard pressed to deny PR 2rd majority in GE13

cui bono?,  3 August 2012 at 14:55  

Dato, your comment:"The settler gives up all assets belonging to FELDA and he is left with his own 10 acre plot. The plot must later on be divided among the children according to Islam’s Faraid laws."

I was told that Japanese inheritance law dictates that all properties nominally go to the eldest child in the family, while the rest count for nothing. Across the ocean, the Chinese (before Mao took over)practised a variation of Faraid laws except that there the female of the species countered for nothing. The one functions as One continuously, while the other decomposes continually. Logic drives home an elementary truism: capacity building and consolidation of assets can only occur in one nation and not in the other.

So in old China, thoughtless cultural mores effectively programmed a once great civilisation into fragmentation mode, in more sense than one, while Japan pushed itself forward relentlessly,remorselessly - ah what a terrible shame that it needed two atomic sense inducers to convince the inhabitants that they were worse than their snow apes forever frolicking in alpine hot-springs. That the old China is enjoying a dramatic rebirth is no accident - Mao, no angel at all, stopped the rot and uplifted the distaff side cheering that women held one half of the Chinese sky.

What am I driving at? Simply, UMNO warlords and assorted pseudo-bangsawan, had better, within the context of the faraid framework, not only exercise extreme care but be seen to be doing so, in the re-distribution of wealth. One half of society cannot see its assets atomised while the other half multiplies, a situation so apparent in every State controlled by UMNO even to the most casual political observer. The winner-takes-all syndrome, just a mere craft in Marcos’s and Suharto’s universe has morphed, in Malaysia, into an exquisite art form by UMNO thanks to pliant and obedient law enforcement agencies, almost all clueless about the differences between upholding the sovereignty of a State and truckling to the whims, fancies and criminal intimidations of one specific player in the political arena, i.e. UMNO. The feuding in all UMNO–controlled States is essentially a pre-inheritance problem: how much should one warlord get for ultimate optimum intra-family distribution, and this inexorably pushes the matter to a free-for-all, initially, and then all-or-nothing as swords are drawn. Janji ditepati, janji to whom? Tepati untuk siapa?

Underlying all the tensions in the country is the all but forgotten saga of lawyer Rosli Dahlan and Dato Ramli, an ex-senior Police Officer. As one sad episode of plain abuse of official power comes to an end, not without almost destroying two men’s life , another has just started. Read the blogs about the withdrawal of MACC’s case against Rosli Dahlan and Dato Ramli. Read this, courtesy of Din Merican’s blog:
http://gbgerakbudaya.com/bookshop/index.php?main_page=product_book_info&cPath=2_8&products_id=1584

Is it any surprise then as story after story reveal the depths of division within UMNO that the leadership feel compelled to resort to more draconian measures to deal with the Opposition?

Extreme politics like extreme sports can be fatal, be it in Negri Sembilan, Johor, Perlis or Kedah, just to name a few States. The era for self-aggrandisement is over; It is time for the politics of moderation, clean living and responsible governance.

Pok Li,  3 August 2012 at 15:21  

Najib will win the election. But not because of his going to the rakyat and winning the popularity contest, its because he has his safe deposit in Pekan in the form of the tens of thousands of postal votes from the two army camps.

Anonymous,  3 August 2012 at 16:30  

Orang negeri sembilan sangatlah kuatnya pada "biar mati anak, jangan mati adat". Tak nya berubah. Whatever you say. Sebab sangat-sangat excellent dalam hal mengenang "budi". Whatever you may call it - this "budi" thing. Sokopuk baik analisis tuan ... budayo setio ni kuek tuan ... Budayo dongki janganlah cakap... kek kek kampung ... orang-orang kuek adat dan politik tak payah poi tinggi-tinggi sokolah, yang ponting pandai baleh budi ...:)

Yang pasti, yang boleh memikirkan berada di urban areas in and out of NS.

-Northern Mountain-

Quiet Despair,  3 August 2012 at 17:36  

Salam Kampungman

Yes, Sakmongkol. We love you and Double A and have your best interests at heart.
More so you being my home-state guy.
We want both of you to win though we may not like the DAP.
Please regard us as your friend who cares for you like family.
I hope PAS will give you to contest Setiawangsa seat vacated by the late Lo'LO. Or DAP will give you any Malay majority area in KL, PJ, Perak and Penang.
Kelana Jaya is the best Malay majority area for you to win.
You can win in Kelantan or Terengganu too but the people there are rather parochial and will not accept oghe luor.
Please not Pahang, N9 or Johor.

Anonymous,  3 August 2012 at 20:18  

Dato'

I think a good wakil rakyat would win no matter which seat he/she is sent to contest. It's the quality of the person which the rakyat now prefer.

loveMyKris 4 August 2012 at 00:01  

Seriously bruno, get a life. I bet you refresh your screen every 5mins. If sak has a new post you'll be jostling to be the first to comment. Kalau komen berisi takpe tapi macam makan nasi tak berkuah..tawar nak mampos. Be like walla la, pedas man. You need to have a long talk with someone about your childhood man. Tak abis2 cerita basi macam orang lain x tau. No diff from hitting the repeat mode in my iPod. Why don't you hang out at kaytees like you used to and don't bother us with your inane 'comments'.

Anonymous,  4 August 2012 at 01:34  

Wresting the state means all parties in Pakatan must win. PKR should retain 4 seats and may win in 3 more. DAP assured of at least 10. I don't see PAS winning more than 2 seats. That's marginal. PAS does not seem to have winnable candidates. If PR fails it's due to PAS .

bruno,  4 August 2012 at 02:01  

Kampong man and Quiet Despair,

my good buddies are back again.

Kampong man,

Yes,Kampong man is correct.Sak and Aspan should choose the right seat where they will score a landslide.Afterall,Sak and Aspan have to impressed their new comrades in DAP and PR,correct?

Kampong man have misread and misjudged the dissent and anger building up by the rakyat against his beloved Umnoputras.That is the reason Umno will be floored this GE.But of course Najib will be one of the few Umno stalwarts left standing after the votes ere tallied.


Quiet Despair,

hi buddy,been recharging your batteries.At last you showed up with the Kampong man.

Your never say die attitude in beliving that Umnoputras will still be in Putrajaya after GE 13th is slowly evaporating into thin air.Your less that vigorous comments looks like it is running out of steam,just like the Umnoputras.But do not worry.Things will be better after they are gone.Cheers buddy.

bruno,  4 August 2012 at 04:29  

Recently newly milked cows by Umnoputras.

NFC cows being milked till their tilts turn sore.

FGV.Cash cow Felda and settlers tits being milked.

Lembuh Pantai.To trash Nurul a petite lady,Nong Chik had been milking the tits of the EPF cow till they turn red,black and purple.

And now Najib wants to milk an white elephant's tits too.What next?

bruno,  4 August 2012 at 08:55  

loveMyKris,

the reason I am always among the few to comment first at Sak's blog is because usually most of the time when Sak posted is the time I am mostly free,full of energy and swapping mosquitoes,if not on the net.

I am having a good life already.Thank you for caring.Hahaha.For your information when I was out making a living,you were just out playing marbles or maybe still wearing diapers.You should learn some tricks of the trade from my smart buddy QD.He is smart,funny,irritating,knows how to get on one's nerves without being rude or offending.

With the GE so near,I am just hanging around Sak's blog more.Being a real pain to Umnoputra lovers and people like you.

After the GE,I will go back to Kaytee' blog to visit the moonsterball and KT.Thank you and you go get a life too.Cheers.

Anonymous,  4 August 2012 at 11:24  

" Extreme politics like extreme sports can be fatal ".

Some politicians in this toxic environment are mentality sick and do not know how/when to stop....take a good look at all of them.

Anonymous,  4 August 2012 at 13:02  

Sak, you're absolutely right DAP must field Aspan in the said area - he will win with his time – tested credibility with friends nationwide and utmost sincerity to serve Orang Negeri and his bahasa; orang puji - berlapik - lapik.

You too, will win, Sak. Please stay very approachable, at all times. It will be Victory for the Rakyat.

I analyze and strongly think the GE 13 will be more exciting than the London 2012 Olympics. Just watch as events unfold dramatically but stay more united, respond, engage, be more inclusive of others, good sincere friends, even from the other wing to A.B.U. Or at least to establish a working rapport with them as our future opposition. Unlike them towards us, very hostile, sounds right ?

Reminiscing what our political and socio - economics analyst with such a big heart and mind for the nation, Walla said we must vote to Win. It is not an option. That is the first courageous step.

However, PK must buck up in areas like Pandan Jaya, heard, its office is under -serviced, not solving highly critical issues there.... when we cruised there to makan the best assam laksa - a dish which i don't quite fancy ( the cats might tag along after )but the one served there is incredible, besides its prawn bihun said to be real tasty.

Heard two flat residents who reciprocated chatting with my friends at our makan table grumbled that PK's office is situated on the 2nd floor ( can't remember ), ai say after having the delicious assam laksa and rojak buah pedas ). According to them, there are a few mini Indon coffee cum food outlets on the ground floor.
Is PK that poor ? or places less / the least priority in the area ? Mind -boggling. DAP/ PK / PAS ? ABU start moving fast, swift, in more united collaboration in these places and other territories.
Sak, when you and Aspan win, you both must recommend that Walla be given an important portfolio, honest, a senior advisor perhaps, said it before, some of you could have wondered why, becos he truly deserves that kind of recognition for his intent sense of justice and mindfulness for every community in the nation and his incredible brilliance, he can handle that blessings of brilliant intelligence from Him. It will develop further, not worries, pls don't think of ageing yet.
Also everyone who has been voicing out alongside with utmost sincerity here for the betterment of the nation and across the blogs will also benefit from the insurmountable benefits when corruptions are eradicated from our nation soon. Gotta go watch Michael Phelps glide like a torpedo to win again, but as a true gracious Olympian winner. Yaaaay .... ooops Or our LCW ( terlupa … nak kena ketuk kepala ) Bravo LCW !

Anonymous,  4 August 2012 at 14:00  

Guys leave Bruno alone he's ok his comments are spot on
He s like a good cheerleader cheering pak Sak along

Anonymous,  4 August 2012 at 17:53  

Yes, Bruno is superb, he is a true loyal supporter of Sak, despite his own work, he doesn't have to do it but he did when we are too busy doing our daily responsibilities. I think he is a true friend to Sak and likewise. Lucky them.

There must be one or two who could have come in here as impersonators pretending to be us and ambush him. Please find your way out to the exit fast.

Let me scan through. We must sniff them out from a far distance and blast them into the putar jaya pond. We also know the tabloid type QD excellent at entertaining himself and us here.

Kg Man is a good sincere friend to Sak and Aspan. And a friend to the poor in the nation as well. So no worries about him. Hence he is always most welcome here like us, Sak's guests to contribute ideas and good humor and wit. But please no idolizing his whoever here. Thanks.

Anonymous,  4 August 2012 at 19:31  

4 August 2012 00:01

I bet you are the earlier part of gen y - one of those few who know they think a lot and speak condescendingly. Put it this way, in the same ingrained habits of impatience, and a lack of respect. will transfer to whoever closest to you. And you will hibernate alone in your pride.

Moving faster that the speed of your impatience, okay take this, I asked point blank two fresh IT grads ( junior to me ) during a conference recently, how is the DAP in Penang towards bilateral and multilateral relationships between the Malays and Chinese, which they honestly told me they are working well, unlike what is portrayed in the controlled media. Shared with them that they had better to do what is right all the time for all Malaysians.

Coming back, what plans of positive engagement do you have to practice communicating with Bruno and us here, prior to actual application with real life multiracial Malaysians after logging off ? Being supportive of others ... this is so lacking in many organisations here.

We seriously need to have a new mentality to move forward as an individual, it is no longer about you, yourself and yours or mine. Grow up emphatically mature, be patient and be inclusive of others.

Mindful expat colleagues on par have taught me how to be gracious and useful at all times to all peoples.

Anonymous,  4 August 2012 at 20:49  

LoveMyKris
What is it to you if Bruno chooses to comment and Dato Sak chooses to show it it his blog.Its his blog.
I for one like reading Bruno's comments and appreciate his support for Sak's ideas.
You don't like it don't read.Just go to the next comment.

Anonymous,  5 August 2012 at 01:06  

wow, i didnt know the stats from previous elections, and when i looked at the table, at shorty's homeground (back then) tk kemang, and to realize that he, yup he himself, alone, caused a whopping 34% swing in favor of pakatan,..... wow, that's a gigantic no-fear show of anger, hatred and discontentment towards mr shorty and what he did and what he represented!

but of course the country's so-called leader didnt seem to deeply understand or simply couldnt relate to the deep sentiment that reverberated amongst the masses, that the good people of malaysia abhor and reject outright corruption, even if some so-called important people went to great lengths to get it rebranded as a mellowed-down term 'politik wang'! (and even classified it, luckily not fatwa-ed it, as 'nothing wrong' ie. halal albeit unethical!), and this seemingly daft leader went ahead to pick mr shorty right at his doorstep and chauffeured him in a stretched limo and ushered him on a red carpet, to a huge post of helming a treasure trove reportedly worth rm10b! what??! entrusting the very man caught in not so distant years with his hand in the cookie jar??? wow, probably haji najib must really have a huge faith that mr shorty has totally repented!

or is it because the haji is indebted to mr shorty and, trust or not, this is one way of 'you help me very big, i'll help you back big'? or maybe the haji simply brushes aside any notion that the huge swing of 08 in tk kemang was in fact the masses show of rejection towards any form of corruption, but rather the haji feels that the swing was purely internal, caused by u-bn supporters themselves who weren't pleased with mr shorty as the state's leader any longer, thus by now, come ge13, that mr shorty is guaranteed to have no more role in high-level politics (now that he has a new post, similar to situations where u-bn politicians are given posts like ambassadors etc - najib's buddy anak jarjis, samy, musa hitam, all have gone through that) that swing would be totally gone and tk kemang would be safely back in u-bn's hands?

er, or maybe mr shorty is purposely put in that position by the haji in the twisted hope that mr money lover would one day trip and fall under the tremendous temptation of the billions right under his nose, then that day would spell 'freedom!' to the haji, free at last from any possible attempt at blackmail???

if that's the case, it'd be a real sad day for the 30mil citizen, a haji buying his own freedom at the expense of the nation's coffers!

but i hope the majority of the voters do not easily forget, and do not easily forgive, and wholly understand, that while mr shorty may no longer be a candidate, but u-bn's twisted ways of administrating the nation and its wealth, our wealth, are still here, dulu kini dan selamanya, (if rebranding corruption as 'politik wang' thus ruling it as non-criminal, is not twisted adminstration, i cant say much anymore!) and therefore the swing should be maintained in ge13, even increased, and let's together kick u-bn's asses out of tk kemang, out of putrajaya and out of every state administrative capital from perlis right to sabah!

abu! and selamat bersahur

-average joe-
klakka-la.blogspot

bruno,  5 August 2012 at 05:35  

Many thanks to Sak's supporters for having my back too.

There is a lot of difference between Umno bloggers/supporters and Pakatan bloggers/supporters.

1)Most Umno bloggers are paid bloggers.Therefore most of them are sloppy and blog with their heels instead of using their heads and are ineffective.And they are rumoured to number in the tens of thousands.Maybe their huge numbers will make them think that they are smart.But actually they have the tongkat,crutches and wheelchair mentality.So their followers and supporters follow suit.

2)Most if not all of Pakatan bloggers are unpaid bloggers.As volunteer bloggers their time are free.And they do not number in the tens of thousands.They do it for a cause.To have the corrupted Umnoputras and lappies chased out of Putrajaya.Therefore Pakatan bloggers are more likely to blog better,using their heads instead of their heels to have more effect.And so do their supporters.

And the only time the Pakatan bloggers and supporters know that they have the upperhand,and their messages are getting through is when the ants start coming out of the woodworks in droves.

Anonymous,  5 August 2012 at 08:16  

Bruno : As volunteer bloggers their time are free. And they do not number in the tens of thousands.They do it for a cause. To have the corrupted Umnoputras and lappies chased out of Putrajaya.

Yes, Bruno is superb, he is a true loyal supporter of Sak, despite his own work, he doesn't have to do it but he did.

i recognized your efforts in referring to the above. And as Pakatan volunteer bloggers are few, how could we not support you and Sak and stay more united and stronger backing up shoulder to shoulder as the going gets tough.

"I see, this is interesting." Thank you for sharing it.

If Pakatan bloggers' messages get thru, the umno ants will scurry out from their ant-holes in droves for their survival.

Anonymous,  5 August 2012 at 08:48  

A.J August5 August 2012 01:06

Years ago in another country, while we were discussing men who changed the world, a friend from Pakistan once commented,"Napoleon was a dwarf physically, Deng Xiao Ping was also one, and look at how they brought changes to their country." And my friend, who was unusually short for a wheat-chomping Baluchi, added,"We both have short frame - the best is yet to come for both our countries." We laughed for days.

Hope this shorty has some tricks for all of us. Ha Ha

OneMalaysian,  5 August 2012 at 11:35  

Dear Sakmongkol

These tables that you construct on probable parliamentary election outcomes are interesting, but I suspect they won’t quite turn out like that. Everyone knows that each racial group will vote quite differently compared to 2008.

In 2008, perhaps 70% of the Chinese voted for PR. This time there is a further swing in that direction. It would be safe to forecast that the Chinese will vote 80-85% in favour of PR. That’s a swing of 14-21% based on 2008. The Chinese vote is solid as far as I can tell.

The Indian vote is harder to predict. The “Thaipusam effect” seems to be wearing off a bit. (Remember Najib wearing the dhoti to Batu Caves?) So the Indian vote of 70% in 2008 has gone to 50% some months ago and may be up to 55% now because of Ambiga. Here I am merely guessing. But my intention is to show that big swings are in play, and not always in favour of PR.

As for the Malay vote, you would know this better than most. But it would be safe to acknowledge 3 key factors. One, the vote buying must have had some effect in the rural areas especially in Felda estates/towns. RM15,000 buys some loyalty, at least for a while. Two, the Malays might have felt that they over did the UMNO punishment in 2008 so a small percentage might vote UMNO again. Three, the urban and young Malays are likely to show their disapproval of UMNO/BN in the urban/suburban areas, but really this will hardly make a difference because urban seats are bastions of solid support for PR any way.

The other “known unknown” is how the postal, army, police and “instant Malaysian” votes will affect some seats. These 300,000 -400,000 votes will not be deployed in urban seats because they will be wasted against an anti-BN tide and won’t make a difference. However, they can affect outcomes in marginal seats where UMNO/BN will get say 48-49% of the votes, so throwing in some of these extra ballots will turn a marginal loss into a marginal gain. They will of course be used in such seats as Pekan and Pagoh to ensure the sacred cows are re-elected comfortably, or used in places like Lembah Pantai to try knocking out big-name PR candidates.

So with all this, it would be more informative is each parliamentary constituency is subject to such influencing factors and then see how the results pan out. There will be no general 3% or 7% swing in all seats, but each one computed with the most probable assumptions. The results might look quite different from what you have forecast so far.

Anonymous,  5 August 2012 at 15:06  

i also feel the same with what onemalaysian commented, at least to some extent. i feel that pakatan should appoint specific persons to do a more comprehensive and detailed analysis to tackle each constituency taking the fullest account of its own respective deciding factors which could vary somewhat considerably from one another. we cannot be lazy, or be too cocky or too comfortable thinking the world is all for pakatan. dont forget that those millions and billions and 50ringgits dropped from the sky, heck even kain sarong/pelikats, have some strange effects on some otherwise normal citizen.

yup, we cant generalize. get in-depth, not just splash it nonchalantly across the board - that is the standard (and popular) modus operandi of u-bn dulu kini dan selamanya, their cocky brain thought of something they felt was a brilliant idea, and every single person in this country had to adhere to that even though what the bloody politician came up with was not even applicable to some of us!

i hope when pakatan do hold power, they dont follow suit with this type of leadership who are blind to the variety of people, characters, needs and conditions. apply and implement accordingly, not take the easy and lazy way of having one prescription suits all...

er i dont mean that's what sakmongkol is doing here in his series of analysis. but as onemalaysian said, i believe a more focused case-by-case study would be of more help to pakatan's cause, the better we diagnose each problem the better solution we can all chip in wherever possible, and by God we are all here to see that all the efforts come to their fruition and the cause we all fight for come out victorious over leadership that is mangled with cruelty dishonesty and inefficiency...

abu! may God bless us insya Allah

-average joe-
klakka-la.blogspot

average joe 5 August 2012 at 15:20  

Anon 5 August 2012 08:48

"Baluchi"???

shorty pulling tricks against his master???

hmmmmm...

klakka-la.blogspot

Anonymous,  5 August 2012 at 18:05  

Sak & bloggers,

PK, TI, must ensure they are most vigilant now, during and after GE 13 that illegal immigrants could be used to cause riots to us ! They entered illegally without being detected, they could also smuggle in arms to cause riots, and leave without trials ! Need to sit up thinking about this intelligence to escalate the pressure on Najib, Hishamuddin, the Home Ministry.

Anonymous,  5 August 2012 at 22:41  

average joe:5 August 2012 15:20

Baluchis, more accurately, Balochs of Balochistan. Another one of the many ethnic groups found in Pakistan. Like the rest, generally tall, tough and hardy like the rest.

Anonymous,  6 August 2012 at 12:22  

I am thinking of Rosmah mansor becoming the MB of N9.

God, please make it happen!!

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