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Saturday 2 April 2011

Smut video: call in 3rd party experts.

In my opinion, there are 2 issues to the airing of the smut video. We must separate the issues. One is a possible criminal offense of airing for public viewing, pornographic material. It must be in contravention of some act.
If it is an offense, the people behind the airing of the video must be punished. It doesn't exonerate the sponsors by claiming they wanted to just show to one or two persons, but so many turn up. This is the egg shell skull rule perhaps. Having made the bed, you now lie on it? If the people sponsoring or showing pornographic material do so in contravention of a criminal offense, then they must be arrested, charged or whatever.  The patriotic motives claimed are irrelevant.
If they are charged, fined or whatever, that is the price they pay for wanting to bring out the truth.
But more important, I think we should not misdirect ourselves from appreciating the offence of airing the smut video is less important than wanting to establish the identity of the actors in the video.
Surely Anwar Ibrahim, the person alleged to be the male actor wants to clear his name and  IF he can prove that it is not him; he will have in his possession, the most lethal katyusha rocket to blast Najib out of Putrajaya. On the other hand if his adversaries can clinically and factually establish that he is the actor, that will be the end of him.
Those who went there to see must also be liable to some criminal offence. The editors from several MSM, Star and NST who were there must be held accountable. If someone were to categorize the airing of the smut video as an act of heroism, his/her head needs to be examined. Does one show one is patriotic by promoting smut video? Therefore one is heroic?
UMNO people don't have to get involved in this. Rahim Thamby Chik and Shuib Lazim do the thing they did on their own accord. UMNO has distanced itself from the actions of these individuals. They have said they have nothing to do with the video. They have said so and whether people believed them or not, is not a problem. UMNO can't do anything to people who don't believe them anyway.
Now that the Police are already involved, let's urge the Police to establish the identity of the persons in the video- both the male and the female. We now urge the police to call in expert witnesses such as from the FBI or Scotland Yard. Let 3rd parties do the forensics. This way, the Malaysian Police can save themselves from the ignominy of being accused of conspiring to persecute a particular person. Take away the thunder from whoever is accused of being the actor. Avoid being accused as a bully.
The main issue is to identity of the male actor. Now that a video has been shown, surely those who have interests in that video have standing to defend it. They do so by making a police report. Anwar Ibrahim is the person alleged to be the male actor. So in the interest of defending his honor, he has made a police report.
Making a police report is one thing. Getting to the root of the issue is another thing. He has probably lodged a report against the 3 people who sponsored the airing of the video by claiming a variety of offences. I hope he is successful. If he is, we are still left with the issue of is it him or is it not him? Has he made a report urging the Police to conduct an investigation to identify the actors in the video? What is the nature of his report? Report against the 3 people? Report urging the Police to conduct an investigation to clear his name?
There seems to be only one way to verify the identity. Call in the best experts in this particular field from FBI or Scotland Yard. The Malaysian Police may want to do this. It will be done by a 3rd party whose credentials are beyond reproach. In that way, the Police can steer away from being accused of tampering with evidence and other cock and bull accusations. Anwar should welcome a forensic detailing by 3rd party independents. Otherwise, ask him to bring in his own experts and let the people judge his intentions.
After that, the findings by 3rd party expert witnesses can be handed to a Royal Commission of Inquiry. Bring it before Parliament and ask the opposition to nominate who they wish to be on the commission. That way, the government washes its hands off the smut video issue.
Politically, this smut video is a god send for UMNO. Provided it handles this properly. Handling it properly means don't get involve at all. Let the police do their work. Support the calls to bring in the best experts in the world. Pass on the findings of the experts to the RCI. Get opposition MPs to nominate from their ranks, members of the RCI.

50 comments:

Anonymous,  2 April 2011 at 23:34  

Good suggestion Dato'.

We are not saying it is a bad idea. Now that the issue has its spot in the public domain, there is perhaps a need to paint and inject some air of bureaucracy so that things get palatable. For an event so unsavory.

Regretfully, (I am lost for more adverbs to impart here), the annals of Malaysian history will have to contend with an RCI being set up to investigate a smut video!?!

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 00:15  

how do you explain when Datuk T met premier Najib in Parliament prior to them showing the clip in Carcosa Seri Negara to the journalists, as claimed by almost all the opposition media ?

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 03:09  

at stake would be the government and the police if they continue to observe justice.The last GE loss was an issue of credibility.It's going to happen again.When you out idiots in power, this is what you get.UMNO needs more people like you, Dato.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 07:25  

Dato',

Comparing with what you wrote in "Did Anwar engineer the smut video?" and this article here, I just do not know what you are trying to prove.
One thing is sure: You are anti-Anwar.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 07:29  

Haha another extended day for April Fool's Day.. What a joke!

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 08:02  

Dato Sak
what is the purpose for authenticating the 'actors' in the smut movie? Look at the Lingam case, what happened there? Did the police/government call in the FBI, Scotland Yard, NOTHING!! There cannot be double standards, the Lingam case was far more explosive and 'dirty' in its repercussions.
What is the crime in the smut video?
Not the participants having sex surely. Why waste public money to identify and prove whether it is that man or not?
Ron 97 has gone up, use the public funds worthily to prevent Ron95 going up!
YES it is an offence under our laws for distributing and showing smut movies, so we are all waiting with bated breath and impatience to see whether the 3 UNWISE MEN are arrested and charged accordingly. And did they meet the PM prior to the showing?
Let's be very clear here on what is the offense and the law.

Michael,  3 April 2011 at 08:27  

How big is that 'crime' of having sex so much so that it threatens national security and warrants RCI? And the priority is to identify the person caught having sex?
No arrest of the sex video owners? So now Everyone Can Watch Porn with friends... as long as we 'suspect that the guy in the video is Anwar' is it?
We have bigger issues that the government is not laying a finger on, turning a blind eye to... Lingam tape, PKFA, Sarawak reports, racial bigots.
This kind of selective persecution is disgusting. Reflective of a sick mentality.
Sorry to say, Dato, your mind is as small as UMNO's. Please look at the bigger picture.

Ariff Sabri 3 April 2011 at 08:41  

michael,

by your reasoning, Anwar wouldn't have problems if the actor is him right? its not a crime like you say. maybe it isn't.
the objective is to kill of anwar politically. nothing personal, just business.
the interest of his political enemies is that. His interest is to defend his honour. let 3rd party do the invetsigation. arent you interested to find out?
anon 07:25
so, if i am anti anwar? must everybody like him? you must accept not everyone is for Anwar.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 08:44  

Whether it is him or not is not important. As a man it is up to him if he wants to let go tension by going to find a china doll after office hours. It is between him and his wife issue.
Can you name one UMNO politician that is very HOLY and never got involve in sex and liquor???
Don't talk nonsense here lah!!
WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS WHETHER HE CAN RUN THE COUNTRY EFFICIENTLY OR NOT IF HE IS THE LEADER.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 09:20  

Dato' why should Anwar proves that he is not the man in the video?
He has made a police report and the police out of stupidity merely identify that the video is authentic! What a bullshit and an effort to spin!
What a reasoning! Real problem with UMNO out there same mentality!
Fitnah sebegini lah yang akan menghancurkan orang Melayu-disgusting!
Bet you if this is not stop then very soon there will be many video clips of the same kind and you know it is so easy to do it and don't be surprise who the main actor going to be-can be any one at the corridor of powers.
Wake up! pemimpin Islam Melayu!

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 09:41  

"Otherwise, ask him to bring in his own experts and let the people judge his intentions. " AK47

Your writings are moving from the sublime to the ridiculous to the bizarre.
Why on earth would you want someone to prove his innocence?
If another 18 videos crop up, does it mean Anwar has to prove he is innocent in all these?

Nay, why is there a need to determine the male actor in the first place?
No crime is committed and there is no need to spend tax payers money on this smut.

Only a dumb fool will believe that UMNO is not involved in this gutter politics which is UMNO's inbred culture.
The police is working in cahoot with UMNO and that's why the trio are walking press and making press statements.

OneMalaysian,  3 April 2011 at 10:14  

Dear Sakmongkol

“Handling it properly means (UMNO) don't get involve at all. Let the police do their work”.

Let us get a few things straight. Exposing the peccadilloes of opposition politicians, even its leader, by those who are prominent members or supporters of the ruling party cannot be called patriotic. They are merely furthering their political self-interest.

Secondly, how politics is practised indicates how this country is governed. The confident and public manner in which Datuk T made and exposed the smut video, inviting the press to view it, and conducting a press conference without attempting to hide their identity showed that they were unafraid of the law. They knew they wouldn’t be arrested or charged. And so far the Police have done just that.

The identity of the actor in that video ought to be established by an independent party. The law should then be applied when the facts are established.

However, what is already a fact is that Datuk T were involved in making and exhibiting smut material. The law must first be applied to them – arrest and charge them now. It does not need to wait until the identity of the actor has been made. Two different crimes are involved here. The fact that this is not done shows the partiality of the Police, and the protection that UMNO and the government are giving to Datuk T. The fact that they are prepared to condone criminal acts or shelter criminals if it helps to bring down their political opponents do not speak well for the future of politics. And the partiality of the Police should worry Malaysians who do not support the ruling party.

Make no mistake. Unlawful acts done by anyone of whatever public standing should never be condoned. But the illegal and immoral acts of individuals are not as damaging to society as the partiality of the Police in upholding the law. It directly undermines the public’s confidence in one of the most important institutions of government. And the connivance of the government in all this is certainly much worse than the individual acts of immorality of the individual involved. The law should never distinguish between individuals, that is, it can be withheld or applied depending on the status of that individual.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 10:28  

The law must take its own course and everybody must be treated fairly and equally under the eyes of the law.

Under our law, the Police must charge the 3 stooges for possession and for exhibiting to certain members of the public the pornographic materials. That is the law irrespective whether the tape is authentic or not or whether the actors featured in the tape is Anwar or not.

If investigation shows that Anwar is the person featured in the tape, then he has committed an offence u/d s.377 Penal Code. But since Chuah Soi Lek was not charged for committing a similar offence of oral sex,a s.377 offence, then to be fair to Anwar, he shld also not be charged. However the police must charge him for lodging a false police rpt since he claimed that he was not the person featured in the tape and investigation showed otherwise.

On the other hand, if police investigation showed that Anwar is not the person featured in the tape, then the police must press additional charges against the 3 stooges for criminal defamation.

That is how the law should takes its course. But the Police is also playing politics. The IGP had only declared after investigation, that the tape is authentic but he refused to state that Anwar was not the man featured in the tape although by now investigation had conclusively proven that. On the other hand if evidences uncovered showed that Anwar was the man, I am sure the IGP would have without much hesitation announce it to the whole world.

Since the investigation has taken a
political undertone, I suspect the Police and AG Chambers will only decide whether to prosecute or not the 3 stooges after the S'wak State's Election. In the meantime, they perpetuate the lingering suspicions amongst the public that the man featured in the tape is Anwar, when they knew otherwise. It is always political manoeuvring in order to help Umno/BN to defeat their opponents.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 10:39  

Salam Dato,

I'm sure if that person so truly Anwar Ibrahim or leaders from the opposition this case will not drag this far.

The mainstream medias and umno pro bloggers will make havoc and fool of themselves with this stupid kind of story non stop till the end of the world. These people are not god fearing people. Money and power are seemingly god to them.

And you still put hope that they care to get 3rd party experts? in your nightmare, Sir..

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 10:59  

It is obvious that the man in the said video was not AI.
If it was AI, I bet the video will be available in pasar malam , world wide web and distributed widely throughout the whole country.
The persons behind it will want to inflict maximum damage to AI and there won't be any 1 week ultimatum for AI and his wife to retire from politics!
Do you seriously think they want to have some mercy on AI ?

It will be like Chua Soiled Legs sex video .

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 11:29  

Why should we call in foreign experts? If our police can handle this matter on their own why the need for foreign experts? Its about time we trust our police. Has Scotland Yard or the FBI ever seek our help where they can do things on their own? If some idiots here dont trust our police its their problem. If your wife is raped dont call the police.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 11:32  

"Report urging the Police to conduct an investigation to clear his name?"

Are you kidding Dato'? Expect the Police to conduct a 'fair' investigation to clear his name? Which planet have you been to for the last several years?

Are we interested to know who the actor is? Yes, but not as much as our interest to know why leaders who robbed our hard-earned money to enrich themselves and their cronies continue to get away with it. Not as much as our interest to get the Police, MACC, MSMs, judiciary etc. to be fair to ALL of us and stop protecting the culprits etc. etc.

We look at people like you to give these issues more prominence, not extending your hand to perpetuate this smut politics to distract the rakyat from more pressing issues.

Come on Dato', you are better than these UMNO scoundrels!!!

- Disillusion -

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 11:33  

RCI? After Lingam case, you still have faith in RCIs?

samsaimon,  3 April 2011 at 11:47  

What have you got to say about the three meeting Najib at Parliment House ? Why do you skipped this ? It shows UMNO involved! You UMNO Dunggu!

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 11:49  

Umno distance itself? Great. But who are the ones responsible for it. UMNO and crony related? Yes.

It is just like Perkasa. They are not involved in it. Yet most are UMNO members . One Youth Chief even wanted to join UMNO.

The public knows what is happening. End of Anwar? Not really. He gets our simpathy even if he did it (which we do not know for sure yet). To us, he does what many of us around did once in a while. So what is the big deal .. to those so called "holy Angels"?

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 11:54  

Dato,

I was made to understand that Najib was consulted and informed prior to the show at Carcosa. If this is so, the trio is protected and will not be charged. That's the reason why the trio were daring to publicise the smut video and are still roaming free. Pls check whether this info is correct.

MeorUSA,  3 April 2011 at 12:42  

it is unbelievable that peoples who over the years has been around him ,whatever estates you belong, chose to treat these as misdemeanor or don't "hear and see" nothing.
How much stakes do you have in this meat or the agenda he manifest or are you sexually active like him.?
Or really none of the above?.
Who is the winner or loser if annuar won't be leading the opposites?.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 12:48  

Sak,

Why not a single person from the datuk Trio and MSM have been arrested yet for either possession, distributing, showing or viewing the pornographic video? Why is the PDRM still investigating and not put the above people in jail yet? Why don't the Home Minister direct the PDRM to arrest the above people while the PDRM investigations are still on going? Instead what we are seeing are double standards being practiced so openly by the BN government. Those that are politically aligned to the BN government are treated with glove hands whilst those on the opposition are on the receiving ends. Whether or not the actor in the pornographic is Anwar is still to be determined but the datuk Trio and MSM audience are already determined publicly for possession, distributing, showing and viewing porn material. Arrest them if the BN government wants to show the malaysian public that the government is fair and unbiased.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 13:16  

another good suggestion of yours that will not get beyond the pages of your blog....

can't you see the complicity that is there for all to see and therefore why the right things cannot be done once again.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 13:23  

Dato'

Regardless of the Outcome of whatever regarding the Smut Video Tamby Affair, What's Obvious is that UMNO is on the Path to Creating a Climate of Fear and Disdain for the Opposition.

Whether this is going to be successful or not remains to be seen, for a Salesman to Badmouth the opposition's products can cast suspicions on the salesman himself.....




Joe Black

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 13:34  

Don't you think everyone is wasting their time? What crime can they charge the man in the video for, no matter who he is? Taking part in oral intercourse? If they want to charge the man for this, they will have to charge the infamous Dr from MCA first as he has already admitted to this. If they don't charge that Dr, then what is the purpose of this so-called investigation on the latest video? Also they have to find the man first. Have they found him? This is really Bolehland way of doing things. People expect more intelligence from police.

Sex scandals have not harmed Bill Clinton, Berlusconi and Najib's political careers. So how can this latest unproved sex video harm the Opposition leader's career? It is a desperate exercise in futility. And the law has been broken by those sceening it. They must answer.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 15:07  

Dato Sak,

Why is Anwar alone on public trial!

To be fair a RCI should be conducted on Anwar/Wan Azizah for the smut video and on Najib/Rosmah for Altantuya's death.

What say you ?

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 15:07  

This another piece of OTAK UDANG umno. Its not anwar to prove but the KPN Nazri has just made it sound clear that having and viewing such pornographic material is legal. Sekolah saja tinggi tapi akai tak dak??

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 15:35  

Dato,

To be fair, let us also have a RCI on Bala's 2 statutory declaration in the Altantuya case. If finding the truth is the objective , we cannot have double standards when it involve DSAI. Setuju? or Najib takut?

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 15:42  

This is sheer and total absence of grey matter. The police spending precious taxpayers' money to "investigate" a nuisance smut video for which there is no indictable offence in its contents. And pro-Umno groups clamouring for a "royal commission of inquiry" on this mosquito affair.

Why stupid? Firstly because, believe me, they will never identify or find the man in the so-called smut video. Take a bet.

Secondly, the only "crime" they can charge the man with even if they find him is "participation in oral intercourse".

Thirdly, they cannot charge this man for this "crime", because if they want to do so they will first have to charge Chua Soiled Leg of MCA first. I dont think they will do this.

So what is the purpose of this "investigation" and this call for RCI?

Perhaps they want find the woman in the video and charge her under syariah law. Then she will be caned.

But first prosecute those who show porn in public and cane them first.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 16:55  

personally i think Dato Sak is fair here. i thought Anwar should also welcome this. hear me out. if all this porno thing turns out to be untrue, Anwar will score some serious political points notwithstanding how UMNO's stand is on this. UMNO can't escape from the fact that their hands can be seen everywhere. and the next sordid expose will just get a casual dismissal from me thats for sure.

donplaypuks 3 April 2011 at 17:07  

Firstly, the Govt of PM Najib has totally disregarded the findings of TQO RCI's (IPCMC and Limgamgate) which is a slap in the face for our King and democratic, accountable role of Government.

So, any clamour for an RCI vis-a-vis Anwar would clearly be selective persecution.

This is compounded by the fact that in the case of Altantuya's murder, there was no call from UMNO and Dato T for an RCI to determine the possible role of PM and fly. to clear themselves from all sorts of allegations of involvement.

Or to determine who gave the orders to off her when our so called guardians, the police and AG seeemed to have no will power to investigate not only the murder, but those who used gruesome C4 explosives, erased immigration records and paid $500 million thin disguised commissions as facilitation and support fees!!??

Are we saying murder is a lesser crime than the private sexual wanderings and peccadilloes of would-be PM's?

By law, no one is required to prove his innocence first and our Constitution and role of Governmeny must not be allowed to be subverted by political chicanery and machinations.

If we start demandind Anwar prove his innocence first, there will be no end to it in other prosecutions in our already tainted courts of law.

dpp
we are all of 1 Race, the Human Race

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 17:15  

Dato'

Najib's Announcement that he only intends to get the Truth of the Video Smut Issue Sounds Hollow!!

How about getting to the Truth of the Altantuya Case by Putting Razak Baginda on the Stand..... The guy is now enjoying life in the UK and not having to testify, despite admitting to be intimate with the poor girl!!




Joe Black

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 17:21  

Dato,

I am surprised that you have not called for the police to arrest the 3 stooges who had already admitted they were behind the porn video viz a viz possession and showing the contents to a participating audience comprising the MSM. These 3 stooges and the eager audience have committed a crime and yet the police are keeping mum. Your UMNO brethrens are also silent on the crime committed. Why? Is it because the 3 stooges are protected by UMNO?

Ariff Sabri 3 April 2011 at 17:32  

anon 17:21

i the otak udang wrote:-

If the people sponsoring or showing pornographic material do so in contravention of a criminal offense, then they must be arrested, charged or whatever.

in my earlier posts, i called for the arrest of the 3 people.

Quiet Despair,  3 April 2011 at 17:48  

Yes the police have declared the video is authentic.
So the onus is on Saddle King to proof it is not him in the video.
Or be a man like CSL and admit that it's him. He will earn our respect, some.
But never my love.
CSL became MCA president after that. And Anwar lovers can still believe in him and prop him to be PM of Malaysia.
Don't waste our money calling for 3rd party experts like Scotland Yard, or FBI or any forensic specialists.
We will be falling for his trap. That's what he wants. Then he can bide for time and deflect and divert our attention from his misdeeds.
Hd will keep the issue burning and alive to sustain him in his campaign for the GE.
He's got no points to convince the people he is PM material.
That fella will not cooperate. It will becme another like his sodomy case. Delay, delay with much resources and valuable court time gone down the drain.
It will be like Teh Beng Huat's case which the opposition is using to the hilt to win the next GE.
It's good that Najib and UMNO just ignore this smut video issue and move on to transform the nation.
Our leaders must not lose sight of working for the nation and be the victor in the coming GE.
Let that fella solve his own dilemma.
Don't try to twist it around and blame the Datuk T like what Karpal is doing.
He can expose Vijay MIC but Datuk T cannot. Don't fall for that parliamentary immunity crap from him.
As far as the people is concerned it is Anwar they think is the porn star.
It will indeed dent his image as the messiah.
So him and him alone should clear his image.
The police have done their job and must not be used by him to establish his innocence.
I think Datuk T has succeeded in spreading the message that Anwar is not to be trusted as a Muslim leader with good Islamic morals.
Damage has been done. So we moved on. Tired of this fellow already.
We leave him to God.
Rest assured ordinary Malaysians know who and which party is the best to lead the nation.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 18:03  

Sakmongkol..why is it so necessary for Anwar to cleanse himself from this allegation? He is now already trying to clean himself from sodomy 2 and now he also have to cleanse himself from this latest episode. Why does he have to spend the rest of his human live just to cleanse himself everytime someone accusses him of such a thing? Why? Is he not entitled to a normal life like everyone else? Don't you think the onus is for the perpetrators to come up with foolproof evidence to implicate him rather than based on sketchy evidence and then bring people from all over the world just to prove a point. Does Malaysia have nothing else better to do?

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 19:23  

In the history of the police force during and post Dr. M administration we've not had a more weaker KPN that what we have now.

With all due respect to his role and position in the country's administration, the rakyat , I think have so much hope on this humble person in the name of Tan Sri Ismail Omar to apply the laws of the country without fear or favor in accordance to the oath he had taken in the presence of His Majesty The King.

More is at stake here for the Nation.

Laws haphazardly interpreted and applied means only one thing for the foreign and local business and investor community...Time to pack up and leave.

So, as the politicians from UMNO are beyond reproach already exception maybe when the rakyat realizes they've been shortchanged, this issue isn't a predicament for DSAI alone, the good Tan Sri Ismail Omar position and influence over the way the police force will be managed over the course of his tenure will also be affected.

nahraf 3 April 2011 at 19:41  

Come on la Datuk Sak, this is a case of "a boy who cried wolf too many times", people just don't want to believe anymore, it is fortunate that Anwar is not sidetracked by this video, currently he is in the interior of Sarawak campaigning.

Maybe one of the objective of this video is to distract PR on Sarawak election???

Why majority of the Umno bloggers keep screaming about this video?, why not focus on Sarawak elections, why no support on BN Sarawak? which is much more important, don't they know there is a deep rumbling of anger and disgust for the BN strongman there, now is the time for the BN bloggers to defend Taib Mahmud!

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 20:30  

Dato, forget about RCI, forget about the wayang kulit. This is all so obvious a political assasination. Don't tell me the UMNO politicians have never procure sex services in Malaysia or overseas. Why is this so different from the UMNO guys?

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 20:39  

anon 16:55..

We should rise above this. Should Anwar or we in general play along to this disgusting tune every time someone comes up with trash like this. If the PM and Cabinet members have any integrity in them, they should strongly condemn this kind of politic. As it is, it seems like they are condoning it, so cant blame us for thinking they are behind it.

Anonymous,  3 April 2011 at 23:13  

Did the police prosecute CHUA SOI LEK over his infamous sex video? Why is the police investigating Anwar Ibrahim video? Is that not double standard? Is UMNO truly not involved? Are we that dumb to believe UMNO is not involved?

Anonymous,  4 April 2011 at 00:13  

Not likely the BN government wants to release the investigation to any third party. They do not want to loose control of the situation, particularly if the findings are not in UMNO's favor.

Quiet Despair,  4 April 2011 at 08:52  

So we are all agreed that the video is authentic and that certain male is the porn star.
Mak Chik Temah in Felda LBJ Negeri Sembilan, Mbah Timban of Pulau Carey Orang Asli Settlement and Jinggut Jingga of Kelabit Long House all know that's him, long before you do.
Satu Malaya dah tahu dan percaya dialah tu.
But you still are not perturbed by the saint in that tiger show. You think it's not wrong.
You are only incensed with the Datuk T who are the purveyors of the video.
And that omega watch has not told the story yet. That man is no ordinary paunch guy who visited the China doll for some pleasures.
He is a Mr somebody who wore a gold Omega with a crest from an Arab kingdom.
No need for professional experts to verify who was the man.
Now Karpal wants the video to be screened in Parliament House as it is immunity ground.
I can bet all BN MPs will say its him and all PKR with the exception of PAS YBs will deny it.
Don't you guys wonder what is the motive of Karpal in wanting the YBs to see such smut.
Will Wan Azizah and hubby want to see it since they are good people who do not watch blue movies.

Anonymous,  4 April 2011 at 13:15  

Mr. QD...

Have U watch the Dato' T movie premier?

If Not!! Just keep quite and do not speculate it. It sounded stupid for people who talk, but cannot walk with his talk..let's forget about it.

The IGP should tell the people that Dato T are free under the police bail..and case closed. ..Why we need to punished them now, we wait until the case finding and Anwar can sue them if it not true...ha ha ha.

I'm totaly agreed to call the 3rd party. It does not mean FBI or Scotland yard. It can be from other cheeper souce but accountable... Reason??..many people not trusted our PDRM, simple as that..ha ha ha.

PDRM should work hard to make people trust them, but how? Let The IGP, knock his head and think..that what U are paid for..ha ha ha.

Anonymous,  4 April 2011 at 14:28  

Dato,

Let polis do their work? Boleh percaya pada polis? Boleh percaya pada RCI? Yg bermasalah adalah manusia yg lebih besar kuasanya dari Polis dan RCI.

Apa kesudahan episod Linggam?

Orang yg paling berkuasa ini sedang tergugat kuasa yg ada dan bakal di heret ke Mahkamah oleh Anwar jika rakyat memberi peluang utk memerintah.

Utk berlaku adil kenapa Dato tidak meminta RCI atau pihak ketiga menyiasat kes Alanthuya dan rasuah@komisen melibat pembunuhan kejam? Video seks vs pembunuhan C4.
Seronok juga jika dapat berkenalan dgn jurukemera dan pengarah vide seks ini. Khabarnya ada 12 episod. Maknanya pengarah dan jurukamera ini memang itulah kerja dia.

Drp: Malu jadi ahli umno

Anonymous,  4 April 2011 at 16:17  

Quiet Despair @08.52,

Your so-called analysis is at best rubbish and at worst, smut. You have not even seen the sex video yourself and you have already made your judgment. This only goes to show that when people have only 1% of a brain, they should keep quiet and despair in silence instead of writing rubbish or smut.

Anonymous,  4 April 2011 at 18:31  

Dato, something for you to ponder to be a smart guy not like those dumbass umno men;

Gua Musang Member of Parliament and former Finance minister Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah has described the latest sex accusation against Anwar Ibrahim as shameful and despicable.

Saying the public would not buy the story following a pornographic clip targeting Anwar released by several UMNO leaders recently, Razaleigh said such acts of humiliating others were neither part of Islamic nor Malay culture.

“I don’t think the people accept this... If we see Anwar’s first case in 1998, the people did not accept. Even after bringing a mattress, pillows, no one believed. I still remember when I made a dialogue session in Gua Musang, the people asked, 'Is this Malay?'

"So shameful,” said Razaleigh as quoted by TV Selangor.

Razaleigh said those behind the clip were indulging in gutter politics and had smeared the image of the country and the Muslim majority.

“Malaysian are generally civilised and have a good culture, why must we follow bad culture?

"What’s the point of doing such despicable thing in public,” he asked.

Authenticity

Meanwhile, PAS Youth chief Nasrudin Hasan Tantawi said the authenticity of the clip was not the issue if the person in the clip was not Anwar as alleged.

His reaction came following a statement by inspector general of police Ismail Omar who said the clip was authentic.

Titiwangsa MP Dr Lo’ Lo Ghazali said she would not accept the IGP’s latest statement because the police had yet to arrest the 'Datuk T' trio, comprising of former Melaka chief minister Abdul Rahim Tamby Chik, businessman Shazryl Eskay Abdullah and Perkasa treasurer Shuib Lazim, who confessed to possessing and screening the porn clip.

“If the party involved in playing the porn clip comes from Pakatan Rakyat leadership, imagine the response of the IGP and the police in general” she quipped. - Malaysia Chronicle

Anonymous,  4 April 2011 at 19:19  

Dato,

Let polis do their work? Boleh percaya pada polis? Boleh percaya pada RCI? Yg bermasalah adalah manusia yg lebih besar kuasanya dari Polis dan RCI.

Apa kesudahan episod Linggam?

Orang yg paling berkuasa ini sedang tergugat kuasa yg ada dan bakal di heret ke Mahkamah oleh Anwar jika rakyat memberi peluang utk memerintah.

Utk berlaku adil kenapa Dato tidak meminta RCI atau pihak ketiga menyiasat kes Alanthuya dan rasuah@komisen melibat pembunuhan kejam? Video seks vs pembunuhan C4.
Seronok juga jika dapat berkenalan dgn jurukemera dan pengarah vide seks ini. Khabarnya ada 12 episod. Maknanya pengarah dan jurukamera ini memang itulah kerja dia.

Drp: Malu jadi ahli umno

Anonymous,  4 April 2011 at 21:13  

Would UMNO government call in FBI or Scotland Yard? I doubt they will do it.

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