the meaning of friendship and loyalty
Thursday, 24 March 2011
There are so many versions of the story about the tryst involving a person resembling Anwar Ibrahim and a China Lady. Johari Abdul the man invited to see the preview of the made in Malaysia movie said the male actor involved vaguely resembled Anwar Ibrahim.
This joker Johari Abdul now has hazy collections. In our country, perhaps that hazy recollection can become clearer in a few days, when his memory is sufficiently jogged by wads of cash. We don't want to talk about him now.
It's Eskay we want to talk of and about. We have often heard the oft repeated advice- don't kill the messenger if the news is bad. We have to make an exception in this case of the video starring 'Anwar' and the China doll. If it's not a crime, we have to lynch that Shazryl Eskay guy, the useless piece of worm.
What happens to the meaning of friendship and loyalty? It's true like de Gaulle says- we have no permanent friends, but permanent interests. People like Eskay is a walking debit and credit Shylock, who eschews friendship and loyalty. Twenty Four Seven. Completely untrustworthy and who can sell even his mother.
Can you believe after having done this odd job for Anwar for so many times, he suddenly has a change in heart, stirred by the pangs of conscience and now thinks in the interests of the nation? Probably what changes are really the sums of money promised to him or some promise of gargantuan rewards yet to be known to us. Don't give us that bull, Eskay.
You have benefited from Anwar for so long and have enjoyed the fruits of that friendship and confidence. All right thinking UMNO leaders who rule the government of the day, should distance themselves from the Eskays of the world. That he chooses to align himself with Rahim Tamby Chik and Shuib Lazim whose house is a palace of sorts in Sungai Petani should be comforting news. Comforting because none of the sitting leaders have anything to do with this Eskay guy. I hope so.
How can you describe Eskay? In fact, how can Anwar describe and regard Eskay- his onetime procurer of sorts and arranger for peculiar services? He must now regard Eskay as a friend with whom he parties together, bring into his home but ends up in bed with Azizah. ( I could have chosen cruder description here. )
What then should anyone in Anwar's shoes do? In the past, a person like Eskay will have his head lobbed off.
It's clear that what the 3 musketeers in pursuit of the noble causes of the realm wanted was- revenge. Rahim TC referred to the order by Anwar the TPM then to resign after having been proven to have had sex with an under aged Portuguese girl. Lim Guan Eng went to prison for that. Rahim is certain; his own trysts were exposed by the dirty works department under the payroll of Anwar. So Rahim waits and waits and formed his own dirty tricks department with Eskay as his major Domo. So, it's not and never about the nation's interest that primarily motivates Rahim- it's his never ending thirst for sweet revenge.
Anwar? When I wrote my previous article, I wasn't aware of this most recent video thing. I stil say- Anwar is a damaged good.
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Don't know what will be the next scandal. It is getting dirtier and dirtier.
Dato',
"Anwar is damaged good". When you thrashed a person, beat him into a pulp and continue kicking and stomping him when he is down writhing on the floor, you have already damaged that person. It does not matter whether the person is guilty or innocent, it matters there must be some form of human decency shown by the captors or abusers of the damaged person. Do we see any of such human decency or are we seeing the animal instincts of the ferocious wild creatures zooming in for the kill?
Simple. Let us look at Cahndra, Ezam, Anwar's private doctor and others. Why do they have changed of heart although being together with Anwar for years and abandoned him? Hutang budi di bawa mati, but after death are you willing go to hell together with him? Your choice!
This 3 jokers thought that they are doing Najib a favour....Quite contrary..'seperti tikus cuba membaiki labu,
Labuuuu, labuuuu...ish.ish..
Dear Dato,
As I read your piece and ponder over other matters of concern, I sometimes have this ugly feeling that those in power are not really altruistic in keeping the interests of the rakyat. Issue after issue, I ask: what good does this do to the people?
Why are you so riled up with Johari? He has said the porn actor was not Anwar. Or you are angry because he said that? You like all those dirty Umno leaders are expecting it to be Anwar.
Anwar? damaged goods? BN leaders esp Umno are running scared of him. They come up with this stupid sex video. I think the sex scandals of Najib if one dare to expose it is far worse than Anwar. Ask him when he was Education Minister..has he ever screwed school girls. If he denies..ask him to take the 'sumpah laknat' similar to the one he took when cornered with allegations of his sexual tryst with Altantuya.
Eskay..is a pimp Dato. He was caught in the video. What was he doing there when this 'Anwar' is bonking.
This episode shows the low down characteristics of Umno's Datuks and Tan Sri. Rahim bonked an underaged malay girl. The grandmother Pendek had to run to Lim Guan Eng to seek justice. Why? Umno leaders is so scared of a rapist. The portuguese girl he bonked was settled out of court when Karpal took her case. Rahim is a sex maniac Tan Sri. You find them in Umno.
anon 09:47.
i am just throwing caution to the air. you are not alarmed , that good. what if in a few days, Johari changed his story?
i talked about the meaning of loyalty and friendship here. about yr description of these people i agree.
when i say Anwar is a damaged good i say that in the context he has been injured, in the eyes of the rakyat and will likely suffer. that will happen not matter if hes guilty or innocent.
"It's Eskay we want to talk of and about."
When we start talking about parasites & "useless piece of worm" like Eskay, the discussion somehow will also point towards Anwar. Many such parasites and worms were once bred by Anwar himself. These parasites and worms got rich with easy money not by doing real work that benefits society but by their political connections as is presently being illustrated so vividly by Eskay's ongoing civil suit connected with Mahathir's crooked bridge.
When opportunities for getting middleman commissions run out, what's wrong screwing his one time mentor and benefactor for some alternative income?
But don't judge the piece of worm (although piece of shit is a more apt description) too harshly. He's after all only one of Anwar's many past beneficiaries who have screwed him and are still screwing him left, right and centre.
For me the jury is still out on whether nor not Anwar deserves sympathy for getting screwed by so many of his erstwhile proteges and beneficiaries. He trained them to be parasites and worms but left out simple basic lessons on morality, dignity and ethics.
Sak,
Funny you find such trecherous acts among friends especially the malays in UMNO? Anwar would have been better off with a sweet young chinese chick as tea girl instead of Saiful ....No sodomy 2 then!
Even in his PKR he still find his back being screwed ....
Dato Sak,
Johari can't change his story anymore. His pc was video-taped and shown publicly. His demeanor when recounting the meeting with the 3 Dato T shows his honesty and his uneasiness that his uncle Shuaib was involved. PKR has learnt their lesson with that fella Rahimi( Saiful's friend) when he recanted his statutory declaration. Had they shown his video-taped pc pubicly, he would have no reason to disclaim his s/d.
By the way, Pendek the underaged girl whom Rahim had sex had this to say when she was alive: 'The baby boy borned out of Rahim's sexual tryst with her granddaughter had all the similarities and features of Rahim'. The last time Rahim was protected by Mahathir. To charge Rahim for statutory rape is now more easier with this Dna thing. Just get the blood sample of Rahim and the boy. Rahim can't refused since the DNA Act has now been promulgated and enforced. Can you make a public call for the police to reopen the Rahim Thamby Chik rape file?
Dato', You are more willing to choose loyalty to Umno even they had done so much damages to the country? You should be with the people's needs for the future of our generations.
"He must now regard Eskay as a friend with whom he parties together, bring into his home but ends up in bed with Azizah."
Can you explain the above? As I understand from this sentence, it is about sex and swinging with Aziah in the act?
You also seem to suggest that Anwar is the person in the video without having seen it. Or have you?
dato sak,
No matter how you wanna spin it as a personal vendetta, it actually strikes at very tenents of UMNO Baru existence and perjuangan. Hope you publish my take on the issue which l posted to Bro aspan's blog.
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Bro Aspan,
1. Yes, it is about a personal vendetta but the choice of action, the timing, the position of Rahim as an official of his party by being a member of MKT and member of the goverment via post of chairman of Risda also make the whole issue political.Not to say by the next day the jaggenaut of power that be has started rolling to strike the deadliest political blow to Anwar.
Yes it is a personal vendetta but it has drag the party and gomen directly into it. Remember, the rooms at carcosa seri negara were booked under Risda!RAHIM THAMBYCHIK ADALAH PENGERUSI RISDA DAN RISDA ADALAH AGENSI KERAJAAN!!!
2. Rahim bukan ahli biasa UMNO cawangan Kg. Chubadak. Dia bekas ketua pemuda UMNO Malaysia, bekas ketua Menteri dan sekarang ahli MKT- ahli pucuk pimpinan parti peringkat pusat. Mustahil dia tidak tahu dan faham pilihan cara beliau gunakan ini untuk membalas dendam itu akan akan mengheret UMNO dan kerajaan. rahim bukan baru masuk UMNO sehari sebelumnya.
3. Tindakan rahim itu bukan macam kes say, rahim terlanggar ayam ditepi jalan. Ayam itu mati ke tidak, ia tidak memberi sebarang keuntungan atau kerugian kepada UMNO. The acid test dalam soal ini ialah ADAKAH UMNO AKAN MENDAPAT KEUNTUNGAN SEKIRANYA RANCANGAN INI BERJAYA?
kes ini berbeza dengan kes pembunuhan ADUN Gemenceh oleh dato Mokhtar Hashim, seorang menteri kabinet dulu untuk membalas dendam peribadi kerana merosakkan maruah adik( or adikpar?) perempuan beliau. dalam kes ini ia tiada kaitan dengan UMNO apabila acid test diatas diguna.
4. Untuk spin dengan mengatakan tindakan rahim itu adalah adalah tindakan peribadi dan tidak mendapat restu pucuk pimpinan parti dan kerajaan tidak timbul dan tidak boleh diterima akal yang waras by virtue of reasons stated above.
yang jelas tindakannya memberi kesan yang besar kepada imej dan kredibiliti parti dan kerajaan. parti dan kerajaan terpaksa memikul tanggung jawab! UMNO
tak boleh nak cuci tangan as if rahim ini baru sehari sebelum kejadian menjadi ahli biasa UMNO cawangan Kg. Chubadak yang mana yurannya pun dibayar oleh ketua cawangan!
bersambung....
bat8
Salam Dato'
So everyone's can see through the poltical games.
Would UMNO leadership now show higher level morality by taking disciplinary action if not ensuring criminal prosecution against its senior members having transgressed decency laws?
This is what they say, "Don't get mad, get even"?
You are damn wrong to label such a charismatic leader as 'damaged goods'. Remember goods are goods even useful when damaged. But in this instance,you are referring to a human being as damaged goods and I am positive that you aren't right. Well, humans make mistake and I think you deserve that right too. Anyway thats not an issue here. It's the dirty thing UMNO leaders can do,to other people in their quest for something in return, whether it's monetary gains or....they are even willing to do to bring down even their closest friends and a sister going after her own brother and blah, blah blah.
It's clear the video drama is after all just a drama, because there is nothing in it.
This is malay politics. They want power just power. They don't care if their own people suffer in the end. What has UMNO done for the majority of Malays this far. From the days we were given University education with 'biasiswa' they have turned it into PTPTN loans. Thats the UMNO you are fighting for Dato. Shame on you and your UMNO. Whats the price of an average meal today compared before the mamak came to power 30 years ago.The ringgit has shrinked with eve the neighbouring countries. Singapore benefited from UMNO's stupid policies and they are rich and strong today.The water agreement that says, till the there are 'bulan dan bintang ' in the sky the price will be the same. hahahah. I really feel, its time for A CHANGE.Afterall, it's only 5 years. They don't perform, the rakyat kick them out. What we need is the Govt institutions to be strong and follow the law and not FOLLOW THE POLITICIANS WILL.
Get a good actor and a really good make-up artist, we get Sex, umNO Lies and Video ape!
I say friend, you have that steady strong perception of what is right, what is wrong. Some call it God given conscience.
Came across this interesting comment at Malaysiakini:
"If Anwar was actually the man in the video, then there was no need for the cctv video taping. The easiest way to finish him off both politically and personally would have been for a big group of Jabatan Ugama enforcements officers accompanied by police to break down the door, get into the room with many cameras and video cameras clicking away while he was still engaged in the sex act. He would have been caught red-handed then and the only way he could have escaped is if the Chinese looking woman turn out to be his Chinese looking wife Azizah who I believe happens to be an ethnic Chinese. It is so obvious that the entire video is staged using actors."
See how you guys are unduly pummeling Sak about Anwar. Did Sak say anything abut Anwar being guilty?
That's standard fare among Anwar lovers. No matter whether it's wrong or right with Saint Anwar, others are blamed and you start seeing it as UMNO conspiracy.
Saiful was sodomized but Saiful bears the brunt of your anger.
Always fail to see the wood from the trees. Always killing the messenger.
Many Malays especially among the rural population have always regarded Anwar as damaged goods. It's you smarty-pants who are obsessed with him. It's your right to tout him as saviour when others regarded him as destroyer.
He can't even save himself so how can he save us and our beloved nation?
The video sexcapade will not change an iota the perception of conservative Malays on him as damaged - long past his shelf date.
Read carefully Eskay's statement. He stressed he is Anwar's friend and not an UMNO member. He vouch for the authencity of the tape which he stressed he was also featured in the romp.
Now the onus is on Anwar to prove it was not him. Let the Omega watch tell the story. Submit your DNA so that forensic experts can verify it.Bet he he will not do it.
Of course with Anwar there are mysteries. There are two Omega watches - one in meek mousy Aunty Wan's keeping. One with Eskay. Even Sherlock Holmes don't have this kind of puzzle to unravel.
Funny ya suddenly he wants the police to do a thorough probe when he never believed in our men in blue.
Yep indeed the police is fast working on it since it is dear leaders case.
Didn't you wonder how this Anwar insider was living in the US for years and return home to Kedah to start-up a ranch cum meat supplier - Meat Works.
He is also embroiled in the ongoing suit over the crooked bridge.
Your focus was to punish the Datuk Trio. But you conveniently ignore the message that Anwar is not fit to be PM ever.
Rahim Thamby Chik has a point there. He was declared innocent but was forced by Anwar, then the king-maker to resign.
Rahim was an up and coming leader who was a blue-eyed boy of Mahathir. He laid the ground-work for Malacca's progress which is now carried out by Ali Rastam.
Yes, Anwar must resign.
Remember your sins to your friends will always follow you.
Also your friends defined you. You have friend in High places, friend in low places. Friends who can bring you up and bring you down.
Frirnds who will eagerly wait for you when you go down.
The point is Anwar is not well-liked. He's not known to rally behind others. That explains why Ezam, Chandra, Nalla all left him.
He does not have the esprit de corp like UMNO leaders.
When he is in trouble, he wants others to soldier with him. But when his people for example Khalid was in crisis, he left him alone and kept his distance to avoid being tainted.
Its alway about him, him, him and family. Is that a mark of a good leader?
Maybe he has traded his kurta and capal, but his brand of politics is still student leader style of rabble-rousing and picking up a fight.
Politics makes strange bedfellows, they say.
What's important is that for their credibility, PM Najib, his cousin & Home Minister Kerismudin and the police should charge this worthless trio with peddling in porn and whatever else they can. I am sure thye have flouted more than 1 law.
Otw, it will be a fair conclusion they and UMNO were in on the conspiracy as it also seems the Star and some Special Branch police officers were!
dpp
we are all of 1 Race, the Human Race
Dear Sak, you have to stop being an apologist sometime or other preferable sooner rather than later. You who seem to know so much would be infinitely more aware of what your party has evolved to. You of all people should know that it is reaching the point of no return, if not already reached. No strong leader exists or anywhere in sight to redeem the party. That is the current state. They need a major shock like an earthquake of more than 9.0 on the Richter scale so that IF the country still needs the party then it is in a position to rebuild.
In line with the above it is time for another coalition, even if in your exalted opinion it is led by "damaged goods" to be given an opportunity to lead the country. After all if in half a century we cannot lay a claim of having gone anywhere except as a space tourist, its certainly time for a change. Of course we can also lay claim to being racists due to being led by major race based parties. We can also claim to having the world's most amended constitution and twisting of its provisions.
Is this what you want?
I'm bored with all these. It's too dirty. Even non-Islamic countries don't have politics this dirty. Still malays claim they are the better muslims than anyone else. Fact of the matter is that malaysians are just obsessed with sex.
Dato'
Of the Two and the third Tamby...Disgusting.
Disgusting that they claim to be heroes (as Nazri surmises in his don't shoot the messenger poppycock).
Malaysia may not yet be Bankrupt financialy but most certainly Bankrupt Morally and its all about Perangai Orang Melayu.
So what is Melayu Good At???
Joe Black
Personally i feel that YOU too have an ill feeling towards Anwar. Otherwise you won't be so "kurang ajar" by mentioning "... end up in bed with Azizah". Kesian you UMNO people, sampai bini orang pun nak hentam juga.
If the Trio is not charged for distributing and possession of pornographic material, then I feel sorry for UMNO. They are simply not interested to uphold the rule of law whether the video is genuine or not. The fact remains that it is an offence under sec 292 of the Penal Code.
He maybe "damaged good" but he is still fighting, let see what this "damaged good" can do against your beloved UMNO in the future shall we dato?
He maybe damaged, battered, crushed, exhausted and bloodied by multiple uppercuts and hooks of slander, government machinery, judges and police, years of imprisonment and the media propaganda, but he will endure, he will even endure this powerful one two combo punch of sodomy 2 and porn vid which is meant to KO him for good but he will stand his ground without falling, regain his footing and in a split second counterattack,deliver a knockout punch so powerful, it will totally destroy his opponent, mark my word Dato'.
Dato' SAK,
After 3rd plot of sex scandal (of course, it fails miserably) Only one question is in my mind right now...
Why on earth Umno so scared of Anwar?
Why not Lim Kit Siang or Nik Aziz or karpal Singh?
Why Anwar??
Hmm...I must seek the truth.
This has become more and more interesting and I know right now Umno is scratching their head to fix this.
Anon 10:31
are u swinger? read the line few more times and u will stop asking.
Anonymous, 09:39
altruistic by those in power?...what a joke! if those people in power really know what altruism is about, all these wouldn't have happen and we are not tangled with all this mess made by them.
anons 10:31 and 14:51.
what can i say to the 2 of u? you cant understand the sentence? i said clearly- Anwar must regard this Eskay fellow like a close friend whom he enjoys together and maybe do all sort of horsing around. Eskay is like the close friend whom Anwar brings into the house, gains Anwar's complete trust but one day screws the wife.
you mean, i have to write it that way, for the 2 of u to understand?
mak ayak suruh belajar dahulu, you orang ponteng class. sorry guys.
"He must now regard Eskay as a friend with whom he parties together, bring into his home but ends up in bed with Azizah."
Elaborated thus:
"Eskay is like the close friend whom Anwar brings into the house, gains Anwar's complete trust but one day screws the wife." Sak.
That is a very crude and vulgar way of condemning Eskay by linking poor Azizah into this description?
You may not mean it but you imply that Azizah is a cheap woman who can be seduced by Eskay.
How would you feel if someone tells you that one day your best friend may end up screwing your wife/mother/daughter.
For heaven's sake leave women out of this.
anon 19:52
you must be really thick. that is precisely how one must now see eskay. completely untrustworthy.
I am sorry Dato', now I am confuse as to ask you what really is the religion of our Prime Minister? Or is he in control or The perogol RTC is also taking advantage of his Najib, Rosmy and RTC of the when we were young as those were the days!
Terrible as everyone knows with the help of IT can do wonders!!!
The main worry is when the Muslims start to distrust PM just because of this Eskay idiot and the perogol RTC then we expect turmoil sooner or later.
As many out there have lost trust in Jibby to protect Islam the religion. Very doubtful of UMNO leaders now. Are they Muslims or something else?
Fitnah kian memuncak dan tidak salah kalau saya seorang Islam mula gusar dan berkeinginan untuk bertindak demi mempertahankan Islam.
I may not agree Najib as PM but as he is already there then I expect him to protect Islam.
Masih menunggu tindakan PM kita!
Money is everythings to those crooks & goons! They can sell their ass, making sex videos, raping underage girl, killing a pregnant girl with C4 explosives, slandering, telling big lies, & sell their souls just for money!!
Anwar harus ditanam secepat mungkin.. Masalah akan datang pengikut2nya yang tahap monkey spt mna bekas-bekas pengikut Ku Li Musa dan lain serpihan ini yang telah kembali pulang semula kepangkal jalan.
Macam Sakmongkol juga, ego tak bertempat dan control macho yang tak merasa bersalah langsung.
Ini yang perlu ditangani mne jgk parti. Bagus lagi Berahim Ali.
Salam bro;
Wajah ketiga tiga jakun itu seperti monyet proboscis yang terdapat di Kinabatangan, monyet gila sex...Lihatlah muka mereka bertiga...Apakah wajah orang orang berkaliber?? Pemimpin? jauh sekali..Wajah perusak, pembodek, pengipas, wajah orang orang desperate dan frustrated? Ya, begitulah mereka bertiga...Tepuk dada tanya selera.
Globally, the government of the day is cracking their heads to overcome the economic headwinds.
But in Malaysia, we are busy with gutter politics ! Sighhhh!
Sir,
I know your command of the English language is very good but there is no need for your to present your ideas in such a way to test the proficiency of your readers' English.
It is very rude of you, whether intentional or not, about "bedding Azizah" part. Sangat biadab bagi saya. Bad choice but it is your write to pen it in whatever way you deem fit.
Saya pun bukan minat sangat about DSAI but if he is damaged goods, thats fine by me because damaged goods can be repaired. UMNO on the other hand is rotten to the core, monyet pun tak nak makan.
I'll take DSAI anyday over Najib. Besides that, we need a 2-party system to be established in this country.
I sincerely hope that you paly an important part in getting the 2-party system up and running.
"The grandmother Pendek had to run to Lim Guan Eng to seek justice.."That is the most bullshit thing i ever heard. The DAP man is taking the advantages of this nenek who concern about his granddaughter.( the allegation hail to Rahim served as a hideout to the motives of this DAP man ).We saw what has happen to penang now. Lim Guan Eng will be remember by many not to be trust ( Ask those folks in Kg Buah Pala and other kampung where Malays stay there.Oh. I am sure this anonymous is a DAP PIG or its bretheren.
Sak,
I left malaysia about 4 years ago. And no, I am not non-Malay but Malay who previously was even an UMNO member. The decision to leave Malaysia was a difficult one but I had to as even back in 2007 I lost whatever little faith I had left in our leaders after 1998.After Sodomy 2 and now Anwar ala Chua Soi Lek, I am extremely grateful to God for having made the tough decision to quit Malaysia in 2007. Does Malaysia still have leaders who care for the people? Has this Najib got any leadership qualities that he and UMNO are so preoccupied with this 'damaged good'Anwar? Is there nothing else Malaysians need to be preoccupied with since 1998? Even a child born then would be 13 years now and this so called governing party UMNO has nothing else for Malaysians?
Really sick this UMNO; Anwar, Bibles in Malay, pluralism,Interlok and the list is endless. This does not even happen in Africa.Meanwhile, its embarassing to say you are Malaysian overseas. I am sick of having to cover up for Malaysia.These days I tell my foreign friends that Malaysians are good people but our politicians are crooks and ugly.
And by the way, please keep Azizah out of this dirty politics ok?
semua harga barang naik, tapi di 1Malaysia yang jadi isu sama ada barang Anawar naik!!
The best and most factually sound explanation so far:
Dato' SK
In short, we are governed by a large team of unscrupulous, corrupted, greedy and uncaring politicians.
How low can one go.
Can anyone dare to say, those who plotted all these are clean themselves? The only difference is they are not filmed or no decent people plotted to film them , that is all.
Sick of this Malaysian politics. We are the laughing stock of the entire world.
We can only blame the leadership. We have no leadership or rather a leadership who does not know how to rule the country.
Krakatau,
Don't talk bullsit ah..Were you there in Melaka then when that rape thing happened? I was there and that is why I can categorically say that. Pendek, the grandmother initially sought the help of malay umno leaderrs. They, including Ali Rostam. viewed her like a leper and would not want anything to do with her. This helpless and pitiful old malay grandmother had no place to seek help.
of course Lee guan Eng being a service minded politician had to help her when she approached him. Of course he took advantage to bolster his political image. Of course he went out of his way to help the poor malay grandmother. So what? Did Umno melaka malay leaders, incl Ali rostam help this poor old. grandmother. Answer is no. Instead they basked at Rahim's new conquest.
You Umno goons are a pitiful sight and a contemptible lot to say the least. It is not surprising that an underaged rapist and a person who has been charged for corruption is behind the detestable sex video.
Salam Dato'
@Anon 25/03 07:29 your factually sound on Dato Eskay and Anwar at the Spa is a fitnah.
Indeed your blog has been churning your kind of facts that are just irrational hate spins (fitnah) after another.
If you know your Islam be VERY AFRAID.
Salam Bro. It's me 14:51. You put it in an ambigious form. So,it can mean anything.
The next Eskay will be Azmin.. trust me....
As far as I am concerned YOU are the damaged goods!
Please read your own writing! Do you have an agenda? Are you trying to be clever? Are you sincere?
If a person is down..you think it is alright to put other people's shit on him?
You are really disgusting!
True enough, these datuk &geng are just muslim by name. What and how they did is extremely despicable, morally sicked and certainly unislamic. They have no DOSA & PAHALA in their vocab. Pity them all. I hope God blast them all & throw them into Hell Fire!
I address this to KRAKATAU.
I wonder if you know your facts right about Thamby Chiks son screwing a young girl, below age, was about 15yrs of age maybe. She was raped by this Thamby's son and he managed to get off the hook because the mamak was in power and he with the help of the late Mokhtar...the then prosecutor said , 'no evidence'.
So. LIM Guan Eng fought for the girls grandmother not your UMNO f...rs. None of the malay UMNO went to her aid. Finally, LIM was sentenced to imprisonment that led him to loose 5 years, couldnt stand for election. See power of God, now he is Chief Minister of Penang. You talk about Buah Pala Village. Go get your facts right. Buah Pala Village was auctioned off by UMNO/BN before Pakatan came to power. There is nothing LIM could do about it. But, the best thing he tried to do for the folks there, he got them a house worth 600 thousand but some who were influenced ( stupid ) by UMNO/BN refused the offer, now stand to loose. Blame the UMNO/BN. Go investigate. Unless you are the UMNNO Cybertrooper then carry on your rumour mongering because you like to live on 'duit haram'. Get you facts correct. Don't listen to politicians.
Well damaged good is better than rotten apple. He got damaged by slander by his enemies on outside but still good inside. So many of your leaders look good outside but got plenty of worms and rot inside.
Long Live Anwar!!!
This is the legacy of a man who isn't a Malay but took the opportunity to profit from being a Malay. The result is that his followers have become mercenary and mindless in pursuit of power and wealth. Such a damning indictment against the man's 22 years in office. Perhaps the Malays should redeem the honour of their race by addressing the evils deeds inflicted upon the nation by voting against the umnoputras.
Dato,
With "friends" like Eskay who needs enemies. As far as I'm concerned, the damaged goods are the 3 stooges (Eskay, Thamby and Shuib) as in Datuk T and those behind the scenes who conspired and approved the 3 stooges going public with their conspiracy.
Dato,
Can't you see it? All these scandals are in the making of Anwar an urban sex legend. Many years down the road, when we the current generation are all old and dead, such sexploits stories will still linger around, with added proportions. Anwar will be made into superhero stories, with invincible sexual prowess, bullet-proof bodies etc.
Anon 25 March 2011 @ 07:29
Thats from PEOPLE AGAINST OPPOSITION. Biasa lah.
The video could be genuine but, the Actor !
As commented ' mengapa nak buat Video ? kenapa tak panggil Jabatan Ugama dan Polis, tangkap saja Anwar, red handed ?
Tapi mengapa Pemuda Umno tak mahu RCI ?
As someone said earlier, Apa Ugama Najib ?
People said you can't trust chinese. Now I think I can't trust Malay as well.
To all and sundry, another perspective imagination for all to wallow. Ever one think that this whole episode is a game plan by someone against the govt especially when the timing is so near the elections in Sarawak? Here it is
Eskay is a diehard supporter before and now he is pretending wearing a different cloth. He fixed up this video session with some Chinese lady from somewhere. Doctored it by inserting some DSAI images into it.
Then he invited ts rahim . They all fell hook and sinker to the video. Showed it to some journalists. Call a press conference to reveal all so to speak.
Investigations will obviously point that the video is a fake.
All fingers will point to TS Rahim. From TS it will go to UMNO. UMNO will be screwed by all and sundry and DSAI will be seen as the victim and sympathy will be for him. His footstep to PUTRA JAYA will get closer. Ha ha well done for those who plan this. TS Rahim and CO you all must be a fool to be trapped by this DSAI diehard ESKAY?
I knew Anwar since the early 80's and when he was courting Dr. Azizah. A neighbour of my future mother-in-law somewhere in PJ used to provide him 'shelter' because he had problems with Dr. Azizah's parents who were not in favour of him marrying their daughter. They eventually got married anyway.
Anwar had helped many people and when he became the Finance Minister, he helped more people, all Malays and if one talks about money, millions of RMs were involved. Of course, I am not one of them but I used to know many of them. At one stage, even all the TNB contracts, big and small, were 'controlled' by a company in Subang Jaya, at the premises where Alliance Bank Subang Jaya is now. However, when DSAI fell out-of-favour, many whom DSAI has helped, have left him. This is the reality of life.
Those turncoats like Zaharin, Ezam, Zul, Eskay, Ummi Hafilda, etc. are among the many examples of former DSAI's cohorts who have made a lot of money and then left him (DSAI).
So, going back to the videos of Datuk T, I believe it is just a scam, it is the work of some people who want to further discredit DSAI knowing that all the attempts that they have made, such as SODOMY 1, and SODOMY 2, are failing, have failed or have backfired.
There will be more of such things coming.
Just wait.
Salaams.
HAK
UMNO tidak mengendahkan pengajaran Al-Qur'an dlam banyak perkara... Inilah masalah asas UMNO sejak ia ditubuhkan hingga kini.
Allah SWT. Berfirman:
وَمَن يَعۡشُ عَن ذِكۡرِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ نُقَيِّضۡ لَهُ ۥ شَيۡطَـٰنً۬ا فَهُوَ لَهُ ۥ قَرِينٌ۬
yang maksudnya:
”Dan sesiapa yang tidak mengendahkan pengajaran (Al-Quran yang diturunkan oleh Allah) Yang maha Pemurah, Kami akan adakan baginya Syaitan (yang menghasut dan menyesatkannya), lalu menjadilah Syaitan itu temannya yang tidak renggang daripadanya." [Surah Al-Zukhruf : 36.]
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please dont mentioned the name of RTC. we know so much about this fucktard. people knew his crap smelly farting even on gunung ledang and his legendary thirst of the hole.
Dato, stop writing such posts. It sucks. You can't even find a suitable word than damaged goods... You should join the Datuk "Trio"...
Bro Sak, it's sad to see that Malaysia continuosly wash dirty linen for all to see. Even news like this makes us a laughing stock around the world. I pray that Malaysia will someday be in the news for all the right reasons and not this kind of news.
Sak, please be more precise with your English. Most malaysians are atrocious with it's understandings and so there you have some wearied coments. And yes, for goodness sake, you could at least Keep Kak Azizah out of this , she does not deserve this sort of treatment, not after all she has been made to go through. Do not complicate what with this T guy saying he has received SMS that Kak Azizah wants a viewing. The T and all his umno leadership and NGO supporters are sick in their brains. If it is true what T says about DSAI being in that tape, and that he was there himself in the tape, that alone is proof of an umno lie.rationalize it this way. if T went with his friend DSAI to that spa for that purpose, and rook him to that room all wired up for a recording , would not it be so much easier for the powers , political, police and the religious right behind the ruling class to have raided that room right during the act.? Does this make any sense, common you umno idiots sewer gutter politicians. Also, remember Datuk T initially said on 21/3/11 that DSAI told him to go back to the hotel room to look for the Omega watch and that was how in his search, he discovered the despicable act. The very next day, he says he was in the recording, and in fact doing the same thing just next room. Oh, common on, how stupid could we malaysians be to believe or trust this Datuk Trios and the najib & umno juggernauts in what they were up to in the first place, I.e. Get PKR MPs to quit as soon as possible by 22/3/11 by offering rm1m each but that tactic failed miserably and with each passing day, that is beyond umno' s reach. najib has bungled again but then he has all govt instruments with him to protect him and umno, while maybe get a fine sentence on the Datuk Trios while damage to DSAI, family and PR is done come Sarawak elections. Do we get it , please. Shame on the Muftis, Imams, repeated Malay n Muslim leaders, even TRH, Musa Hitam, all the honest and true Muslims who should have called this bluff on Monday itself but yet let the matter drag on and damage DSAI n Kak Azizah family into the sewer gutter. Shame on this country, it's leadership, and the whole govt machinery which supports.
It's difficult to understand in the present day context why Petronas took over oil resources and now Kelate, Terengganu, Sabah and Sarawak are virtually robbed of their very natural wealth. For Sabah and Sarawak there is no shortage of additional robbing due to corrupt BN government.
The provision for clean water in Kelate is pathetic and PaS has to struggle to provide basic amenities to its citizens.
How actually did Tun Razak (PM then) and Tengku Razali(FM then) spoofed the whole thing up?
Dato',
The underage girl in question was NOT a Portuguese girl but a Malay who was then sent to Rumah Pemulihan Akhlak in Tanjong. There were so many stories that Malacca people can tell you about Rahim Tamby Chik - he is not called PTB(Pantang Tengok Betina) for nothing!
Anwar is damaged goods?
It is so only to simpletons. Those who can't differentiate between prosecution and persecution. Those who side with money and the powerful even if it means working for the devil. Those who are still alive but yet not fight for justice on behalf of the dead who can't speak anymore.
People need not love Anwar as a political leader - flawed or not. But people must fight with him against injustice. Afterall he is a fellow human being.
Rahim TC is back after a long break from our local political scenario. When it spells Rahim the ex-Melaka CM, it spells doom !
Excerpt ;
Rahim TC referred to the order by Anwar the TPM then to resign after having been proven to have had sex with an under aged Portuguese girl.
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This is a factual error
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RTC raped an underaged Malay girl (albeit possibly statutory).
He didn't rape the Portuguese girl as it was consensual.
RTC was sued by the girl for breaking his promise to marry her.
I heard RTC paid her RM 200k for an out of court settlement.
Hey AK47 (cut the dato' bullshit)...
I pray that a great tsunami would come and wash all those shitheads away... forget about Anwar for a moment, he is not the nation leader. What about the present so called leaders. Once we could use our national leaders as examples for young students to emulate. lately it has been a dearth of role models. perhaps they should all be put out to pastures. Yes all those bringer of damnation from both side of the political divide.
I am now so convinced that a calculated dose of anarchism is needed to remedied the situation. Perhaps dismantling this sorry excuse we call a nation would be the better option and starting anew again.
This is very appropriate for a nation which relied on a make believed social contract more that its official constitution, whose legislators broke the very law that they themselves wrote, whose politician live for political expediency rather fight for the benefit of the citizenry, whose police force does not provide security but the source of mockery, whose judiciary is but a balanced scale.
I call to an end of this prolonged humiliation. The citizens deserved to be treated with dignity not shamed constantly. If I have the doomsday button, I would surely use it now.
Nihilism Now.
Hi Dato',
After thinking thru this thing what seems most odd is the timing. Why did Dato Eskay decide to launch this video at about the same time he's suing another power broker for a big sum of $$.
My theory is this.
Some assumptions:
First and foremost we've got to understand that the police will most probably be reluctant to investigate the tape's authenticity because they lack they are already in deep with the Saiful case.
So now its really Dato Eskay's word against Anwar.
Consider the 2+2 argument
If Dato Eskay next week breaks down and says it was all a set up job, who suffers the most? the PM and UMNO. Even worse the Saiful case will be jeopardized.
So the onus is now on Dato Eskay to continue to hit Anwar Ibrahim , and for those to paint the circumstances on how this tape was produced.
In return, what will Eskay want? A-ha, seems that this is a poker match, with BN all in having a crap hand, Anwar and Pakatan having an Ace pair and BN hoping Eskay has a triple King.
If Eskay folds, then Anwar and Pakatan win the pot. Poor PM, he should play Zynga poker more often
Why do we keep on arguing about all these people? They are scum and it doesn't warrant our time to talk about them as they are nobodies or are have-beens like Rahim.
What is important is what the people think of Anwar as a potential leader? I'm finding it extremely hard to convince people. Even if he is PM, all these will end. I agree he's a damaged good.
Maybe we need Azizah to be the unifying factor.
Dato'
Your comments on "Damaged Goods" is interesting.
What is Clear is that with the Scandals linked to DS Najib and his wife, they are all the same "Damaged Goods". Nevertheless his wife insist on sustaining more damage and will do so well into the future.
Its is therefore obvious that You can be "Damaged Goods" but still remain UNAFFECTED if YOU ARE IN POWER.
The Rakyat has to decide whether to Continue with an existing Damaged Goods or replace it with another one
What is important is whether one wishes to continue supporting a New Party with "Growing Pains" (as in Youthful vigour) or continue choosing an existing one that is AGED, CORRUPTED and DECLINING IN VIGOUR (As with any old age and declining person).
Joe Black
Hai yah what about all the skeletons in BN'S especially Umno's closet. what I find totally galling is, majority of the culprits are Muslims, it is not that the other races don't do any of this stuff, it is just that the non-muslims do not pretend to be holier than thou and quote arabic to sound Holy.
Miriam Mokhtar, now writing regularly for the Chronicle after being enticed away from the fading Mirror, takes issue with the latest so-called sex scandal, and lists a string of unreported real scandals involving politicians.
That they went unreported is not unusual for Malaysian media, almost all owned and controlled by the ruling party or subject to repressive press control regulations and strict bureaucrat overseers at KDN for whom the ruling party’s security has become synonymous with “national security”.
For Malaysian history buffs, here’s your weekend quiz. Can you identify those involved?
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By Miriam Mokhtar
Malaysia Chronicle
The ringleader of this latest sex video is Rahim Tamby Chik. He is the disgraced, former Chief minister of Malacca who allegedly raped a minor and then had to resign. The underage girl’s grandmother sought a DAP MP’s help to bring Rahim Thamby to trial. That just shows how much trust ordinary Malays have in the elected Umno Malays. The DAP MP was himself thrown into prison. Did any of the other Umno Malays come to the defence of the girl?
cont'd
Perhaps, the following questions should be incorporated in the history curriculum at school.
Who was the onetime UMNO deputy home affairs minister, who was allegedly implicated in the murder of a young woman? He is just like a current serving minister who is allegedly accused of rape. The widespread gossip connecting this onetime Umno deputy home affairs minister with the murder didn’t do his political career any harm. He was ultimately named Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Minister in the late 90s although he lost his parliamentary seat two years later and retired from politics.
Who was the Chief Minister who had an affair with a girl who eventually gave birth to an illegitimate child? He also kept an under-aged mistress at a condominium in Kuala Lumpur. In 2003, he was also rumoured to be involved with the death of another attractive young woman was found murdered in an apartment in a Kuala Lumpur suburb. Although another individual was arrested and charged with the murder, he was later declared not guilty and no one else was ever charged. The inspector general of police, Mohd Bakri Omar, classified the case under Malaysia’s Official Secrets Act and no details were ever released.
Who was the non-politician but Umno mouthpiece who had an affair with a young girl while his wife lay paralysed in bed?
Who was the Chief Minister who eloped to Thailand to secretly marry his second wife?
Who is the Federal Minister who was caught with a female artiste in a Port Dickson hotel?
Who is the Federal Minister whose brother was arrested for drug trafficking?
Which Federal Minister had an affair with someone else’s wife and this eventually resulted in a broken marriage?
Which religious leader had an illicit affair and who now holds a prominent position in a very important government religious body?
Which Chief Minister had an affair with his sister-in-law who then gave birth to an illegitimate child?
Who is the son of the prominent politician who was implicated in the 2007 death of a beautiful Indian actress? The woman’s body was cremated almost immediately after her death.
Who is the minister who was implicated in Malaysia’ own deep throat sexploits and would put Emmanuel to shame?
Who is the current serving cabinet minister who is accused of raping his maid?
Who is the current MP who betrayed his first wife by marrying a young starlet? His second marriage was not blessed by a recognised … court official and he himself is reknowned for using gutter language in the Dewan Rakyat?
Which Malaysian Ambassador has been guilty of sexually exploiting women?
With ministers like these in Najib’s Sex Cabinet line-up, how could the rakyat trust the government, its courts, the police and its ministers? Very few of the privileged elite who make up the politically powerful and rich in Malaysia ever get punished.
from Miriam Mokhtar’s column “Najib’s ‘Talented, Wise And Thoughtful’ cabinet” » Malaysia Chronicle
dato'
your party is truly decadent. an alleged rapist can even sit as chairman of august govt agency.Gosh.
Ask RTC n Rozmah @ Mrs Najis .. were they a couple n bonking each other during university days at MU .. most students then knew that. sorrrrry Fiest Lady won't protect u this time
Sak,
The sex video has turned into a comedy of errors. Firstly the Dunggu Trio claimed the sex tryst was in a local KL hotel. Then they changed their minds and said the location is a spa well known for sex romps. And now according to the police, the location of the sex tryst is a private apartment in Ampang. What next......the location is in Parliament House?? It will certainly not be a surprise considering the government did use the Parliament House to slaughter cattle for kenduri besides BN MPs frequent remarks on sexual inuendoes.
hello guys...isunya sekarang ialah:
1. adalah orang dalam video tu AI n pelacur. yes or no? rakyat nak tahu...
tak payahlah nak argue perkara lain yg sudah tersurat dan sudah di ambil tindakan...
bercakap perkara yg benar...mengumpat namanya, bercakap perkara yg tidak benar...fitnah namanya...so lets police di their job!
Anon 27 March 2011 05:31:
This is libellous!!!man..unless you can provide the evidences that Rahim Thamby and Rosmah were bonking each other.
Have you seen Rahim entering or sneeking into Rosmah's room. In which college/residential hostel did Rosmah stayed then. What was Rosmah's reputation then amongst residential students and that of Rahim. Was Rosmah open to everybody then.
Without any evidences, you can make libellous statement.
Dato,
I think we are all disgusted with slander politics and the current political culture. It is scary if these values seep down throughout Malaysian society.
I framed a petition, I hope you do not mind my posting the link here.
I am curious if at least 1m malaysians will agree with me.
http://www.petitiononline.com/MsiaBack/petition.html
CS
Let those who did not sin cast the first stone. Some politicians in Malaysia have to stoop so low just to destroy a person and some sell loyalty for the money. What have our society, with claims to be religious and faithful followers of the Quran, become? How many leaders in UMNO are free from those extra- marital activities? Maybe some of those videos are not in the view of the public. It does not mean they are clean and holy. Come on, let's not go on fooling our Mighty God by putting such a childish act for the world to laugh at us!!!!
Salam Dato'
@Anon 28/03/11 01:17
After so many thoughts/words, you still are wondering?
"1. adalah orang dalam video tu AI n pelacur. yes or no?"
Kami sudah tahu ini adalah fitnah yang menjelekkan. Mengapa kamu masih menanyakan kami lagi yes or no?
"... so lets police di their job!"
Aren't their job so obviously to get whatever charge(s) ON Anuar so that A.G./Court will be demanding Anuar must be made to answer for!... e.g. his alibi/digital records proving to the minutes and seconds that he couldn't be in the video; requiring him to give sperm sample to prove that it does not match the DNA on the Omega watch??...
Don't the BN/UMNO Government ever get to realize anymore that the people are losing any regard in/for the Police who are only and preocuppied with investigations into Anuar's every alleged impropriety as according to their instructions and so as to corroborate with the fitnah that are increasingly dubious and irrational.
The Police and the Judiciary have to answer to their political masters no doubt and that they are made to answer in so totally unashamedly unprofessional and unethical manner they will never be able to live down their ignominies...ever again.
It will come we must TOTALLY rebuild these very damaged goods of the Nations' institutions.
anon 01.17
What the hell are talking about man?? I will never ever trust this POLIS RAJA DI MALAYSIA. They're just political tools that corrupt to the core. After much that we've seen and the latest is the PKR ceramah where polis act like samseng berlesen. So naive la u. I'll say it again, again and again PRDM (POLIS RAJA DI MALAYSIA)
Hahaha!
Whatever that Sak wanted to say, this post & comments sure have sexed up every damn thing!
Then he doesn't have to do any damge control to UMNO's paramount Chief, Najib Razak as others can lintang pukang do it.
In any case, UMNO is very self-fulling! Nothing SAK can do now will eke out any self redemption. And more so now with Daim junjung-junjung UMNO in ways he won't ever be able to in 7 life times!
Let's just muse the fact that, without UMNO would the Noble Malays ever get to know how bad life can be, ever? That's the lesson from UMNO. Bloody expensive though.
Perhaps, now us dungu Malays can fix things without breaking the bank again!
The next thing to look at is the Muslim Human Rights declaration done in that little pharoah Mubarak's Cairo. Teruk lah. Bible defaced, Qur'an deface !!!
Apa lah ni???
viewed anwar's speech at taman melawati. he's a scum alright. using lines from the kuran! but he cannot fool me. just show us his omega watch. he cannot....because he is a liar. a very good one. orang bodoh dia bolehlah tipu
Tuan pemblog,
Tidak semua orang 'jahat' perlu di anggap sebagai sampah masyarakat apatah lagi kalau orang itu telah menerima pembalasan dunia ATAU rela hati pulang ke pangkal jalan.
Alangkan sampah terbuang ada nilai tersembunyi inikan pula manusia yang dianggap sampah masyarakat sudah tentu ada kelebihan tersembunyi yang boleh digunakan secara positif.
Dalam konteks sampah, tidak semuanya akan dibuang seolah-olah tidak ada nilai sedikitpun. Malah ada sampah yang boleh dikutip dan direkayasakan menjadi bahan yang amat berguna.
Begitu juga ada sampah yang apabila dikitar semula, produk hilirannya boleh dimanfaatkan. Dalam kata lain jangan menyampah dengan sampah cuma kerana kita tidak tahu kegunaannya.
Bidalan Inggeris menyatakan: "It takes a thief to catch a thief". maksudnya hanya orang yang tidak jujur yang dapat membaca apa yang difikirkan oleh individu lain yang juga tidak jujur.
Makanya kalau ada orang yang tidak jujur mahu kembali ke pangkal jalan, terimalah ianya dengan hati terbuka. Dan kalaulah orang yang sama ini mahu menggunakan kelebihannya untuk mendedahkan ketidakjujuran individu lain, terimalah kesanggupannya itu secara positif.
Justeru dalam konteks isu yang dibincangkan, penglibatan Mr Teskay dalam isu ini adalah memenuhi bidalan Inggeris di atas yakni apa jua persepsi negatif yang menyelubungi dirinya dengan sendirinya terpadam.
Ini kerana tanpa kelebihan yang dimiliki oleh insan yang tidak jujur ini tidak mungkin ada insan lain yang mampu mendedahkan ketidakjujuran sahabat2nya itu. Oleh itu Teskay harus diberikan pujian yang sepatutnya.
Lorong Tengah
Salam Mr. Mohd Ariff Sabri,
When you referred Anwar Ibrahim as 'damaged good', the first thing that comes to the mind of most people well versed with the idiom is a person who is flawed or spoiled and best left alone.
The definition of damaged good in Merriam Webster dictionary :
"a person considered to be flawed or spoiled in character, efficiency and value"
To spin your words and trying to say that "when I say Anwar is a damaged good I say that in the context he has been injured, in the eyes of the rakyat and will likely suffer. that will happen not matter if hes guilty or innocent." is just pure poppycock and showing the true colours of a wily politician trying to snake out of a dead hole.
Anwar is a flawed character or person he may be, but tell me who isn't?? And if you held him against the benchmark set by the UMNO leaders, he could almost be a saint for all I care.
I have never rated the politicians in Malaysia, nor would I care to start now.
My cause is in getting the best deal for the people by having the most suitable person to lead the country. And if you are truly a gentleman as you think you are, you should have seen how Anwar is being pummeled from all directions in disregard to the principles of fair play in politics.
So drop your charade and just say it out loud that u have never liked Anwar since u have never benefited from him.
Do not make me lose any more respect of you as a blogger with politics background, let alone as a human being.
I guess in politics, one does not have the luxury of having any permanent friends. One minute bosom buddies and the next only to happy to reveal all.
The attacks on Anwar, true or alleged, they come non-stop...
evilcooler,
don't flatter yourself. you think i write as though your respects for me matter? why don't you write your own article and give me a convincing argument.
and maybe you haven't read my previous posts about Anwar being treated most unceremoniously. but then, from your own style of writing, having so high an opinion of yourself to such an extent that you THINK your perceptions of others matter, you are not interested in discussion are you?
Very interesting.
"Anwar is damaged good."
Wow... to me ..."So what"
To me, it is about the party not the person that brought about a two party system that is important.
Anyone here, try to show me another alternative to the current non viable (since TDM time - everyday losing out to every neighbour) government.
If you can't, so whatever Anwar did, do or will do, does not actually matter.
IT is the party that matters.
If we want change , a refreshing change, we have no choice. It is ONLY PR
So current BN try as they might to character assasination on Anwar, Lim Guan Eng etc, it does not matter very much.
Mr. Ariff,
Kindly choose a topic and we shall discuss. There is a reason why I hold myself in high regard.
Shall we start with .. "UMNO is irrelevant and a lost cause in the 21st century global politics.. do you agree?".
For someone with vast experiences in politics, I gather you are up for any intellectual discussion, virtual or otherwise. And yes, I think you have the 'cojones' to debate this at length, unlike the lizards crawling on the corridors of power.
Tuan,
Bukan senang nak buat orang percaya. Bagi yang percaya itu hak mereka tetapi bagi yang tidak percaya itu pun hak juga. Namun ada maklumat yang apabila didedahkan bersifat amaran agar orang yang mendapat maklumat berkenaan berwaspada.
Contohnya kalau ada Pemberi Maklumat (PM) cerita bahawa kat sekian-sekian lorong ada ponti-anak kaki rogol/liwat maka terpulanglah kepada awek-awek dan teruna-terunis Bn dan PR sama ada mahu terima kebenarannya atau sebaliknya.
Kalau mereka yang enggan percaya cerita si PM tadi dan masih juga mahu gunakan lorong berkenaan maka itu adalah hak mereka. Cumanya kalau bertembung dengan ponti-anak berkenaan, janganlah terpekik terlolong minta tolong dari PM.
Sudah tentu dalam keadaan itu PM akan gunakan kaedah kalsik iaitu: "kalau terjumpa penyokong Bn dan Pr meminta tolong, maka selamatkan penyokong Bn dari pontia-anak kaki lewat berkenaan sebaliknya sondol saja juak-juak Pr yang degil tu agar mereka dapat semula akai yang telah hilang entah ke mana.
he he
Anon: 30 March 2011 22:11
Apa yang kau merepek ni? Nasihat ini amat bagus kalau kau beri pada anak isteri dan saudara mara SAHAJA.
To others here, ee here have better IQ than you to differentiate between what is fiction and what is fact.
He..he...he...
Anon 9:11,
Video CSL juga adalah fiksyen tetapi rata-rata mereka yang ada IQ termasuklah kamu masih percayakan cerita fiksyen, he he he.
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