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Saturday, 7 February 2009

Anwar’s Storming of the Bastille in Perak?

Things are getting uglier in Perak. Thousands took to the streets. The people are angry. They are protesting at what they perceived as a serious travesty of justice. The PKR government in Perak has been toppled. You can read it in the media. It is laid out in more detail in the new media- which is what the internet is known.

There were scenes of people being set upon with teargas. The police came down hard on the people. It was helter skelter. The police made some arrests. As the demonstrations took place after the Friday payers, most of those arrested were Malays. That would add another dimension to Malaysian politics.

Why must we resort to the streets? This isn't the storming of the Bastille and Anwar Ibrahim, the unseen instigator is not a Robespierre. This isn't a popular uprising against the monarchy. This is just a desperate putsch by Anwar and his gang to force the issue by confronting the Palace. The Perak Palace had made a decision which wasn't liked by Anwar and Nizar. But we know Anwar has the ability to transform what is localised issue in the sense that it affects PR and PKR into an issue of looming catastrophe.

We have said, that the manner in which the state government fell was quite extraordinary. In a democracy a government is displaced through popular elections. This manner is in keeping with the practice of democracy. But the Perak government has been brought down because it does not have the majority. He lost the majority because members of his party defected. A leader of the party which does not have command of the majority must resign. As to this aspect of the political mess, I am sure I will be writing more.

For the moment though, I think we must clear on two things. Setting a government and appointment of head of the government are two different things. A government is formed through elections. The party which wins majority seats is invited to form a government. The party with the majority then nominates a person as leader. That leader can be assumed to command the confidence of the majority. In Malaysia, since it is assumed that majority speaks with one voice, the person nominated as leader is assumed to get unanimous approval from his party. The party can submit several names in fact to the King for assent. The king has the prerogative to choose which particular one. That should have been obvious. Idris Jusoh was earlier on chosen to be the Terengganu MB, but was rejected by the Sultan. Mat Said was then nominated and received the King's consent. The right of fire and hire lies with the King.

When a government ceases to command the majority seats, it has to resign. That is also a practice of democracy. The leader of the party which forms the government goes before the monarch, to tender resignation of his government. That will allow the party which commands the majority to form the new government.

The PR government was made up of PKR, DAP and PAS. Together they had 31 members. Now, 3 of them had deserted the PR government leaving the party with 28 members. Who now has the majority? It is still not fully settled yet.

The BN has 28 members. Without the 3 who deserted the PR, it too cannot form a government. As of now they have not joined the BN formally. Joining the BN government is, however a foregone conclusion. In the interim, they say, they support the BN government, thus effectively giving the BN another 3 seats. The BN can therefore say, it now has the majority in the state assembly. That gives it the right to form the government. It then submits a name which they think commands the confidence of the party to become MB. The decision to accept who becomes the MB lies exclusively with the King of the state.

The cardinal principle is you must have a majority. Without this, your standing becomes untenable. You have no alternative but to tender resignation. Nizar doesn't seem to understand this. When he sought an audience with the Perak king, he no longer has majority. It was a case of being too late.

I am not sure, with that, he can even seek dissolution of the state assembly. But if he seeks dissolution when the Bota man and the two PKR wakil rakyats were MIA and the deputy speaker was in seclusion, the PR was still technically the majority. I am very sorry to say this, bur Nizar was technically an incompetent politician. Possibly people of good and righteous upbringing plus being yet unschooled in the art of realpolitik, he has no stomach for Machiavellian politics.

But at that time, if he had gone to the King and requested a dissolution, he could have succeeded. And you know what, if he had gone to the hustings, UMNO would be decimated in Perak.

He should have read the situation in his party carefully. If he had done so, his request for dissolution would have been tenable. Once he loses majority, the only option opened to him was to offer resignation not dissolution.

And so his heroic defiance now is exceeded only by his stupidity. The right thing to do was to seek resignation. Asking for dissolution when you don't command the majority can only be interpreted as an attempt of saving your own self. You want to ring the bell in order to save the situation.

But I want to discuss a disturbing trend. I don't know whether in Malaysia, we have laws pertaining to lese majeste- or injuring the dignity of the King. In Thailand, a person was tried for this offence for not standing in a cinema when the royal song was aired. Here it now seems, Malaysians have lost their restraint and respect for the king. I read with disgust and shame the various e mail messages that roundly condemned Sultan Azlan Shah. If the trend continues, it will be no longer be the person of HRH the Sultan that is being mauled here. Soon it will turn to the very symbol of the Malay being.

The outpourings of open defiance are directed, as it were, at the Perak Royal House. This is a first in Malaysian history. There has never been open defiance such as this. The previous constitutional crisis involving the clash between the Monarchy and the elected government was a controlled and regulated affair. It never spilled into wanton disorder as it does now.

The real perpetrator and chief instigator, Anwar Ibrahim, lurks in the background. He is the principal agent provocateur. HRH Sultan Azlan Shah has already decided that the Dewan Undangan Negeri Perak not be dissolved. That decision must be respected. Yet, Anwar Ibrahim sees it fit to mobilise thousands to express, what essentially is defiance to the Sultan. That must qualify as a treasonable offence.

62 comments:

An-Nimr 7 February 2009 at 13:41  
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Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 13:54  

Good stuff, Dato.

Some people need to get stuffed! I hope the cucu-cicit of Dato Bahaman will rise and stuffed these instigators into karung guni and throw them at Pasir Salak.

Aparently some of the Friday demonstrators caught by police are Indons!


MRSM Kalae Chepo 66/73

kuldeep 7 February 2009 at 14:06  

Just a thought
what will be the public's perception if the court later finds that ;

>>the Sultan's decision was unconstitutional?
>>that the two ex PR excos are not guilty of corruption?
>>EC erred in rejecting the Speakers request for a by election for the 2 DUN?

thanks

Farid,  7 February 2009 at 15:10  

I think DSAI and Karpal Singh are underestimating the extent of the romantic relationship the (UMNO as well as non-UMNO) Malays have with their Kings. To challenge Tuanku's decision in such manner will be deemed highly distasteful by more Malay Perakians than they'd expect. It will backfire, is not worth it, and like they have always been since March, far too hasty.

I am also wondering where article 181 of the constitution comes in this, where it states that no Malay ruler/king will be charged in the court of law in their official ruling capabilities.

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 15:10  

mis-leading. propose go to search somemore blogs to read to understand if the BN & Sultan move is appropiate and justifiable.

Golf Vista 7 February 2009 at 15:22  

How about this?

There are reasons to believe that Nizar sought an audience with the Sultan in the morning but was not granted till late in the afternoon conveniently after Najib paraded the defectors at Putrajaya.

If the audience went ahead in the morning, the Sultan should have lesser excuse to deny the submission to dissolve the state assembly (which the Sultan himself wrote in his book).

Any ratty smell?

And the Sultan subsequently proclaimed that he in his wisdom is convinced by - among others - the same 3 defectors that they now support BN as independents (why not join the party they support?) - the same three persons who in March 2008 last year were interviewed by the same Sultan about their commitment to the PR coalition government and successfully convinced the same Sultan then. So forgiving and merciful the Sultan to overlook this small fact and trust them again.

Not sure whether those undated letters of resignation were not signed in the presence of the Sultan or the Regent.

The Sultan took more than a week to approve the PR state government back then. He took a few hours on this occasion.

I think these curious events are far more convincing to the world than the answers provided by the defectors to the Sultan's questions to them on the 2 occasions 10 months apart.

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 15:32  

Wonderful, play your race card. Always works. To hell with Justice, huh?

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 15:39  

What if the court accepts the undated letter of resignations of these 3 frogs, then BN and PR will each command 28 seats. Tell me who has the majority?

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 15:42  

Dear all,
To err is human, after all Sultan is human too. UMNO right wing racist royalty party must be brought down!

While the poor cries for justice, lets all sing the jolly good old songs of the Pirates...

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me

We pillage, we plunder, we rifle and loot
Drink up me hearties, yo ho
We kidnap and ravage and don't give a hoot
Drink up me hearties, yo ho

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me

We extort, we pilfer, we filch and sack
Drink up me hearties, yo ho
Maraud and embezzle and even high-jack
Drink up me hearties yo ho

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me

We kindle and char, inflame and ignite
Drink up me hearties, yo ho
We burn up the city, we're really a fright
Drink up me hearties, yo ho

We're rascals, scoundrels, villains, and knaves
Drink up me hearties, yo ho
We're devils and black sheep, really bad eggs
Drink up me hearties, yo ho

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me

We're beggars and blighters and ne'er do-well cads
Drink up me hearties, yo ho
Aye, but we're loved by our mommies and dads
Drink up me hearties, yo ho

Captain Jack Sparrow

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 15:45  

It must be very convenient to slam DSAI for whatever that goes against the BN, this episode included. But with DSAI or not, there's still something not right about this Perak issue, most of all the blatant denial of the right of the rakyat to choose its Government. In hindsight it's also easy to judge now if Nizar is stupid not to ask for dissolution earlier etc. etc. and how the "very symbol of the Malay being" is being threathened like never before. But sitting here in KL, I cant help but agree that what UMNO did was wrong and I'm ashamed that Malays can be this treacherous. And I am certainly not emotional about defending the "very symbol of the Malay being". The Institusi Raja has failed us yet again.

Are You Gonna Go My Way,  7 February 2009 at 15:47  

Nice writing Dato,

Thats why the technicality of Law and politics go hand in hand.Most prime ministers and presidents are lawyers including in Malaysia. We have Tenku,Tun Razak and Hussein Onn. America now have Obama and Hillary..

Im not saying we must only have lawyers as our leaders but at least have some more lawyers joining high level politics....

But I've heard some lawyers complained that their application to join UMNO (in Shah Alam)were rejected because they are lawyers......Takut melawan towkey kot....

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 15:54  

i think the writer is just a cheap shot! So typical of you/UMNO to call DSAI the trouble maker. Wake up, majority just wants UMNO/BN OUT OF THIS WORLD!!!! PERIOD! Sheesh....

Are You Gonna Go My Way,  7 February 2009 at 15:54  

Those complaining and cursing the King of Perak in website are mostly by non Perakian....

Perak people are actually fed-up with PKR, PAS and Dap in Perak...they were accidental winner....

Perak people were only to trying to scare BN and Paklah a little bit....but they never thought that DAP would take over the government..

come next election BN will win again....

Taiping Mali,  7 February 2009 at 16:14  

I don't understand what kind of morons are there in PR. They always insist that the right of voters supporting PR has been ignore.

Do they not realise that they are another portion of the Perakians vorters that support BN and with the 3 independant assemblymen / women supporting BN - BN is NOW the majority and so is the voters that selected them?? HRH The Sultan of Perak must have also considered this facts (among others) and definitely HRH must give this faction the benefit of the doubt.

PR and their supporter should grow up and accept the reality. Weather there are legal issues that is not settle - use the court to resolve them - not by laying on the street and making a fool of yourself!!!!

TOKZ,  7 February 2009 at 16:35  

ATTENTION ALL PAKATAN RAKYAT DUDES!!!

Why still so THICK SKIN ??? Are you wankers deaf & stupid??? Didn't you wankers read & heard Tuanku had said "Pakatan Rakyat, tolong balik kampung dan kongkek lembu??".

Look, you wankers in Pakatan Rakyat are now finished. Even Tuanku who is often dubbed 'The Wise Man' by most Pakatan wankers before this latest incident have spoken. Pakatan wankers are a bunch of THICK SKIN SORE LOSING MUTAFAKARS. Still wanna hold on to MB post??? Hahahahahahahahahaha..."Don't wast time lah. Just go back & screw your mother. That's a better thing to do". Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Pakatan Rakyat memang BODOH lagi BANGGANG,
Dah kalah masih mahu kerusi MB DIPEGANG,
Tuanku bertitah tolong balik kampung makan nasi KANGKANG,
Saya genbira tengok BN CEMERLANG.

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 16:37  

Taiping Mali,

3 majority is for PR during the election. People has choose them that reprensent PR. Now they jump to BN without consent of the people that chosen them in last GE. How can you said BN has majority of 3 with voters? To stop this dispute, let's propose election to prove this, but why BN and Sultan doesn't want that? Smell fishy, right?

In short, BN gain back Perak by defection, not by will of Perakian.

Sultan has acted not according to law. Malaysia kini has enough coverage of this from various sources. Go figure

TOKZ,  7 February 2009 at 16:42  

ATTENTION ALL PAKATAN RAKYAT DUDES!!!

Why still so THICK SKIN ??? Are you wankers deaf & stupid??? Didn't you wankers read & heard Tuanku had said "Pakatan Rakyat, tolong balik kampung dan kongkek lembu??".

Look, you wankers in Pakatan Rakyat are now finished. Even Tuanku who is often dubbed 'The Wise Man' by most Pakatan wankers before this latest incident have spoken. Pakatan wankers are a bunch of THICK SKIN SORE LOSING MUTAFAKARS. Still wanna hold on to MB post??? Hahahahahahahahahaha..."Don't wast time lah. Just go back & screw your mother. That's a better thing to do". Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Pakatan Rakyat memang BODOH lagi BANGGANG,
Dah kalah masih mahu kerusi MB DIPEGANG,
Tuanku bertitah tolong balik kampung makan nasi KANGKANG,
Saya genbira tengok BN CEMERLANG.

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 16:42  

Anwar is not playing the real Maximillian Robespierre role...he is a person above Nizar, the Robespierre of the day.& somebody may instruct Anwar to do so...Once "the conspiracy' achieved its objective, Nizar will b left as 'Penderhaka',similar with Robespierre who endup his life at his very own Revolutionary's guilotin. The Conspiracy will later thru their proxy,Anwar creating another 'Napolean' to create the next phase of revolution againt the Monarch institution!

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 16:47  

why blame PR? PR represent majority of Perakian won from last GE. Now, BN stole the Perak with back door, and what's wrong for PR who voice and work for Perakian t maintain their right to serve the people?

macam macam boleh in Malaysia nder BN...pitty..

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 16:48  

I read with disgust and shame the various email messages that roundly condemned Sultan Azlan Shah....

Hello...we are an Islamic Country???..so no HRH for only in God we believe and only in GOD we trust. The Sultan has proven himself human and a common thief....he stole A GOVERNMENT.. right out of PR and gave it to a suspected murderer...so please grow up.

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 17:05  

THIS IS A FAILURE OF DEMOCRACY. BN WILL PAY FOR THEIR DEEDS. NEVER CHALLENGE THE RAKYAT'S DECISION. BN CHALLENGED IT AND I AM VERY SURE BN WILL BE BURIED. DSAI SHOULD BE SALUTED FOR HIS PATIENCE OF NOT INSTIGATING RACIAL TENSIONS LIKE BN. RAKYAT IS WITH HIM. TALK WHATEVER U WANT BUT DSAI IS WITH RAKYAT

Peter,  7 February 2009 at 17:18  

Blaming the small anger shown by PR supporters on Anwar is really uncalled for by this author.

And to put salt into the wound mentioned that Nizal is wrong in holding on to the post and should resign.

Another thing ... saying taking legal action to undo a wrong by a royalty is treason.

Guest you all have to grow up.

Now,
Anwar as a leader has every right to express displeasure and definitely was not disrespectful to the Sultan. In fact he stopped Karpal from taking the Sultan to court ...but instead concentrated on the MB rather than the Sultan. Any such comment by the author? No obviously not .. .and shows how bias the author is and have been.

In fact when someone protests how can you place this on one man? What proof do you have to do so/ None I can guarantee that.

As for Nizar... why should he resign? The state constitution clearly stated that only a vote of no confidence can he be forced to resign. Did the author mention that ? No..

In fact Nizar challenged that the state assembly be convened and let that vote of confidence be carried out and he would resign. Did the author mention that ? No.

No one question the fact that if the MB does not command the support of the majority he has to step down. Why the haste? The super speed you see in such a case? Did the author mention that to be suspicious? NO.

In fact the status of the defectors should be determined by the courts. No one else. So the fact remains unless their status are actually ascertained , the status quo MUST remain. There is no two way about it . It is the law!

Now surely Nizar/PR are bring their grievances to the courts and let the court decides... you call them treacherous.

Morally who is more treacherous... the defectors or the aggrieved parties Nizar and company.

Nizar asked nothing more than dissolving the Assembly nothing more and let the people decide. Are you the people if you are living in Perak? CAn you decide who governs you?

Ask yourself if this happen to you, what would you do?

no such thing as Anak Bangsa Malaysia!,  7 February 2009 at 17:34  

Javanese (Malay) values are not compatible with Islamic values. The informed and educated know this well. So does PAS, though they will not admit it openly.

Related info:
http://margeemar.blogspot.com/2009/02/nizar-derhaka-atau-sultan-yang-abaikan.html

http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/michael-chick-who-are-the-malays-and-how-to-unite-them/

Maybe Indonesia should invade the fake country called Malaysia, throw out the government and corrupted system including the monarchy, and call it the straits settlements of various races and religions from all over the world, especially Asia.

We would be more developed, diverse, strong and cosmo compared to Australia if the British had done a HK on us.

The current system, rules, constitution and rukun negara were just put in place by UMNO to prolong their (fake and manipulative concept of) Malay Elite dominance, which is in actuality only for UMNOputra dominance; and to allow their divide and conquer tactics and methods to fester and disunite.

Ketuanan UMNO boleh! People deserve the government they get! Time for the people to rise and rebel!

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 18:00  

This is the reason why Monarchy must be abolished, in a progressive century of achieving true and secular democracy. The self-elected monarchy in Malaysia, with 9 Kings who are mainly millionaires, by selling many of state land that belong to the rakyat such as natural forests and seaside, to logging companies and developers, are a travesty of true justice, equality and democracy in a progressive modern world, and to the poor in Malaysia! And to fair and just-minded Islam.

Katharina Sri (former Noor Aza Othman)
Germany.

kuldeep 7 February 2009 at 18:14  

Imagine how unhappy you will be if you married a pretty young gal and finds her grandma waiting for you in the matrimonial bed...

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 18:39  

Oh, what a brilliant article you have written, Dato'...oh, you are really so clever...

I GUESS THAT'S WHAT YOU LIKE YOUR READERS TO SAY. NOT THEIR REAL VIEWS. "Yes men" culture all the way.

kuldeep 7 February 2009 at 18:48  

http://dinmerican.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/the-perak-crisis-an-unsolicited-legal-opinion/

very thorough commentary on 16/6

and further 16/7 seems to preclude the Sultan's any rights to dismiss an MB

For the sake of our royalty I hope these interpretation are incorrect and will be proven so if the issue goes to court.

Common sense will be that Najib must have sought the proper legal opinions before proceeding in the manner he did...and if the Sultan hv erred in anyway,I would presume he would be responsible enuff to advise the Sultan accordingly.

Royalist,  7 February 2009 at 19:05  

Sakmongkol is unsurpassed only when he claws Umno. Mention Anwar in some dimmed manner, lynching begins in earnest. Sultan Azlan has always been in held in high esteem. The son has for some years now drawn the epithet of the Reformist Royalty. Rule against an Anwar-backed Pakatan who has lost the majority in the State Legislature, both Sultan Azlan and son are now the subject of distasteful ridicule

Amazing this, the stranglehold Anwar wields on segments of population. He has built a sprawling reservoir to store up the country's insecurities, aggravations, prejudices and quantities of hate. Have a problem at work. No worries, blame the Governmment. Traffic jam, slam the Government. Astro disruptions, bantai the Establishment. Why? Because Anwar manages all those frustrations and direct them to Government. Anwar meanwhile has been let off for precipitating the defection-game.

An election in Perak will be held, as well as the nationwide polls. But let us sort out the economy first, protect and create jobs, send out the right messages to foreigners and domestic investors.

Why can't we have an election now? Because the Pakatan Government has always been untenable that remarkably survived until infighting erupted.

It is plainly ludicrous to suggest Sultan Azlan Shah and Raja Nazrin of being partisans. These are personalities with impeccable credentials. Millions, especially the young voters, are watching with dismay at the behaviour of the Anwar-inspired opposition to the Palace.

If forced to choose between Sultan Azlan and Anwar, vast majority of Malaysians will most definitely listen to the former Lord President.

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 19:49  

I support you. Salute

Dhahran Sea,  7 February 2009 at 20:23  

Tok Sak,
I'm just reminding the readers the very words that Sultan Azlan himself said a few weeks back: "The Raja2 must EARN the respect if the people; otherwise they will become IRRELEVANT." Its the people who decide whether to give respect to the Raja2/Sultans; and they on their part would have to EARN the people's respect... there is no such thing as "enforcing the people's respect to the Sultans"... maybe things have changed that the people no longer have respect for the Sultans & royalties nowadays? Maybe there have been too much "showing off" among the royalties when the rakyat have to suffer under Pak Lah, SIL & CO. for the past five years? Maybe they have decided Malaysia as a modern country in 21st century can no longer "afford" financially to have 9 Sultans (maybe just 1 will do)? Maybe, maybe... by the way the Sultans are DEFINITELY NOT MAKSUM... and the politicians, whether they are PR/BN are the same... they will exploit things to their advantage - that is granted. However, I strongly believe that the "right" to decide on this matter should be returned to the people; let them decide again in a state election. Also, whoever lompat should be buang negeri since they have pecah amanah of the people (and pancung saja for the betrayal of the amanah - Ibrahim Ali should be the 1st to go!! Same applies to BN MPs who lompat).

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 20:27  

Royalist said...
If forced to choose between Sultan Azlan and Anwar, vast majority of Malaysians will most definitely listen to the former Lord President.

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Dont be so sure. Why dont hold the election in Perak and see if Anwar/PR or UMNO/Sultan will win. Of cos this wont happen bcos UMNO knows they will be humiliated. The rakyat now are not so stupid. That's why UMNO is so scared to face the rakyat and hide behind the monarchy and play up the race card.

kuldeep 7 February 2009 at 20:56  

The issue is not about "frogging" and as to who started the "frogging" game.It is more of the question as to whether there is due process before Zambry was sworned in.

Many prominent personalities including Tun Mahathir,Tengku Razaleigh,Zaid Ibrahim,Prof Salleh Buang etc...have espoused that Nizar can only be dismissed after a vote of no confidence in the legislative assembly.Najib short circuited the process by going to the Sultan...It could be that the Sultan made a very wise and completely constitutional decision (and HRH knows his laws better than most and is very wise..I pray that it will eventually be proven in court to be so.)

Probably,UMNO is aware that even if a Dewan sitting is convened,the Speaker can preclude the three froggies on basis of the "resignation" letters.

Then it is up to the three to seek recourse through the courts to dismiss those pre-signed letters.

Meanwhile,the house is tied and will be unable to have a clear vote of no confidence on Nizar.And,Nizar would continue to remain the MB with the right to seek the Sultan's perkenan for a bubarring.

Now,the situation is so complex raising too many issues with years of court proceedings ahead and the rakyat will eventually pay the price.Have a read of Zaid's views in Malaysian Insider.

So please,its not about Anwar,Najib or the froggies cos if the "takeover"process was through the conventional due process then the rakyat will have more confidence that our leaders will look after us.

Now,UMNO will be harping and playing up that Anwar started the frogging game and was outplayed at his own game and Nizar and gang is derhaka to the Sultan.Thats not the crux of the situation we are in.

Lets not get caught in that as well.

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 20:56  

Hello ! This si not ISLAMIC country! This is Malaysia- a democratic country where every one can practise what ever religion they want. The monarchy is part of the Malay system here to stay. Stop your Talibanism and check the constitution...

Samuel Goh Kim Eng 7 February 2009 at 21:19  

SOME THOUGHTS FOR THE COURTS

Let's go around to court the courts
As they become the places of last resort
Where else can you deliver your retort
To have the chance of getting your rational thinking some thoughts

(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng - 070209
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Sat. 7th Feb. 2009.

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 22:04  

That's the problem nowadays. Anwar nak buat okay tapi bila terkena check-mate at his own game, marah. Not only him but his cohorts in pakatan & believers all over the country.

People talk about the law and yet when things do not go in their favour, expect a populist decision.

Strange but true. I've written so much at my blog. Kadang2 penat and wish I could ignore.....

Aziz 7 February 2009 at 22:05  

That's the problem nowadays. Anwar nak buat okay tapi bila terkena check-mate at his own game, marah. Not only him but his cohorts in pakatan & believers all over the country.

People talk about the law and yet when things do not go in their favour, expect a populist decision.

Strange but true. I've written so much at my blog. Kadang2 penat and wish I could ignore.....

In Defence of Unbiased Comments,  7 February 2009 at 22:37  

I'm a Chinese but I don't care much about all this racist sentiment because like each of the 27 million Malaysians, we have at some point took the oath and swore allegiance to the country. I don;t like UMNO but I know there's a reformis team in UMNO. I don't like Pakatan. But that's because I don't trust the deceiving Anwar. I have long memory. I don't forget who he was during Mahatir's era. I don't forget how he started all this hopping nonsense. In Perak, they hop to BN its all wrong. But for some reason if they hop and the Federal Government falls, its apparently legal, perfectly fine, no problem, bravado, etc.. You know what. That's BS. I don't like what's happening in Perak but it didn't start with BN. It started with PR. Look at them, even DAP and PAS is backing off a bit. Preferring if UMNO slog it out with PKR and not the entire PR. Simply put, politics is a load of BS.

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 23:18  

As a Perakian, I will support the HRH Sultan of Perak.
His decision is final,,,period.
Now, lets the new Kerajaan Perak run the show and see how they perform ?. Too much politics all these while and nothing good so far.

Anak Perak

Samuel Goh Kim Eng 7 February 2009 at 23:18  

HOW TO SHINE WHEN YOU CAN'T FIND VINE THAT BINDS

When silver loses its shine
What remedy can we all find
Since there'll be no grapes without the vine
With what cords can virtue any longer bind

(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng - 070209
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Sat. 7th Feb. 2009.

Anonymous,  7 February 2009 at 23:30  

You are right Dato', if left unchecked this culture of street politic will ruin this country.

To remain in this country, we must abide by:

Kepercayaan kepada Tuhan
Kesetian Kepada Raja dan Negara
Keluhuran perlembagaan
Kedaulatan Undang-undang
Kesopanan dan kesusilaan

If we are not happy, lets voice at the next ballot box!

Anonymous,  8 February 2009 at 00:10  

Hello, the Sultan is not a demi-god. He is a human being who happens to be born into a royal household. If he has done something wrong, why can't other fellow human beings criticise him? We no longer live in the dark ages where people kowtow to their rulers, regardless of what they have done.

Anonymous,  8 February 2009 at 00:41  

Dato, posting terbaru Anwar Ibrahim berbunyi" Constitutional crisis caused by the Sultan" yang jelas merujuk kepada DYMM Sultan Azlan Shah, Sultan Perak Darul Ridzuan.

Anwar cuba nak kelirukan orang ramai dari fakta sebenar: orang Keadilanlah yg menyebabkan seat mereka di Perak hilang. Tak malu sungguh Anwar salahkan Sultan demi nak cover kekurangan parti sendiri. Harap Dato war-warkan wayang Anwar kali ini.

RunnerfromKuantan

Mat Cendana 8 February 2009 at 00:51  

Usually I'd just quietly read the posts and comments here and then move on. But I simply have to leave a comment today.

It began with this one: @Anonymous 07 February 2009 15:10... He muttered that it's "Misleading" (sebab Post tak kena dengan kehendak dan selera dia Heheh!) and "propose go to search somemore blogs to read to understand if the BN & Sultan move is appropiate and justifiable".

Hey dude! Here's one to go to, if you REALLY really want to understand (and not "to find blogs that agree with what you already have decided to believe in"). Go and read here, by Dato' Shamsuddin Nawawi "Small Talk" Bolehkah MB ingkar Titah Sultan?.

And also this one: Nak Saman Sultan Perak?. It also shows why the opinion by Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah about the Sultan-MB is most likely wrong.

To Dato' Ariff: Well, you'll see from the previous few posts especially that you will never be able to please everyone.

And I'm amazed that some people expect you to just hentam Umno, the government, Najib... and be disappointed - and even angry - when you don't! What a load of BANGANG!...the same sort that condemns you when you are critical of Umno.

Well, just do what your heart feels right, Dato' - of what you honestly and sincerely feel is THE RIGHT THING. This way, you'll ALWAYS have a clear conscience.

Readers always have the choice of whether to read or not. If they don't like what you write, well, why not go to Blogger.com or Wordpress.com and start their own blog then?...They can write what THEY think should be written.

Are You Gonna Go My Way,  8 February 2009 at 01:21  

Pas dan PKR baliklah kepangkuan Islam yang sebenar....Dap tu biarjerlah...

UMNO pun kene balik kepangkuan Islam yang sebenar......

ROH dah kotor sangat tu....baru kene sikit dah marah2...Peringkat pertama nafsu pun tak dapat kawal...macam mana nak kenal Allah..

Berdoa sampai berbuih mulut...nak suruh Allah laknat orang tu..orang ni....Siapa yang hamba ni? Allah ke kita?

Ni duk suruh ALLAH jer....macam ALLAH tu hamba kau orang pulak...

Sebab tu lah orang Islam..duk kat situ jer...

ALLAH suruh kau mintak dengan dia...bukan kau suruh dia....ni duk asyik suruh Allah pasal Palestin lah, US lah, Israel lah..skrg pasal Perak lah.....
dapat dah ker..apa yang kau orang suruh.....

Mintak bukan suruh lah ......
Nak tahu perbezaannya? Hidup kan roh kau dulu yang dah lama mati...tak makan.

Anonymous,  8 February 2009 at 01:43  

Guano deme ni...benci kat Anwar sampai nuduh dia pulak yg menghasut. Jangan le awok ada masalah peribadi dengan dia...awak nambah pula nak ngutuk dia.

Kon nengok awok nak hentam dia sedangkan kat Perak tu isu rompakan.

Buat le pilihanraya habis cerita...tapi kalau berdasar prestasi semasa UMNO/BN akan kalah..tu yg kon rasa dihasutnya Sultan jgn benar bubar.

Rentile buat pedooh gitu weh...tahi tak boleh ditutup ngan nyiru lagi dah berbau jugek weh...

Kas undur diri dulu yek...

CicitPawangNong

Anonymous,  8 February 2009 at 02:35  

Tidak habis cerita rasuah pemimpin politik negeri Perak, timbul pula kisah lompat-melompat parti. Adun Bota Datuk Nasarudin Hashim yang memulakan langkah pertama dengan meninggalkan Umno pada Januari lalu untuk melompat menyertai PKR (sebelum melompat semua kepada Umno 10 hari kemudian).

Maka teramat marah Ketua Penerangan Umno Johor Dr Mohd Puad Zarkashi yang menganggap lompat-melompat di kalangan wakil rakyat sebagai perbuatan khianat kepada pengundi yang akan mencemarkan imej negara.

"Saya sedia memperjuangkan penggubalan undang-undang (anti-lompat) di Parlimen. Saya terdorong untuk berbuat demikian kerana saya juga adalah antara Ahli Parlimen yang cuba dipengaruhi oleh (Ketua Umum PKR Datuk Seri) Anwar Ibrahim," katanya kepada salah sebuah akhbar milik Umno yang disiarkan pada 27 Januari lalu.

Beberapa hari kemudian beliau mengulangi pendiriannya yang turut menyifatkan pemimpin Umno yang melompat parti sebagai individu yang tidak ada nilai kemanusiaan, tidak bermaruah dan seperti seekor katak.

"Mereka juga seperti penjenayah kerana mengkhianati kepercayaan yang diberikan pengundi sedangkan kerusi yang dimenanginya pada pilihan raya lalu atas tiket BN," ujarnya.

Ahli Majlis Tertinggi Umno Datuk Seri Mohd Shafie Apdal yang juga Menteri Perpaduan, Kebudayaan, Kesenian dan Warisan pula menyifatkan Nasarudin yang melompat menyertai PKR sebagai telah mencemarkan proses demokrasi yang diamalkan di Malaysia.

"Kepercayaan orang yang mengundi dia, bukan kerana diri dia sendiri, tetapi kerana kapasiti dia dalam parti yang diwakilinya yang menyebabkan dia menang. Manusia bukan seperti barangan yang boleh dijual beli," katanya di Kota Kinabalu pada bulan lalu.

Seorang lagi Ahli Majlis Tertinggi Umno Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim yang juga Menteri Luar mahu Nasarudin yang menang atas tiket BN meletak jawatan kerana ia melibatkan soal kepercayaan rakyat kepada calon pilihan mereka.

Pada masa itu beliau mendesak wakil rakyat yang melompat parti supaya mengosongkan kerusi yang dimenanginya.

Malah pemimpin parti yang mereka sayangi Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi pun turut mengutuk pemimpin Umno yang melompat parti dengan menyifatkan mereka sebagai orang yang gagal dalam perjuangan parti dan bangsa.

"Orang yang melompat parti pada saya dia telah mengenepikan perjuangan. Kalau orang kuat perjuangan , dia akan menghadapi apa juga keadaan. Orang yang begini memang lemah, satu contoh bukti kelemahan dan kegagalan dalam perjuangan," katanya.

Tetapi tak sampai seminggu kemudian, suara-suara garang anti-lompat dalam Umno lenyap sama sekali. Mungkin bagi mereka, apa payahnya jika sekadar menggoyang lidah yang tak bertulang.

Perdana Menteri pun mengubah nada apabila Nasarudin dan Adun-Adun pihak lawan pula yang melompat menyertai Umno (walaupun sebagai "Adun bebas yang menyokong BN"). Kini Abdullah menasihatkan Pakatan Rakyat supaya, "Terima sajalah. Dulu semasa pilihan raya yang lepas parti pembangkang telah menang, (kita dapat terimanya)," katanya kepada pemberita di Slim River, Perak pada Khamis lalu.

Malah, beliau memberi tafsiran untuk menghalalkan lompat parti itu dengan menyatakan bahawa: "Saya percaya ini bukan sesuatu yang akan dibantah, yang penting kita mahu kerajaan yang akan dibentuk itu mengikut undang-undang dan menjalankan pentadbiran dengan penuh tanggung-jawab serta memberi khidmat kepada rakyat." Berpuluh ribu rakyat Malaysia berkumpul di Kuala Kangsar, Perak semalam untuk membantah majlis angkat sumpah Menteri Besar BN.

Ketua Pemuda Umno Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein pula dengan bangga menyifatkan rampasan kuasa di Perak melalui lompatan itu sebagai kejayaan BN.

Menteri Pelajaran itu yang bertanggungjawab mendidik kira-kira 6 juta pelajar sekolah di Malaysia menganggap kejayaan BN di Perak sebagai bukti "keyakinan anggota Umno terhadap perjuangan parti yang tidak pernah luntur walaupun tewas dalam pilihan raya kecil Permatang Pauh dan Kuala Terengganu baru-baru ini".

Datuk Seri Najib Razak pula sebagai bakal Perdana Menteri sememangnya bangga dengan kejayaan Umno itu kerana ia menebus kembali kekalahan dalam pertandingan secara sah di Permatang Pauh dan Kuala Terengganu. Kejayaan ini mencerminkan betapa cemerlang, gemilang dan terbilangnya Umno dan BN dalam soal membeli wakil rakyat, menggunakan segala aparatus milik negara dan mengetepikan mandat rakyat semata-mata untuk menang.

Yang tidak kedengaran lagi ialah soal mahu mengharamkan lompat-melompat yang sebelum ini dikatakan oleh pemimpin BN sebagai pengkhianatan terhadap rakyat dan jenayah yang mencemari politik negara.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/opinion/wan-hamidi-hamid/17834-lidah-tak-bertulang

Anonymous,  8 February 2009 at 02:47  

FEB 7 — Historically, before the existence of Malaysia, the Malay states fell into the hands of the imperialists due to greed and power. It was about the power struggle amongst the royalty which eventually led to the colonisation of the states.

Pre-Merdeka, with the emergence of the insurgencies by the left, a "deal" was struck among the capitalists, the royalty, the royalists and the imperialists with the sole purpose of maintaining and guarding "their" positions and influence in Malaya. The collateral outcome of the "deal" was the independence of Malaya. It was a decision motivated by the need to protect and safeguard the vested interests of these actors. It was not about the rakyat. It has never been!

Fast forward 52 years after independence, we see how the same actors have again colluded to stage a modern day "coup" in the state of Perak. Again, this was not done in the interests of the rakyat. Those who have heard about the true colours and the personality/ies of the various decision-maker(s) will not be surprised by the recent decision(s).

Ultimately, one important question that needs to be answered is "what's in it for me?". That was the question that Pakatan Rakyat could not answer.

No doubt there are several legal and moral issues that have arisen from the Perak fiasco. But the real issue that irks the rakyat is the fact that the capitalists and the royalty have robbed the state government from the rakyat.

Regarding the legality of the Sultan's decision to call for the resignation of the menteri besar, I am prepared to say that the decision is wrong in law. Based on the Perak Constitution, the MB does not hold office at the pleasure of the Sultan.

The only way the MB goes is by way of a no-confidence motion in the State Legislative Assembly. The Sultan cannot just ask MB to vacate his office.

Article 16(6) of the Perak Constitution states that:

If the Menteri Besar ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the members of the Legislative Assembly, then, unless at his request His Royal Highness dissolves the Legislative Assembly, he shall tender the resignation of the Executive Council.

The question then is: who decides whether the MB ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the members of the State Legislative Assembly? Should it be the Sultan or the State Legislative Assembly? How and where should such issues be decided?

The answers to these questions are obvious. Matters of grave importance that affect the interests of the state should be decided in the hall of the State Legislative Assembly, NOT along the corridors or halls of the palace.

The next question then is: who holds the majority at the State Legislative Assembly?

To answer this question, one must first ascertain the status of the three so-called "independent" members who have tendered their resignations. There is a dispute in relation to their status as members of the State Legislative Assembly. Their views therefore should not be taken into account until their status have been definitely resolved.

Against this background, how can anyone say that the Barisan Nasional commands the majority?

Some have replied saying that since the Election Commission did not recognise the resignation letters of the three "independent" members, therefore they are still members of the State Legislative Assembly.

This throws up the further question whether the EC has the power and jurisdiction to adjudicate on the status of the resignations.

From the legal perspective, the EC has exceeded its jurisdiction. There is nothing under the Election Commission Act 1957 and the Elections Act 1958 that confers power to the EC to adjudicate on such matters. Consequently, the EC's decision on this matter is ultra vires and is of no effect. Unless the decision by the speaker to declare the seats vacant is set aside or overturned by a court of law, the EC must accept the decision of the speaker. However, we have witnessed how the EC has facilitated the "coup" by disregarding the speaker's decision.

Leaving aside the legal questions — on desirability — in view that the current political scenario in Perak is fragile and uncertain, coupled with the fact that there is no guarantee there will not be any further and sudden defections that may affect the composition of the State Legislative Assembly, the best decision to make is to have dissolved the State Legislative Assembly.

Unfortunately, wisdom may not be the virtue of some.

Who will benefit from this episode? The "decision-makers"? Those who "orchestrated" the situation?

Unless the question of "what's in it for me?" is fully answered, then no one will receive the truth.

The state of Perak was robbed by the capitalists and the monarchy.

The fate of the state should not lie in the hands of allegedly corrupted politicians and a Sultan. It should be in the hands of the rakyat! Let the people of Perak decide the fate of their state through fresh elections.

For the record, I am not a monarchist or a royalist. I have little admiration for slogans such as "Daulat Tuanku" and the related "mumbo-jumbo". Some may say that this article and the fact that I am doubting the wisdom of the Sultan of Perak may be construed as an act of "derhaka" (disloyalty). As far as I am concerned the issue of "menderhaka" does not arise.

And my reply is "derhaka terhadap siapa?" Can I "derhaka" towards an institution that I don't believe in? Can I "derhaka" towards an institution that ignores the will of the rakyat?

It is apt for us to be reminded of what Hang Jebat once said:

"Jangan! Jangan sembah aku. Aku bukan gila disembah. Aku bukan sebagai Sultan Melaka yang mengagung-agungkan pangkat dan kebesarannya. Aku Jebat, rakyat biasa. Pangkat aku untuk kepentingan rakyat. Bergerak aku untuk membuat jasa kepada rakyat, dan aku rela mati untuk rakyat.. kerana aku mahu keadilan, keadilan. Keadilan!"

The time is ripe for a revolution.

So are you game?

Salam revolusi! — www.loyarburok.com

Mat Cendana 8 February 2009 at 05:37  

Here's an interesting post for those bent on arguing the legal details and technicalities. It's by journalist Shamsul Yunos: Nizar sacked himself.

Among other things, he had written these intriguing lines:
"What happened here is an example of a lack of understanding of how the law works,

If you tell the Sultan that you no longer command majority, by asking for dissolution then you have basically shot yourself in the foot

which is surprising because I am sure that Pakatan has an army of lawyers, Karpal is famous , I was told Kit Siang is legally qualified and many others...."

Anonymous,  8 February 2009 at 05:59  

A FAILED state is a state losing its ability to govern and exercise authority. Text-book examples include Sudan, Somalia, Zimbabwe, Iraq and Afghanistan, countries that we would never compare Malaysia to.

The Fund for Peace, a US think tank, listed 12 indicators of state vulnerability.

Unfortunately, one of the state-vulnerability indicators, "criminalisation and/or delegitimisation of the state", is now emerging in the state of Perak. The resistance by certain elites to political representation, accountability and transparency, has led to widespread loss of popular confidence in the state's institutions and processes.

If police violence and political persecution are inflicted there on citizens defending democracy, then another indicator of state failure, "widespread violation of human rights", sets in.

Technically, Perak will never be a failed state because it is part of the federation of Malaysia and not a sovereign state. However, that is no comfort so long as there is a part of the Malaysian federal state that has failed.

This situation should not have happened in the first place. This year is not only the silver jubilee of Sultan Azlan Shah's reign, but also the golden jubilee of elected state government in Malaysia's second-oldest sultanate.

Regime change


Datuk Dr Zambry Abdul Kadir,
from BN, is the new Perak MB
(source: psuk-majlis.perak.gov.my)

As of 3.30pm on 6 Feb 2009, Perak now technically has two menteris besar — one democratically-elected, the other installed by the Barisan Nasional (BN) after claiming victory by defections.

An important principle to understand during such a political confrontation is that while it was the Sultan's prerogative to dissolve the legislature, this prerogative does not mean that the decision lies in his hands alone.

The royal prerogative is supposed to be a part of the larger constitutional check-and-balance mechanism between the executive and legislative in parliamentary democracies. The legislature, namely opposition members and government backbenchers, may bring down the government through no-confidence votes. In return, the government may seek dissolution of the legislature so that both sides face the judgment of voters.

The royal consent, or presidential/gubernatorial consent in republics, is merely supposed to prevent the chief executive from abusing this position. In other words, the discretion need not be exercised by the head of state — in Perak's case, the Sultan — when there is no abuse by the head of the government — the menteri besar.


Istana Iskandariah in Kuala Kangsar (© Pedro Plassen Lopes / flickr)

And who could be more authoritative in this matter than the former Lord President-turned-Ruler, Sultan Azlan Shah?

In his 2004 book Constitutional Monarchy, Rule of Law and Good Governance, the learned Sultan expressed his view categorically:

"Under normal circumstances, it is taken for granted that the Yang diPertuan Agong would not withhold his consent to a request for the dissolution of Parliament. His role is purely formal." (Emphasis mine).

Power to hire, not fire

Another principle to understand during the current public confusion is this: a menteri besar can only be removed by a vote of no-confidence in the assembly. The Ruler has only the power to hire but not to fire.

Not unlike what Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak has done in Perak in 2009, Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman orchestrated a revolt of Sarawak lawmakers against the outspoken Iban Chief Minister Datuk Stephen Kalong Ningkan in 1966.


Tunku Abdul Rahman
(public domain / wikipedia)

When the Sarawak state governor showed him a top-secret letter of no-confidence issued by 21 out of 42 legislators and asked Ningkan to resign, the chief minister refused. Ningkan said the letters were not tantamount to a vote of no-confidence in the state legislative assembly.

He was sacked by the governor but eventually reinstated by the Borneo High Court, which saw the necessity of a formal vote of no confidence.

In his judgement, Harley A-G OCJ ruled that the governor can only dismiss the chief minister when both these conditions are satisfied:

"(a) The chief minister has lost the confidence of the House, and

"(b) The chief minister has refused to resign and failed to advise a dissolution."

The principles about a no-confidence vote and royal consent are very much the core of parliamentary democracy and constitutional monarchy. Violating them is not merely changing the government of the day, it is changing the very political system we are in.

It then becomes regime change, not a mere government change.

Abusing Nizar for sticking to his guns will not do, for this is the exact circumstance the mechanism of dissolution is designed for.

And if the political system is changed via extra-constitutional means, it is effectively a coup against the current constitutional setting.

Crisis-turned-coup

Flowing from the principles discussed above, these are the facts:

1. Until and unless Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin is removed by a no-confidence vote or resigns of his own accord, he is the rightful and only menteri besar of Perak Darul Ridzuan. His executive council the only rightful government as per Article 16 of the State Constitution of Perak. This point has been categorically stated by the highly respected prince Tan Sri Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah.
2. Any act to vacate the office of menteri besar and the executive council, and any advice to that effect is extra-constitutional.
3. Even if sworn in, the new menteri besar and the new executive council are illegitimate.

All actions by all the actors have now become constitutionally significant, either for or against the highest law of the state.

Nizar and his executive council's attempt to carry out their business as usual is therefore the most patriotic and loyalist act in defending the state constitution, and by extension, parliamentary democracy and constitutional monarchy.

The Parliamentary Opposition Leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim is right that this is not a collision against the palace.


Nizar is being loyal to the rule of law
(© hussein / wikipedia)

On the contrary, Nizar will go down in history as a defender of parliamentary democracy and constitutional monarchy in the 481-year-old Sultanate of Perak, politically one of the most developed states since the 1950s. He is being loyal to the political system, to the rule of law.

The subjects of Perak and citizens of Malaysia who choose to stand by the loyal menteri besar are similarly upholding rule of law and the political system.

In 1984, the year that Sultan Azlan Shah succeeded the Perak throne, he aptly defined the rule of law when delivering the 11th Tunku Abdul Rahman lecture in November:

"The rule of law means literally what it says: The rule of the law.

"Taken in its broadest sense this means that people should obey the law and be ruled by it.

"But in political and legal theory it has come to be read in a narrow sense, that the government shall be ruled by law and be subject to it.

"The ideal of the Rule of Law in this sense is often expressed by the phrase 'government by law and not by man'."

The Sultan's refusal to dissolve the state legislative assembly upon request by the menteri besar was controversial. When the Sultan instructed the menteri besar to resign, the controversy became a constitutional crisis. But when the Sultan swore in the BN-installed menteri besar, he effectively conjured a new government to parallel the existing, democratically-elected one. This effectively turned the crisis into a "coup".

Pushing the constitutional crisis into a constitutional coup is disastrous both politically and economically.

(corrected) The last of such coups happened in Sabah in April 1985, half a year after Sultan Azlan Shah's speech. At that time, Datuk Seri Joseph Pairin Kitingan's Parti Bersatu Sabah won a slim majority. But in a dramatic development following the counting of votes, a delegation headed by Tun Mustapha Harun of the United Sabah National Organisation went to governor Tun Mohamed Adnan's official residence in the early hours of 22 April and got Adnan to swear Mustapha in as chief minister. Later the same morning, Adnan revoked the appointment and then swore in Pairin as chief minister due to huge public pressure.

The only democratic way out of this mess now is for the Pakatan Rakyat to challenge the legality of the BN government in court. The courts are the last resort to save democracy in Perak.

Ipoh, the next Bangkok

A growing crisis will not only reduce stable Perak in 2009 to a chaotic Sabah of 1985, but may also push Malaysia to become another Thailand.


The Government House in Bangkok during the siege by anti-government demonstrantors , August 2008 (© Craig Martell / flickr)

Constitutional crisis is costly. These are Thailand's estimated and expected losses from its 2008 crisis: a damage of USD8 billion in the entire economy in 2008; a 9% drop in tourist arrivals from 2008 to 2009; and possibly one million job cuts in the tourism industry in 2009.

A fresh poll will channel political passions into positive competition. So, why must we risk Ipoh becoming a Little Bangkok? Some may prefer a BN state government, but why at all costs? Why not just call for snap elections?

It's time for Sultan Azlan Shah's good sense from 1984 to prevail: "Government by law, not by man."

http://www.thenutgraph.com/perak-must-not-fail

zazaland 8 February 2009 at 07:17  

Anwar doing a 'Bastille'? Ooo ..la la...ça (ne) va pas la tête..

He does not even look like a Frenchman but more like a Frogman ...

Sokong The Good,  8 February 2009 at 09:01  

Reading the comments by a few of the anonymouses and the not-so-anonymous above, one feels the need to say:

You may disagree but say it without using improper words and being unfair. Respect the blog owner and other readers. Accusing people as "cheap shot" etc does not help your cause, whatever that may be.

Respect also the Sultan. His place and role has been determined by and written in the Constitution, both State and Federal, which we as citizens must abide by.

When disagreeing, try to justify your stand so that others may see your point, and may even agree with you.

Sounding like an old man? No, just promoting good values. Young people also can do it.

mekyam 8 February 2009 at 10:41  

salam tok sak!

beg your indulgence...

zazaland said... Anwar doing a 'Bastille'? Ooo ..la la...ça (ne) va pas la tête..
He does not even look like a Frenchman but more like a Frogman ...


peu importe q'il ressemble à un français ou une grenouille, zzl. c'est sa tête qui est importante. peut-être vous avez appris qu'il a une tête de plusieurs visages... et chacun est effronté? c'est tellement bien fait pour tous ses visages s'il perd sa tête! :D

[diBMkan lebih kurang utk tok sak: "tak kisahlah muka dia mcm omperancis ke mcm katak, zzl. yg penting kepala dia. mungkin pernah dengar yg kepala dia ada banyak muka... dan semuanya tembok kan? memang padan semua muka dia kalau dia hilang kepala!" :D]

sepadu,  8 February 2009 at 10:57  

Anonymous at 08 February 02:47 -

You said, "the Malay states fell into the hands of the Imperialists ... the power struggle among the royalty which eventually led to the colonisation of the states."

Don't blame the royalty alone. The Chinese towkays in Penang urged the British Resident there to intervene to protect their tin mining operations in Perak. This was used by the British to justify calling, with the implied might of the British Empire then, the Sultan to Pangkor, resulting in the Pangkor Treaty of 1874. The British brought "20 orang pemimpin China yang berkepentingan (tin mining) di Larut" to Pangkor. The Kapitan China was definitely there when the British talked to the Sultan and was present at the treaty signing. Historical records show these.

Regarding the current issue in Perak -

In disliking the allegedly corrupt politicians, you don't have to blame the Sultan. I also abhor corrupt politicians and party hopping, which, I imagine, involves a lot of immoral offers and promises. But the Sultan was doing his best under the circumstances of the party-hopping of the allegedly corrupt politicians that led to this situation in the first place.

The Sultan's place and role has been ennshrined in the Constitution, both State and Federal. As loyal citizens, we have to respect that and abide by the Constitution. Any changes must be carefully thought out, seriously and responsibly considered and the sensitivities of others fully taken into account to avoid racial tension.

Have you thought and considered the positive aspects and the potential role of the rulers in the maintenance of peace and unity in times of chaos, civil strife (God forbid) in this country?

Be fair to the Rulers. Even the Republicans are not perfect. George W Bush created havoc in the Middle East and caused immense suffering. The Sultans have not, and nobody is perfect. And have regard for the Sultan of Perak's knowledge of law and experience as a Lord President.

Best wishes.

rantong 8 February 2009 at 12:19  

Doa selamat agar penyatuan orang melayu tidak longgar oleh dakyah orang-orang kafir dan DAP.

"Segala kepujian dan kesyukuran dipersembahkan ke hadhrat-Mu ya Allah di atas limpah rahmah perlindungan kepada kami sekalian dengan aman tenteram, sihat wal’afiat dan selamat sejahtera. Kami memohon kepada-Mu ya Allah semoga diperkukuhkan perpaduan, dipereratkan persaudaraan dan diperkuatkan keazaman, hasrat dan cita-cita agar sentiasa mendapat keredhaan-Mu ya Allah".

"Kami juga memohon kasih sayang-Mu ya Allah agar jiwa dan kehidupan kami berada dalam aman di dunia agar kami dapat mengimarahkan bumi sepertimana yang Engkau perintahkan, maka daripada Engkaulah sahaja ya Allah kami memohon bantuan dan pertolongan".

"Kami dengan segala rendah diri memohon agar Engkau kurniakan kami dan hamba-hamba-Mu sekalian dengan taufik dan hidayah, sentiasa di bawah pimpinan dan petunjuk-Mu ya Allah, mudah-mudahan segala usaha dan amal yang kami tunaikan akan mendapat sepenuh kejayaan dalam keredhaan dan restu-Mu di sepanjang zaman".

"Berkatilah negara Malaysia ini dan rahmatilah di bawah perlindungan-Mu sekalian yang bersangkutan dengannya semoga mendapat pertunjuk dari-Mu ke jalan yang Engkau redhai serta dengan penuh kehormatan dan kesucian, di samping meninggikan syiar-Mu dalam semua bidang".

"Peliharakanlah kami dan negara kami daripada segala bala bencana. Jauhkanlah kami sekalian daripada segala ancaman dan pengkhianatan. Bersihkanlah negara kami dari segala anasir jahat. Pandulah kami semua ke jalan yang benar, adil dan saksama dalam melaksanakan tanggungjawab yang diamanahkan.".

"Kekalkanlah ya Allah kebenaran, keadilan, perpaduan, ketenteraman dan kemakmuran dalam negara bertuah ini".


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kuldeep 8 February 2009 at 14:16  

Is there really a difference between...

" ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the Legislative Assembly, " and "ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the members of the House of Representatives," ?

The operative difference is the inclusion and exclusion of the word "members"..

and what is termed as duress?

"Restraint or danger, actually inflicted or impending, which is sufficient in severity or apprehension to deprive a person of free choice, destroy his volition, or obtain consent only in form "

The crux is is "danger and the severity of it.."

To a layman like me..I suppose if all members don't have confidence in me regardless of the forum , then I must admit I have lost the confidence of the majority.

But then again as a layman,if I am not under the threat of physical harm I would also admit I was not under duress.I certainly would be aggrieved that if I did not agree,then I would not have the opportunity to get a salary/money.

Its really complex?

I guess thats why lawyers are called to the "bar" when they start and are still in "legal practise " even after years of working.

And I am also confused by the logic adopted by so many i.e "Anwar started it so whats wrong if we also do the same?".Reminds me of my excuses to my dad if I fought with my younger brother.."He did it first..."

Its a wonderful life.

Rahimi 8 February 2009 at 16:16  

too hypocrisy if u asked me about opposition. they are the first who mooted the jumps. have anybody remember, anwar empty promise of the great jump on 16 september 2008. everybody in opposition laud the move and for them its ok. now when the scenario change. BN took the blame. this is political hypocrisy of the opposition. dont play people emotion, because it will ruin the country. if this is opposition true face, what happen if they rule the country?

Gambang Man 8 February 2009 at 18:58  

I'm a follower of this blog since some time ago. I've seen how this blog has grown to be one of the high-profiled ones on Malaysian affairs. CONGRATULATIONS to the writer!

At the same time, this blog has attracted some hangers-on - the type that takes advantage to piggyback on your blog's popularity and using it as a vehicle to deliver their own agenda. There is nothing wrong in stating one's opinions. HOWEVER, I resent those who try to ram them down my throat.

Some of these `Comments' - they don't have much to do with the post's title. Rather, they are just cut and paste posts and comments from elsewhere that the senders want to spread as widely as possible. For instance, the ones from loyarburuk.com.

The right thing to do is to write a short note of it, and then provide a link to the full post or comment. Instead, these people have treated the blog as a dumping ground; taking advantage of the owner's no-moderation.

By the way, this and Husin Lempoyang are the few high-profile blogs that do not moderate comments. All the others do - Rocky's Bru, People's Parliament, Zorro, Demi Negara.

As a reader, I'm making an appeal that you delete comments which you feel do not address the post's title or specific comments here. For those who wish to quote something from elsewhere, the proper way is to provide a link, NOT sending everything in. This is close to spamming. Plus a question of copyright.

This isn't censorship - it's denying lazy freeloaders a ride at others' expense.

Thank you.

Sokong Others,  8 February 2009 at 20:09  

Gambang Man

What's wrong if people want to say a few words and then cut and paste a bit? It helps readers who may not be aware of the cut-and-paste info from somewhere else.

Readers can fast forward on those comments they don't like. Some may want to go thru all of them.

Dato deletes the comments that are completely unacceptable by his standard. See the 1st comment on this post.

Dato is increasing in his popularity now - 57 comments on this post in 30 hours. Let him enjoy the support he receives both pro and against comments (mostly pro) to his postings. The issues he raises are very relevant.

sakmongkol AK47 8 February 2009 at 20:40  

sokong others,
correction. i didnt delete the first comment, the author did.

i try not to delete comments unless it contains profanities and foul language. in the past i have deleted not more than 5 or 6 comments i think.
but i would like my commentators to write something relevant to the topic. as you can see, even if you hold contrary views to mine, your views are respected.
i havent gone through in detail yet over the comments, and will delete those that are not relevant. but, another correction to sokong others, i dont delete on account of comments being sub-standard. who am i to say, they are below standard? cheers.

Sokong Others,  8 February 2009 at 20:49  

Dato

Points taken. I stand corrected.

I like your blog and will continue to visit.

Cheers.

zazaland 8 February 2009 at 23:18  

Salam Dato'.

Tumpang lalu.

bonjour mek yam.
je suis contente d'avoir fait votre connaissance. s'il perd sa tête (avec ses plusieurs visages), peut être Allah a voulu lui dire "fait attention! tu n'es pas invincible. repens-toi".

(diBIkan utk Dato', it's something like this - hello mek yam, if he loses his head (with his 'multiple' faces), maybe Allah would like to tell him "be careful, u're not invincible. repent").

Every cloud has a silver lining.

Anonymous,  9 February 2009 at 21:39  

Dato,

What's your take on the 3 frogs? Have not read you addressing this core issue (if you have, I must have missed it).

Kongkor

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