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Monday, 8 February 2010

Dealing with Anwar


How?
Allow the due process of law to take place. Ignore the protestations, banner carrying demonstrations. Ignore the trial by old and new media on Anwar. Disregard the filth spewed from UMNO's cyber hit squad. They serve to give the equally venomous cyber writers on the other side a competition.
Ignore Anwar's facetious invite for the media to try him. The law marches on quietly and Anwar knows he is snared. His salvation is to accuse all this is a conspiracy. He needs the media to justify his conspiracy. He stays relevant so long as the media vilifies him.
Why haven't you commented by way of a blow-by-blow account of the trial? Spilling venom and all that?
Why should we kick a dead horse? Anwar is doomed. His Malay power base is slowly undermined. Look at his supporters out there at the courthouse. Hardly representing the Malay heartland. His flag bearer is Tian Chua.
Anwar remains a political asset if he remains free. To the west, Anwar is the emblem of democracy. The ignorant west insults us by treating Anwar as the representative of democracy. Can we treat Louis Farakhan or Father Jeremiah Wright as the definitive emblem of American democracy?
It insists that Malaysia must keep Anwar Ibrahim free if she is to qualify to be in the good books of the west. This unsolicited advice is similar to the insistence that we must bomb Iraq into democracy or that we must napalm Afghanistan to force it into democracy.
The west is silent as to the possibility that he has committed a wrong. It's a case of comparative justice. In the west, sodomy is not a legal wrong, but here in Malaysia it has always been. We are not going to judge the west if its citizens choose to bugger a lamp post. Sodomy is not justiciable in the West, but it is here in Malaysia. We will look at them as queers and give them at best, a quizzical look. We will treat them as amusements. But here in Malaysia, the law on sodomy has always been there before Anwar was even related to it.
Here in Malaysia, Anwar is needed and must be saved at all costs for only one reason- that the non Malay opposition parties have a means to keep Malays divided. UMNO doesn't have to do anything- Anwar is hurting himself already. He has enough ropes to hang himself. No need to give him additional ropes.
The best thing to do is to ignore Anwar. Let him deal with the law. Let him focus on his judicial system and a judiciary amenable to him.
Look also at his legal team? Where are the Malay/Muslim lawyers? Either Anwar doesn't trust them or the Malay/Muslim lawyers are keeping Anwar at bay with a 10 foot pole. Sulaiman Abdullah is treating Anwar like a leper.
But this is a legal case. It is very technical thing. They have real lawyers doing the works inside the courts. The cyber lawyers, the demolition crew from UMNO are not relevant. The filth-spewing macaws are doing a disservice to UMNO. Perhaps they may even be a liability if their activities result in a trial by the media. Indeed, we are playing right into Anwar's game by him making it out that this is all a trial by the media. Makes the task of the judge even more difficult as he will be caught by the web of being influenced by what the public reads.
Very sorry for not giving a blow by blow analysis. I don't support Anwar but I am only prepared to debate this issue on broad principles. Such as the principle of justice. Or the state of the judiciary. Which is much maligned because of the handiwork of tainted members of the judiciary. But to say the judicial system is wholesale useless, corrupt and ever ready to subvert the principles of justice, for the sake of kowtowing the master, that is a different matter.
Whether Anwar Ibrahim is guilty or innocent must be debated inside the court. That is the first principle. If Anwar brings this case, outside the confines of the formal courts, then he deserves to be condemned. Because you are trying to foist your own judicial system suited to your requirements whereas, we the rest face that same 'disreputable' judicial system.
But the tasteless vilification of Anwar, which betrays an utter lack of sensitiveness such as superimposing Anwar as one among a gay crowd, or the picture of an Anwar groping a lady's behind and many other tasteless and salacious characterizations will not endear the government with the public.
Our quarrel is with Anwar. You do that- you carpet-bomb indiscriminately, the collateral damage is on Anwar's family- his wife most of all, his children. Since the first time, we have never seen the son with the father. He is probably scarred for the rest of his life.
The jury is out already. They are not waiting for the court's decision. Now the public is divided over the issue. This trial is easily attributed to some evil machinations of the ruling government. As a result, the government's downward spiraling reputation is further entrenched. It has become irreversible. This trial for one section of the public, serves only as the final nail on the coffin.
The other part of the public has already made up its mind on Anwar. Whatever he does, this portion of the public has already disowned him. This part of the public does not need the court to affirm what they have already decided. That Anwar's chickens have come home to roost. They are resigned to the belief that Anwar is a serial homosexual.
So it's between the nail in the coffin and the chickens coming home to roost.
Don't think the government is insulated from this trial. It is seen as incapacitate. Further, instead of giving hazy broadsides, Rais Yatim must come out to say, the point by point trial in the 'public' courts, in cyberspace are subverting the due process of law. Aren't the brazen blow-by-blow accounts sub- judice? Give space to the Solicitor G from Rawang to do his job.
If we continue with the below the belt blows, the whole high jinks surrounding the trial betray the lack of probity on the part of the government. Yes, the GOVERNMENT. Why hasn't it taken any actions against the hecklers outside the court house? Why hasn't it taken action on those who carry out of blow-by-blow forensics on the case? Trial by the media (new and old) may well result in Anwar being acquitted.
The irony is the balding stupidity of the UMNO people may actually result in that. We give Anwar the acquittal by default.

48 comments:

donplaypuks® 8 February 2010 at 14:31  

"Sulaiman Abdullah is treating Anwar like a leper. ...Look also at his legal team? Where are the Malay/Muslim lawyers? "

That's very scurrilous. Sulaiman is a M'sian Indian Brahmin convert, NOT a Malay!!

And if you know Sulaiman personally and have spoken to his wife, you will know that his health is in serious question. In a very important case like this, a professional like Sulaiman would NOT jeopardise DSAI's chances of success if he is not able to give the case his full concentration and expertise.

While DSAI may not have any "Malays' in his defence team, what do you think of the support of lawyers like Harris ibrahim, Art Harun and others?

It's enough that DSAI is being defended by his true and tested team of M'sians. Their race and/or religion is TOTALLY irrelevant!!

I mean, if Saiful LOSES his case, should he take comfort that no Malay lawyers were in DSAI's team?

dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race

sakmongkol AK47 8 February 2010 at 14:44  

donplaypuks,

you r very proficient in the Englaish language as yr blog attests- i bever said sulaiman abdullah is a malay- i am saying that he is treating anwar- i said Malay/Muslim.
i know of Sulaiman Abdullah- he lectured Ghani Patail, lectured the present SG2 and you can see him walking his dog around Bkt Damansara. i know he is Indian and brother to Rama Iyer.
support of the lawyers you mentioned does not feature in the actual drama in the courtroom. one of the lawyer you mentioned shot to prominence after defending a certain former newsreader, someone not unknown to our friend the accused.

sakmongkol AK47 8 February 2010 at 14:55  

donplaypuks,

if you know sulaiman personally- as a professional he DOESNT want to defend Anwar because our friend changes story by the hour. if i were Sulaiman i wouldn't want to risk my integrity.
true, which race defend Anwar is not very important. i am only suggesting his waning support among Malays, the absence of Malay lawyers being an indicator.

eddy 8 February 2010 at 16:32  

Dato', I agree, the umno supporters in cyberspace should stand down not a bit, but a lot. This case must be seen as between the complainant Saiful and Anwar the alleged offender. The more they get too involved in cyberspace the more credibility they give to Anwar's fitnah campaign.

For Anwar suffice to say that "se-pandai-pandai tupai melompat lambat laun akan jatuh ketanah juga".

Patriot 8 February 2010 at 16:57  

Datuk Sakmongkol, no offence intended nor meant, but what I think is very good material if not for you, than for your readers:

Malaysia has forgotten Tunku, and Tunku would not recognise Malaysia – Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah

BTW I believe that "great leader" refers to Dr. Mahathir.

Don't know if you or your readers agree or not, Tg Razaleih is looking more and more like a real statesman, a PM we missed.

Patriot 8 February 2010 at 17:01  

BTW don't know if you want to know or not, but the comment section of your blog has changed drasticallyas viewed with Google Chrome,the best web browser I ever had especially for surfing the web. It is no longer possible to subscribe to comments. The formatting has also gone upside down.

has changed

Patriot 8 February 2010 at 17:02  

Probably due to some changes you did recently with the template.

Anonymous,  8 February 2010 at 18:19  

Excellent advice Dato'!

dogeared lawyer,  8 February 2010 at 18:30  

Haris Ibrahim a Malay? I wuz told he keeps an Indian middle name, does not practice Malay culture, and speak Tamil whenever he can.

Art Harun I no comment, he confused.

-- Dog-eared lawyer.

Anonymous,  8 February 2010 at 18:30  

Salam Dato',
Memang ada betul nya kita tegur blog2 yg dah terlalu.
What do these guys hope to achieve? Salah salah, terjadi scenario yg Dato' sebutkan.
These bloggers (they know who they are) are as bad as those jumping up and down shouting "kangaroo, kangaroo" before the trial even began.
Tolong lah, guys, have some decency. Kita pun malu tengok blog2 awak semua. Awak harap dapat support, entah2 orang benci jadi nya.

Fikir sikit ya.

Good one Dato'.

Anti-Homosexual Sodomy,  8 February 2010 at 18:34  

donplaypuks@,

you must be disappointed, as washington post must be, that homosexual sodomy is shamefully a crime in our beloved malaysia.

check out anwar's blog promoting washington post. looks like anwar is also disappointed just like you and washington post.

but heck, homosexual sodomy or for that matter sodomy IS a crime in many countries lah, not just Malaysia.

What dah?

Quiet Despair,  8 February 2010 at 19:20  

Stop, please stop giving this B...... your time of day.
He's not worth your thoughts or any Malaysians for that matter.
The thought of him makes me nausea.
Let him die a natural death.

Peter @ Enviroman 8 February 2010 at 20:36  

Related to "kangaroo" court: Tg Razaleih: "If any one of us was tempted to imagine that Malaysia had outgrown the sordid events of 1997, the government’s newspapers bring to our breakfast tables each day Sodomy 2, to remind us that after another decade of sloganeering, as Tunku Zain Al-‘Abidin pointed out, we have come full circle to find ourselves back at the doorstep of our debased institutions and a Constitution that is increasingly inoperative.

donplaypuks® 8 February 2010 at 22:08  

"Haris Ibrahim a Malay? I wuz told he keeps an Indian middle name, does not practice Malay culture, and speak Tamil whenever he can.

Art Harun I no comment, he confused.

-- Dog-eared lawyer."

Heh, heh, Heh! How they will spin this way and that. Dr.M also has an Indian ancestry but claims to be a Constitutional Malay. AAB has Chinese ancestry, the Tunku Siamese, Hussein Onn Turkish, all from their mother's side. So, why can't Haris be Malay?

Many Indian Muslims here have IC's classifying them and their childre as Malay/Bumiputra. Many IM's speak Tamil at home as do their Indian Muslim wives and children. Redhuan Tee claims to speak for the "Malays."

And if they are Malay like Art Harun, of course like Stalinistic Russia, you will say they are mentally unsound and confused and send them off to the asylum.

That's the mire you get stuck in when you embracethe race card!!

dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race

JH,  9 February 2010 at 00:17  

I'm not anwar or PR supporter but I think some so-called anti-anwar, pro-umno/government bloggers should stop the dirty game they are playing - name calling and indecent superimposed pictures.
And these guys are also saying they are fighting for the malays, protecting malay rights etc but malays should be ashamed for their lack of adab and budi bahasa.
Even if you/your master hate those politicians, at least have some respect for their families. TQ.

Anonymous,  9 February 2010 at 00:58  

someone, who is N O T Sulaiman, wrote, ..."That's very scurrilous. Sulaiman is a M'sian Indian Brahmin convert, NOT a Malay!!"...

this someone must regard himself as Sulaiman's keeper, it would seem.

perhaps, it's the reason he added, ..."And if you know Sulaiman personally and have spoken to his wife..."

but, the question is, If you do know Sulaiman personally... then, why speak to the wife?

odd fellow, this someone.

a M'sian Indian Brahmin convert... interesting... very interesting, indeed!

living proof of the caste-conscious racist of the Human Race...

"We are all of 1 race, the Human Race"... did you say?

yeah, right!

man... what an idiot!

Anonymous,  9 February 2010 at 01:26  

"if you know sulaiman personally- as a professional he DOESNT want to defend Anwar because our friend changes story by the hour. if i were Sulaiman i wouldn't want to risk my integrity."
-sakmongkol

Did Sulaiman tell you that? Do you know him personally? You give the impression that he did.

If people like Karpal etc are willing to risk their integrity, then you should be elated. After all it is the non malays who get the bad name.

Personally, I think you are just jealous.

Syed SP 9 February 2010 at 01:32  

Maybe I am missing something obvious, but isn't Raja Aziz Addruse is a malay? He replaces Sulaiman Abdullah.

http://anwaribrahimblog.com/2009/08/19/raja-aziz-addruse-is-anwars-new-lead-counsel/

Anonymous,  9 February 2010 at 01:36  

Published: Wednesday July 15, 2009 MYT 9:48:00 AM

Anwar’s counsel Sulaiman Abdullah pulls out of defence team (Update)
By M.MAGESWARI and LISA GOH

KUALA LUMPUR: Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s lead counsel Sulaiman Abdullah has pulled out of the defence team in the sodomy trial citing health reasons.

Anwar told reporters at the High Court public gallery Wednesday that Sulaiman had discharged himself for all cases, for the time being.

He said Sulaiman had called him at 6pm Tuesday to inform him of his decision and told him that he did not wish to delay the sodomy case.

On July 8, the much awaited high profile sodomy trial of the PKR adviser was again delayed because Sulaiman had to extend his medical leave as he was in KL Hospital for observation.

Sulaiman is still warded for giddiness and is currently believed to be undergoing several tests.

"Sulaiman told me that he did not want to delay (my case) and did not want to compromise (anything). He is concerned about his health. He asked me to think of a new lead counsel," he said.

Anwar said it was sad news for him as Sulaiman had been committed in handling his case.

"We have great confidence in him," he said.
________________________

So, sakmongkol, you will note that Sulaiman Abdullah has "discharged himself for all cases, for the time being."

Since you know him personally, and he confides in you, let us know what ails him please. Or was "integrity" Sulaiman shamming?

Thank you.

Patriot 9 February 2010 at 01:52  

Related to "kangaroo" court: Tg Razaleih: "If any one of us was tempted to imagine that Malaysia had outgrown the sordid events of 1997, the government’s newspapers bring to our breakfast tables each day Sodomy 2, to remind us that after another decade of sloganeering, as Tunku Zain Al-‘Abidin pointed out, we have come full circle to find ourselves back at the doorstep of our debased institutions and a Constitution that is increasingly inoperative.

Patriot 9 February 2010 at 03:05  

Looks like you are convinced that Anwar is gay. Hope you will post in the future your basis for believing so that we your readers can judge if that is justified for we may not have as much info as you may have.

Great that at least you have not written that FORCED sodomy on Saiful is a done deal.

"Anwar is needed and must be saved at all costs for only one reason- that the non Malay opposition parties have a means to keep Malays divided."

We ABM (Anak Bangsa Malaysia) have no motivation nor desire to keep Malays divided.

We ABM too hope that while you may think that at this point of time it is necessary to keep Malays distinct from Malaysians, I anyway fervantly hope that you as a UMNO Malay leader may slowly tend towards struggling as Malaysians to bring badly needed reforms to your (and I hope you will say mine too) country.

Great that at least you are not "insistent" that the judiciary is sterling,
and I certainly pray that we eventually get one which we use to have and which had the respect of the rest of the Commenwealth, for a lawyer has told me a client had told him since he cannot guarantee that he would win, he would seek another lawyer. For just imagine if we and our family ever need the aid/protection of the tainted judiciary, I am sure I would be shivering.,

"The other part of the public has already made up its mind on Anwar.

I for one would maintain that I do not have enough info to make up my mind yet as whether Anwar is gay, but dearly hope that if you have strong evidences/info, that you would be prepared to share with with me/us.

"I am only prepared to debate this issue on broad principles. Such as the principle of justice. Or the state of the judiciary"

Hope you will continue in this vein for it is a pleasure to read someone doing such.

"to say the judicial system is wholesale useless, corrupt and ever ready to subvert the principles of justice...

I for one don't think I have ever insist that, but glad that you no longer imply the late Augustine Paul is sterling.

"If Anwar brings this case, outside the confines of the formal court..."

But if one is being tried by what one perceived as a tainted judiciary, and one believes self to be innocent, what else would you expect him to do?

"But the tasteless vilification of Anwar,.."

There you are, don't you think that when one says that the prosecution is political, one is justified, for the motivation of those vilifications would definitely be to discredit Anwar so as to end his political life, don't you agree?

You do reason well, although at times our opinions differs.

The other part of the public has already made up its mind....

I would say as for myself, let us have the evidences, but like you, what actions and words of the prosecution and part of your side makes me tend in that direction.

Rais Yatim (#yorais)? I think you are much more intelligent that is bloke dispite him being a Minister and you are not.

mekyam 9 February 2010 at 03:19  

tok sak said: "He needs the media to justify his conspiracy. ... Why haven't you commented by way of a blow-by-blow account of the trial?

for just the transcript, here's the site to go:

http://malaysianstory.wordpress.com/

tok sak said: "The ignorant west insults us by treating Anwar as the representative of democracy. Can we treat Louis Farakhan or Father Jeremiah Wright as the definitive emblem of American democracy?

love this riposte!

Anonymous,  9 February 2010 at 08:43  

because the best lawyers are not malays

Anonymous,  9 February 2010 at 08:46  

oral sex is a crime in malaysia!

I bet you are guilty or giving and receiving as well. What do u have to say about this?

HYPOCRITE!!

Hoping to be fair and objective 9 February 2010 at 08:54  

"“We will have to work hard to give the correct picture as what the public are getting from the local media could be distorted. "

Don't you agree Datuk Sakmongkol?

Source: Anwar's trial: Application to disqualify judge

Anonymous,  9 February 2010 at 12:28  

donplaypuks,

sy tak rasa anda "stupid", tapi kadang2 cara anda berhujah dan membuat bantahan kepada perkara bukan2, buat saya berfikir anda masih kanak2 disekolah tadika...

You are overflown with emotional feelings, hinggakan ayat2 anda tidak nampak matured dan termasuklah isi2nya sekali.

Org2 Melayu adalah mereka2 yang hidup bertatacara Melayu dan mengamal adat istiadat Melayu dan Islam.

Jika masih bercakap Tamil, tidak lah dikatakan Melayu lagi. As simple as that. If donplaydunks, punya ancestor chinese or indians, tapi berkahwin campur dengan bapa Melayu sebagai contohnya, dan anda pula bercakap dan mengamalkan cara hidup Melayu dan beragama Islam, anda layaklah menjadi Melayu, lagipun anda berbapakan seorang Melayu.

Negera Malaysia ini, selama 50 tahun lebih, dikuasai oleh kaum majoriti, iaitu Melayu Islam.

One have to accept the fact, and ketidakupayaan untuk menerimanya, menampakkan ada sesuatu yg tak kena di fikiran anda.

Fakta juga, negeri ini dipunyai oleh zaman berzaman dan fakta juga mengenai hak istimewa Melayu kerana kami adalah penduduk asal tanah Melayu ini.

Telah terbukti menjadi fakta juga, kerana selama 50 tahun anda bernaung di sebuah negara yg majoriti adalah Islam anda dapat menikmati hidup yg sempurna selama beberapa abad sejak nenek moyang pertama anda menjejak kaki ke tanah melayu ini.

Masalah sekarang, adalah kerana orang orang seperti donplaypuks, tidak berpuas hati dengan hak istimewa Melayu dan mahu merampas kuasa atas kononnya memberi hak sama rata. Saya berpendapat hak istimewa Melayu adalah satu hak yg tidak boleh dipertikai sama sekali oleh kaum2 bukan Melayu.

Setengah2 Melayu, patut juga saya melahirkan rasa sedih, juga tidak mahu hak ini kerana berasa, dek kerana istimewa inilah melayu mundur. Saya amat menyangkal dakwaaan ini, apa yg kita lihat Melayu di hari ini adalah kerana perjuangan pemimpin2 sebelum ini yang ingin melepaskan Melayu dari kemiskinan.

Sayugia dingatkan, hentikan lah dari memandang rendah kepada bangsa sendiri.

Cuba lihat apa yg berlaku disekeliling, itu baru satu negeri dikuasai oleh DAP, parti PKR yg dikongsi oleh PAS dan DAP, tengok apa yg berlaku? Puak yg majoriti tidak dapat berkata apa, yang ini saya amat malu. Ini baru boleh dikatakan lemah.

This is about the minority wants to topple the majority for power atas sebab2 yg tidak sihat.

Saya amat berharap kerajaan seperti dahulu diteruskan dan bukan pakatan mengarut DAP, PAS dan PKR yg berlainan idelogi.

Dan saya teramat suka jika Malaysia mengamalkan sistem perundangan Islam, supaya donplaypuks tahu langit itu tinggi atau rendah. Ini saja cara untuk menekang ideologi busuk mereka, who ever they are.

Dan satu lagi, org Melayu dahulu ada mencipta ayat begini..

"Kera dihutan disusukan, anak dirumah mati kelaparan..."

Nampaknya inilah yg berlaku sekarang, kera memberontak tak sedar diuntung dan mahu anak kepada orang yg memberi susu itu mati kelaparan...

Jadi, si pemberi susu patut sedar tatkala ini, dan tidak menjadi lemah atau takut kepada kera..

Keana kami anak2, akan membantu ibu bapa kami. Jika tidak tanah melayu akan dipenuhi kera-kera yg mengambil hak kami. Kera-kera ini tak pernah tahu sejarah silam, walaupun kita dah ajar membaca mengira dan dibuat rumah cantik untuknya. Kalau dah pandai baca pun dia buat2 lupa, dan keluarkan isu lain.

Orang Melayu memang pakai tongkat, kera memanglah tak pakai tongkat, sebab mereka jalan dengan semua kaki dan tangan, jadilah 4. Kita tambah tongkat jadi 3...Cukuplah tu walaupun tak sehebat 4.

Ini tanah kami, kami yg tentukan hala tuju, telah terbukti selama 50tahun.

Lebih sempurna lah atok, kalau Malaysia mengamalkan sistem Islam. Ini yg kami mahukan.

Anonymous,  9 February 2010 at 12:35  

when ai was in melayu umno all these racists attacked him as racist. now since ai is fighting melayu umno, all these racists are taking sides with him. eat shit and die. the issue ia less complicated. ai is a homosexual and a philanderer - an adulterer. he can bugger a goat for all i care. but this is what he did wrong : in 1998 he used his power as dpm to get the sb to arrest and torture an innocent woman and his ex driver because they had signed statutory declarations (with signature etc) accusing him of sexual misconduct and homosexuality. For this abuse of power he went to jail for 6 yrs. but he lied to us all. he said he did not do it. he blamed everyone especially dr mahathir. if dr mahathir wanted to get rid of him it would have been easier - just drop him from the cabinet. anwar would have died. but he was actually a homo and an adulterer.

there is a loose end overhanging from 1998 - anwar fathered a child with syamsidar. yes afifah is the living proof of anwar and syamsidar's liason, with the blessing of the husband azmin. anwar and azmin then switched blood samples to fool the DNA test over the child's paternity. this chapter is not over yet. just wait.

then 10 judges across three courts agreed that he had committed sodomy. but the bush administration's pressure on abdullah badawi saw anwar getting an early release. so much for judicial independence under badawi.

now anwar is in a real pickle. it does not matter who is saiful or how the sodomy happened, but how did anwar's semen sample get into the little bottle that was held up as evidence in court the other day. can someone explain this mystery? how does one's semen end up in little bottles like that - in a court room?

again who cares if he buggered a goat or saiful. but the lies, his accusing others of conspiring against him, of the whole country ganging up against him, faking a non existent medical report - is this the man that the racists look up to as the slayer of their hated melayu umno?

donplaypuks® 9 February 2010 at 15:41  

"..then 10 judges across three courts agreed that he had committed sodomy. but the bush administration's pressure on abdullah badawi saw anwar getting an early release. so much for judicial independence under badawi."

I wish this, Dr.M's silly and illogical argument, would not be parroted by others.

In the recent Adorna properties case review 2 weeks ago, the Fed Court reviewed its own 2001 decision and reversed the pathetic and grossly unfair decision made by that infamous ex-CJ Eusoff Chin. In reversing that decision, current CJ Zaki described it as "blatant and obvious."

So, the recent Adorna decison of the apex court renders all the other 10 previous judges' decisions completely WRONG!! That's the same implication with the 10 judges in Anwar's case - they were utterly wrong because that's what the Fed said.

Also, judges can't say they found Azizan, the driver, an inveterate liar and still write they believe depraved sexual acts took place based on uncorroborated testimony!!

Remember too that Azizan was convicted of Khlawat right in the middle of Anwar's trial! What does that make of his statement that he was testifying on higher moral ground. Sheesh, people, you can't spot a liar and conspiracy when you see one?

Sometimes a judge makes a mistake, and once in a while many judges make a huge mistake.

dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race

Anonymous,  9 February 2010 at 16:29  

Bagus juga kalau ada perbincangan mengenai Islam antara PAS dan UMNO.

Kedua2nya kena berfikiran positif atas dasar perpaduan ummah dan menyelamatkan Malaysia.

Berbincanglah dengan sebaik2nya. Moga kita semakin kuat dan kukuh kembali. Bertindak tegas kepada pengacau keamanan, baik yg menghina agama dan mencelarukan agama. Stabilkan pentadbiran negara, kukuhkan ekonomi, tengok anak2 Melayu kita, pastikan kemajuan.

Jangan lagi ada Melayu yg memandang rendah pada bangsa sendiri. Kerana jika ini berlaku, anda hanya akan memburukkan keadaan dan org lain apa lagi akan bertepuk sorai.

Penyatuan yg utama adalah penyatuan saudara seagama, kemudian baru sebangsa. Di Malaysia, amat beruntung, tidak seperti negara lain, penyatuan ugama langsung merangkum penyatuan bangsa.

Anonymous,  9 February 2010 at 16:38  

heran aku dengan donplaypuks ni, semangat berapi-api menyokong anwar.. ada apa2 ke? heh

donplaypuks, memang semua sama human race, tapi dalam human race tu ada baik, ada jahat, ada kena rasukan syaitan. Itu la bezanya. Jadi bagi yg termakan hasutan syaitan, ada balasan di dunia. jugak di akhirat.

sibuk2 mengalahkan judges lagi.
Bising la kau kat situ, takda sapa nak layan.

Anonymous,  9 February 2010 at 17:01  

someone wrote, ..."Sometimes a judge makes a mistake, and once in a while many judges make a huge mistake"...

so true, acute observation... that's why the case has been delayed 18 months and counting.

"Can I duck you today?"

Quiet Despair,  9 February 2010 at 17:45  

I suggest donplaypuks@ spend a night with al-juburi.
The folowing morning. he will be shouting someone played my puks.
He will be rushing to Michael Chong of the MCA.
He will be going to Tong Shin Hospital.
He will not shit for five days.
If you taste the medicine like Saiful, you will learn how to SHUT UP.

donplaypuks® 9 February 2010 at 21:28  

"..if you taste the medicine like Saiful, you will learn how to SHUT UP." Quiet Despair.

But bro, Saiful didn't shut up. He went to the police and filed a case. So, wtf are you talking about?

dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race

donplaypuks® 9 February 2010 at 21:35  

Anon 17.01

"NST: MARCH 5, 2009: High Court judge Datuk Mohamad Zabidin Mohd Diah allowed the prosecution to transfer the case to the High Court.

MARCH 10, 2009: Anwar claims trial in the High Court and Zabidin fixes hearing from July 1 to 24."

So, the trial has not been DELAYED by Anwar for 18 months.

The first delay from July 2008 to March 2009 was because the AG was not supposed to be involved in the case and then he appealed the judge's decision NOT to transfer the case to the high Court!

Between July 2009 and Jan 2010, the case was delayed again because the AG refused to hand over documents under Discovery Procedures etc., as required by law, a matter which is now still under appeal!

Get your facts right man!!

You can get the time line at:

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/7timli-3/Article/index_html

dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race

Anonymous,  9 February 2010 at 22:14  

Datuk
with all respect.stick to the MCKK stories.If u continue to churn this kind of articles,then u are no different than the people who dont give a damn about democracy in this beloved country of ours.

Anonymous,  10 February 2010 at 00:00  

Hmmm… gua cuma terfikir beberapa perkara saja dari keterangan budak sepol ni…;

1) Kalau Anwar yang menutuh Sepol, sepatutnya KY Jelly itu pasti berada dalam simpanan Anwar, dan polis kena rampas dari Anwar bukannya di ambil dari Sepol. Kenapa pula Sepol yang simpan KY Jelly…. dan berikannya pada polis…. he..he..he…. kepala otak gua mula negatif ni… adakah dia gunakan KY Jelly tu untuk ….. lu orang tafsirkan sendiri….

2) Kenyataan keduanya pula, “seluar dalam berwarna kelabu jenama Levis di ambil di tepi mesin basuh di rumah tunangnya”. Ha..ha..ha… baru tunang beb… seluar dalam dah ada di rumah tunang…, kalau dah nikah tu lain lah ceritanya…, ini pun lu orang tafsirkan lah sendiri… – ISA

i) Isu KY Jelly:Jika kisah liwat meliwat ini benar, saya kira yang jadi peliwatnya ialah Sayfool, manakala yang jadi mangsa liwatnya ialah Anwar. Ini kerana berdasarkan keterangan di mahkamah, Sayfool yang menyimpan KY Jelly dan bukannya Anwar. Mana mungkin mangsa liwat yang mengusung jeli haram jadah tu ke sana sini? Jika dalam kes rompakan, pistol dijumpai di tangan seseorang, bolehkah kita katakan orang yang memegang pistol itu bukan perompaknya? Jadi dalam insiden di Kondo mewah itu, pemilik jeli itulah (Sayfool) yang sepatutnya menjadi orang yang dituduh. Apa lagi Sayfool ini orang muda, yang secara fizikalnya lebih kuat dari warga tua seperti Anwar yang sekali kena tendang, sudah boleh patah pinggang!

ii) Isu seluar dalam di rumah tunang: Sekali lagi kredibiliti Sayfool sangat meragukan. Mengapa Sayfool londeh dan tinggalkan seluar dalam di rumah tunang yang bukan muhrimnya? Bukan nak menuduh, tapi ia menimbulkan pelbagai andaian... Jika dalam isu KY Jelly, boleh diandaikan Sayfool yang meliwat Anwar, dalam isu seluar dalam ini, siapa pula yang meliwat dan menjadi mangsa liwat hingga Sayfool terpaksa melondehkan seluar dalam di rumah tunangnya?

Itulah Sayfool, lain kali sebelum beri keterangan di mahkamah, fikir masak-masak dulu. Jangan terlalu bergantung sangat dengan skrip yang puak itu sediakan, nanti Sayfool sentiasa nampak fool!

-PGK

sakmongkol AK47 10 February 2010 at 07:01  

anon 22:14

with due respect,
is this the same reasoning like Anwar Ibrahim is responsible for democracy in Malaysia and in like manner, discussing about MCgaygay furthers the cause of democracy? MCKK isnt the centre of the universe.

Patriot 10 February 2010 at 07:33  

Datuk, See what direction our country is heading: Malaysia veering towards instability

walla 10 February 2010 at 08:27  

http://is.gd/82Vq2
http://is.gd/82Vy9

Quiet Despair,  10 February 2010 at 08:35  

donplaypuks@
You moron. You dont get my drift.
What I meant is if you were sodomised like Saiful was, you will shut your trap.
You wont be championig the sodomist.
Now you have carte-blance denigrating Saiful.
So go sleep with him. You got sodomised and the whole world will know.

Anonymous,  10 February 2010 at 11:02  

PGK


Jika kes rompakan memanglah begitu, anda betul. Secara bandingan boleh disamakan dengan kes rogol.

Tapi utk kes2 yg bukan rompakan @ secara bandingan bukan kes rogol. Siapa yg menyimpan pistol atau bandingan dengan lain perkataan rela dan rela paksa, ada bezanya.

Jadi, tak mustahil sepol simpan KY Jelly sebagai bukti dan juga bukti2yg lain. Ini menunjukkan ia ada berlaku.

Lagipun, kalau tak salah, kenapa mesti nak tangguh banyak kali. Setiap kali bukti keluar, mesti kena tangguh sebab nak cari bukti lain utk melawan dakwaan sepol. Ini yg menjadi heran nya.

Anonymous,  10 February 2010 at 11:08  

Tapi aku respek la dengan Saiful, sebab dia remain tenang dan confident.

Tenang dan confident bukan boleh dibuat2 walaupun pakai skrip, tambah2 kalau bersalah atau berlakun.

Tak selamanya org boleh berlakun. Tapi tengoklah body language dan air muka Anwar. Itu saja dari pandangan mata hati aku.

Anonymous,  10 February 2010 at 11:16  

The Malaysian insider views are dangerous man!

Bila kita semakin mula dan ingin bersatu, ada kata2 nista dan plagiat dan dikonon kan untuk menambah bisa.

UMNO and PAS mesti cepat dan bijak.

Anonymous,  10 February 2010 at 12:10  

someone is working overtime defending his PKR "dewa."

either your eyesight is failing you or your brain is so screwed up that you can't read...

this excerpt from the link that you gave:

JULY 8, 2008: Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim claims trial at the Kuala Kumpur Sessions Court to sodomising Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan at Desa Damansara Condominium in Bukit Damansara between 3.01pm and 4pm on June 26, 2008.
He is on bail after placing a personal bond of RM20,000 with no surety and his passport was not impounded.

SEPT 10, 2008: Anwar's former lead counsel Sulaiman Abdullah argued that Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail, who signed a certificate to transfer the case to the High Court, was not supposed to be involved in the case.


so, from Sept 10, 2008 till Feb 10, 2010 is 18 months!

your PKR "dewa" and his team of 13 senior lawyers have been trying all tricks to delay this trial since Sept 10, 2008... it's a FACT.

we all know dpp is madly in love with his PKR "dewa"... but that's his problem... but, please don't lie to us.

dpp should be the one to get his facts right!

"Can I duck you today?"

Anonymous,  10 February 2010 at 14:27  

AI bukan gay laaa, dia bisexual. Haiya susah mahu faham ka, punya billion manusia2, tiada ka orang ini macam wujud didunia ini. Dia ini dua2 (lelaki/wanita) pon boleh sapu punya, selera kuat maa...tengok itu budak saiful, manyak cute, lagi sudah naik 180 laa, tidak kira umor sudah sampai 63 tahun. 'Bolehland'

Anonymous,  10 February 2010 at 22:12  

Sad lah. The vigour with which Donplaypuks ass-kiss Anwar while at the same time spew hateful comments about Dr Mahathir (to this pundee, NOTHING that Dr M did was good) is nullified by his last phrase: we are all of one race. Because had he put the same amount of vigour to fight the very anti-thesis of this statement of his in the case of his fellow countrymen from Mother India in handling the caste system, he probably could be taken as a bit serious. But then, “Equality of Race” to him applies only to the malays. Not the obnoxious caste system that his grand auntie in Chennai practices.

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