Wanted to write on this a few days ago. The secret is out. Dato Nazri Aziz, who took over as the defacto law minister after Zaid resigned, told the Dewan Rakyat today that RM10.5 million was paid out to the judges. The facts are as follows:-
- Salleh Abas, the former Lord President, received the highest amount - RM5 million.
- Supreme Court judge, the late Tan Sri Wan Suleiman Pawan Teh RM2 million.
- George Edward Seah Kim Seng got RM2mil
- Tan Sri Wan Hamzah Mohd Salleh- RM500,000
- Tan Sri Azmi Kamaruddin RM500,000
- The late Tan Sri Eusoffe Abdolcadeer - RM500,000.
Now, sakmongkol reads of the above and he is flabbergasted. It is now confirmed, everyone has his price. Judges and common men, plebeians and patricians- they are all the same after all. Even for one who has always pompously and indeed piously advertise to the world, his sanctimonious integrity. He got the highest kickback to assuage his hurt feelings all those years.
Now, sakmongkol thinks the best service they can give to society is to give all the money to charity. If they had integrity at all, they could have refused the ex gratia payment.
The whole idea of paying the aggrieved judges is not based on some misty eyed idealism about justice, or about reinstating lost integrity and honour. It was all about, putting a price on an elaborate attempt to besmirch Tun Mahathir.
And sakmongkol has another question. Why should we insist that in all other transactions, we shout till we are blue in the face there must be transparency and yet, when it comes to money being paid to judges, we want to shroud it in secrecy? Is that a judicial equivalent of honour among thieves or the judicial mafia’s omerta?
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ReplyDeletewas the RM82,000 Bar Council dinner a form of bribe??
ReplyDeleteand BC claims to be champions of freedom of speech, fairness, blah blah blah
their deafening silence, on the secrecy of the exgratia payment speaks VOLUMES
after all they had attended the dinner right??
AM BIG A should lend her golden voice to this issue very soon
How was this decided?
ReplyDeleteHow can the Bar Council or Zaid just overturn the tribunal's decision?
Was there an investigation,etc, etc..
Isn't this a mockery of the "rule of law"?
In 1963, our class reads Catcher In The Rhy.
ReplyDeleteEverybody is equal.
But I am more equal.
Somebody beats me to the gun.
Me being categorized as 'everybody'
I'll have to wait for another 1000 years then.
I'm not an especially religious person, but I am reminded of the fact that kalau "nawaitu" tak betul.....
ReplyDeleteNow it's blown up in their own faces -- The giver's and the recipients'.
No wonder the payout was top secret. Five big million. And pension to boot.
-- MsianTaxpayer who also wants to be a gentleman farmer
Salam Dato' dan pengunjung yang dihormati,
ReplyDeleteSaya setuju dengan pandangan Dato yang meyarankan supaya mantan-mantan hakim ini mendermakan wang ex-gratia itu kepada pertubuhan-pertubuhan kebajikan. Lagipun mereka masih mendapat berberapa pencen.
Tetapi sekiranya tindakan mereka menyimpan wang itu sebagai tindakan bagi memburukkan nama Tun Dr. Mahathir, maka tiada apa-apa yang istimewa tentang mereka.
Terima kasih.
It is absolutely ridiculous.Should all those sacked be given this kind of payment.
ReplyDeleteIf it was wrongful dismissal than they should have gone to court and the court should decides whether they should be compensated.
Salam Sakmongkol,
ReplyDeleteI got sick to the bone looking at the amounts paid to these judges, especially to salleh abas, and from the taxpayers money too!! You are right, this whole act by zaid ibrahim to smear TDM in the name of judicial reforms smells like sh#@!
duit rakyat pun nak kebas..
ReplyDeleteAll comments here sound a bit immature in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteThese judges were sacked during the process of taming and controlling of the judges... and wrongly put out of action.
It is not the money that matters, it is wrongful dismissal the government could no way to admit their wrongs.
So the best compensation for an unjust acts was to provide some sort of monetory compensatioin.
By right , my opinion is that the amount should have been more. had the judges brought such actioins into a western court , I tell you the compensation would have been tens if not hundreds of millions for wrongful acts on persons of high standing in society.
These judges do deserve more than what is compensated and you guys dont be so narrow minded and really think these are YOUR MONEY.
By right they could have sued to get ten times as much.
Hey Anon 21.04,
ReplyDeleteAre you related to any of the judges?
If they are so so so right, why didn't they take their case to court and get those hundreds of millions that you talk about...
i hope all of them rot in hell for taking that money. you can join them too.
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ReplyDeleteDato' Sir,
ReplyDeleteWhy Dollah took four years at office to realize that those judges had been wrongfully dismissed?
Since it was public money, why made it secret in the beginning?
Will true justice prevail through dinner occasion and compensation?
I have had enough of Dollah, hopefully he disappear for good next year, and brings along his son-in-law.
*/ Sakmongkol thinks the best service they can give to society is to give all the money to charity. */
ReplyDeleteAnd Zaid Ibrahim, the most honourable and principled of them all, should do the honourable thing - Japanese style.
The other Anon....who said.
ReplyDeleteAre you related to any of the judges?
If they are so so so right, why didn't they take their case to court and get those hundreds of millions that you talk about...
i hope all of them rot in hell for taking that money. you can join them too.
Should I have to be related to the judges to post what is right and what is wrong to highlight narrow minded individuals like you and to enlighten your ignorance of the circumstances at that times?
So you mean it is a sin, in your eyes, to take compensation money for the wrongs? You in your view all those victims ,other than the judges, awarded compensations for their loss of limbs, accidents etc should also rot in hell , while you enjoy in heaven doing nothing?
Gosh you are somebody. Your opinion is really skewed.
Btw, dont be so obsessed about Charity. My suggestion, try these Charities and ask these Charities to contribute to society by help (not taking money from them) in one of your charity projects, then you see what is that Charity's reaction. Then you would know what many Charities' staff are really made of. LOL
Not all are angels.
Suing in the courts!! LOL. They the rightous ones were sacked and who were installed to judge them? Really naive statement. You think they are that naive to think it would work? You think all judges would be like RPK's courage?
Be realistic.
That is why , guys like you post without using your head.
Anon 09:08,
ReplyDeleteOnly brilliant minds like yours would use anon to air their brilliant points of view... go have teh tarik and roti canai with zaid & saleh abas le bro.(or sis in case its a sis!).
Tak habis habis nak dengki kat orang. Dah la penaya hakim hakim tu berbelas tahun kemudian banyak songel pulak bila dia dapat duit.
ReplyDeleteDrM yg awok semua dok puja tu betui sangat ker.
Kalu la dia tak campurtangan dalam judiciary tak de jadi cerita macam ni.
La ni DrM berlagak jadi MahaSuci dengan melawan apa yg dia buat dulu. Dah takder kuasa dan dah nak dibogelkan baru panik.
Poodah...kon kata renti le. pepalih meyamoah mendengo nye.
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