tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post8379707752410251097..comments2024-03-14T19:25:05.015+08:00Comments on SAKMONGKOL AK47: A tale of two subsidiesAriff Sabrihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-65991728099657000642010-06-10T12:14:37.855+08:002010-06-10T12:14:37.855+08:00Dato AK47
The subsidy issue that is being debated...Dato AK47<br /><br />The subsidy issue that is being debated is only looking at the areas of the subsidy and how to cut it out. But some ares are necessary such as education, since this is vital for HR development for economic development. all countries in the world support education and welfare. While i have criticised Jala before, hea has taken the holistic view without making a differentiationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-29904008340157566562010-06-10T08:28:14.829+08:002010-06-10T08:28:14.829+08:00Dato,
A good doctor ensures that u truly have a h...Dato,<br /><br />A good doctor ensures that u truly have a heart problem before doing a transplant.<br /><br />Its no good telling the patient that he has a heart problem and will die in 3 months but most probably can be saved if he does am appendicitis ops.<br /><br />So,please Mr MOF,Mr Koh,Mr Jala...agree on wats our problem first before giving prescription.<br /><br />After all Mr Jala didn&#kuldeephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860432336909833363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-55196814690662494802010-06-09T16:30:46.302+08:002010-06-09T16:30:46.302+08:00Sir,
Subsidized me to the tune of 2k plus? My fat...Sir,<br /><br />Subsidized me to the tune of 2k plus? My fat a**ed. I paid a lot more in taxes.<br /><br />Subsidized the UMNO goons, the MIC chiefs, the MCA Taikos, the Rambut putih Gang, so on and so forth.<br /><br />Rakyat will wake up one day. If you are a descendend of one the PEROMPAKS and you are of legal age, you will have no where to hide your shame.Suci Dalam Debuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16962071412959480814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-13467877930318408762010-06-09T13:06:17.340+08:002010-06-09T13:06:17.340+08:00Wenger J.Khairy,
I tend to share the view of Wall...Wenger J.Khairy,<br /><br />I tend to share the view of Walla.<br /><br /> The question for citizens is not whether Jala is accurate or not or whether he is "lying" as you have made a value judgment to his ulterior motive in highlighting the debt and the subsidy. These are arguments are red herrings.<br /><br />The issue is whether the debt of 74 BILLION or 18 BILLION is tenable to ourFranknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-70235164874385560922010-06-09T09:30:29.503+08:002010-06-09T09:30:29.503+08:00Habib Rak,
What Jala said about the debt picture w...Habib Rak,<br />What Jala said about the debt picture was true. He was lying about the cause - he blamed the subsidies. Dato' and other concerned citizens rightfully condemned this act.<br /><br />But Jala is "right" (but not accurate) on the eventual implosion if the debt is not reigned in. To do that, Govt has to be more efficient in controlling its costs, not the pittance that itWenger J Khairyhttp://wengeratwar.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-29170587255936961622010-06-09T09:26:50.914+08:002010-06-09T09:26:50.914+08:00Hi Dato'
Thanks for the mention. It pays to st...Hi Dato'<br />Thanks for the mention. It pays to stay informed :-)Wenger J Khairyhttp://wengeratwar.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-34342966902627275452010-06-09T09:18:25.031+08:002010-06-09T09:18:25.031+08:002/2
In this perspective, what Idris Jala had done...2/2<br /><br />In this perspective, what Idris Jala had done was not only brave but responsible, inaccuracies aside. Furthermore, he would not have made the announcement without clear sanction from the top. Therefore those at the top must also have been congruent on his findings and approach. It is a wake-up call.<br /><br />What is going to happen next? Depending on how they see the arguments bywallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580252352785040456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-36118278639585772302010-06-09T09:18:25.032+08:002010-06-09T09:18:25.032+08:00Habib and Frank are right. The total debt is too b...Habib and Frank are right. The total debt is too big and it is growing. At the same time the revenue is not growing fast enough. Meanwhile the rakyat are facing inflationary pressures while not having any options to make more.<br /><br />There is one more subsidy not in the list. It's the effective tax rate for multinationals. Someone has done a calculation that said it was only four percent wallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580252352785040456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-21827672502119885242010-06-09T08:07:54.889+08:002010-06-09T08:07:54.889+08:00Maybe he saw something first hand that we don'...Maybe he saw something first hand that we don't see i.e. figures that we pluck from the air and say that they are the actual figures,go figure jeng jeng jeng.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-77243126698469444252010-06-09T01:19:49.585+08:002010-06-09T01:19:49.585+08:00Forget about legal teminology called Bankrupt. At ...Forget about legal teminology called Bankrupt. At the end of day, when you spend a lot more than you earn, you will be in serious trouble. All of you agree to this - right? There is every reason to believe what Idris Jala had said about the Malaysian Government's total debt. The Malaysian Government is clearly on course to get into very serious money trouble. Idris Jala presented the actual Habib RAKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06918244739871101027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-58064908466137033492010-06-09T01:16:21.539+08:002010-06-09T01:16:21.539+08:00Dato Sak
Whether it is 74 billion or 18 billion. ...Dato Sak<br /><br />Whether it is 74 billion or 18 billion. It is still subsidy and that is a lot of money for a small nation of close to 28 million. A nation whose agriculture is depended on plantation sector and a fast finishing petroleum resource.<br /><br />It should be wake up call for all taxpayers by Jala. And he did the right thing of raising the subsidy issue, and it does not matter if Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-85016046950545657112010-06-09T00:52:37.801+08:002010-06-09T00:52:37.801+08:00Pak Sak, I believe in you affirming wenger's s...Pak Sak, I believe in you affirming wenger's subsidy figure of RM10 billion max, you screwed up big time....alan hileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09447362617282624932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-1747361484154626682010-06-08T23:59:09.754+08:002010-06-08T23:59:09.754+08:00Why people think Jala did a good turnaround at MAS...Why people think Jala did a good turnaround at MAS?Look at the numbers..financially he actually lost more money then anyone else.Operationally,company has shed all assets and routes.Capacity building...wow..just no wow except a lot of people happy to see him go.<br /><br />Maybe he thot that the "shock and awe" tactic can work for this subsidy thing.Well..he himself got the shocker.<br Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-51453025706876832352010-06-08T23:53:45.288+08:002010-06-08T23:53:45.288+08:00There's too much "misinformation"..l...There's too much "misinformation"..latest of all being the judi license.Hisham says its on..but PM say its not.<br /><br />Meanwhile,Bursa says its ok..BJCorp didn't give misleading info.Announcement was pretty clear about some form of judi license being awarded..<br /><br />So,the punters who chased BJCorp to RM 1.70 were not misled?<br /><br />But why Bursa so quick on its Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-9733033231454614342010-06-08T23:50:41.384+08:002010-06-08T23:50:41.384+08:00Ha,ha,ha ... Jala blundered big time in MAS BTP, ...Ha,ha,ha ... Jala blundered big time in MAS BTP, now blundered again in Govt GTP and yet being highly paid (100K pm) by the Govt.<br /><br />Not bad for someone who failed economics!<br /><br />ROTI JALAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-49526150336485567912010-06-08T23:41:39.652+08:002010-06-08T23:41:39.652+08:00Treasury kata social welfare is a subsidy.."R...Treasury kata social welfare is a subsidy.."RM7.8 billion for social welfare"..<br /><br />And fuel subsidy only 7.1 billion?>>ini sudah joking sebab Tenaga dah nak naik kan tarif by 6.4 sen,petrol sampai 2.60>>kalau kita kira2 tuh pun gomen dapat 12 billion.Mati lah kita..Subsidy 7 billion..govt nak wallop 12 billion.<br /><br />Welfare bukan subsidy..itu tanggung jawab Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-50924156038922763082010-06-08T22:25:32.460+08:002010-06-08T22:25:32.460+08:00One quick question: Where exactly is the $13.5 bil...One quick question: Where exactly is the $13.5 billion paid to IPP's?<br /><br />I suspect it's in Tenaga's accounts and so it may be that MOF does not consider that as Govt subsidy since it's all borne by Tenaga!!<br /><br />Similarly Jala's higher figure for fuel may include gas subsidies to IPP reflected in Petronas' accounts. I don't really know; I'm guessing.<Donplaypuks®https://www.blogger.com/profile/14885751307558636916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-477109982928606372010-06-08T22:18:26.130+08:002010-06-08T22:18:26.130+08:00Bro
The only conclusion we can come to is that th...Bro<br /><br />The only conclusion we can come to is that the Govt of the Rosemajibs is in complete and total disarray!!<br /><br />The left hand of Govt does not seem to know what the right hand is doing. In one day we have two boo boos from the Govt involving the Mof - the Vincent Tan betting licence issue and now this $18.6 billion subsidy vs Idris Jala's $74 billion!!<br /><br />Whatever Donplaypuks®https://www.blogger.com/profile/14885751307558636916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-77660018813959390612010-06-08T22:09:09.082+08:002010-06-08T22:09:09.082+08:00whats the fuss all about?
diversion tactics again...whats the fuss all about?<br /><br />diversion tactics again. while you argue about semantics on subsidies, another RM30b sweetheart deal for Gamuda/MMC. and who are the shareholders? beautiful man. UMNO/MCA/MIC! after the gala Fleece Trade Zone, now a more gigantic train of fleas and fleece. Darn, I should have join the gravy train of politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com