tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post3186283549849010491..comments2024-03-14T19:25:05.015+08:00Comments on SAKMONGKOL AK47: The Debate: How should UMNO treat MCA?-3Ariff Sabrihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-60236203427469993312009-12-25T13:06:43.073+08:002009-12-25T13:06:43.073+08:00To: Shamshul Anwar
Answering your debate with Sakm...To: Shamshul Anwar<br />Answering your debate with Sakmongkol.<br /><br />You may be right if your points were base on mathematical evaluation. But, politically, it does not work out this way. UMNO is not the dominant party in BN as long as it requires the support of other BN component parties. A person needs to own 60% of share by himself in order to control the company, if he own less than 50Beach manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09043061386275507268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-81084779173540820252009-12-24T14:33:46.888+08:002009-12-24T14:33:46.888+08:00Sir,
You are a gentleman for giving space to Mr S...Sir,<br /><br />You are a gentleman for giving space to Mr Syamshul though you disagree with him on a lot of issues.<br /><br />Indeed, his postings is a blessing in disguise for UMNO. If UMNO is smart, they will use Shamshul as a very valuable yardstick to win the next GE.<br /><br />Simple, just reverse whatever Shamshul says. Do the exact opposite.<br /><br />Shamshul is an excellent example Suci Dalam Debuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16962071412959480814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-56165612578775235162009-12-24T14:13:48.647+08:002009-12-24T14:13:48.647+08:00At last, we have rational comments. The crux of th...At last, we have rational comments. The crux of the matter with the NEP and all other discriminatory policies is not so much that it is to help the Malays, for the rest can agree to help being given to those in need, no matter the race. It has more to do with holding back the rest with talent because the majority are still not there yet. Does it make sense to dictate that just because the averageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-20681352143422435082009-12-24T10:51:03.008+08:002009-12-24T10:51:03.008+08:00About 100 years by other countries...
The troubl...About 100 years by other countries... <br /><br />The trouble is in Malaysia the likes of Shamshul want to do it in 2 years(pun intended) because they can just deny others by being the majority. So the other minority have to bear to burden to do it in 2 years to listen and obey the majority.<br /><br />Anyway , his replies as usual shows his arrogance. I could have been prompted to answer him Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-91591054244496806602009-12-24T09:25:07.481+08:002009-12-24T09:25:07.481+08:00I fully agree with Walla on the copying the succes...I fully agree with Walla on the copying the success of others, or standing on the shoulders of giants as Newton said, but I have to disagree with him on the hundred years it took for Japan to become industrialized/modernized.<br /><br />If we look at Japanese history in the past thousand years, then we will see their appreciation of knowledge and scholarship by their adoptions of hanzi to become msleepyheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-78587418238785019472009-12-23T23:35:49.053+08:002009-12-23T23:35:49.053+08:00The argument to insist a pro-malay fabric to this ...The argument to insist a pro-malay fabric to this country cannot hold because no one, including the malays, can say why any one race should continue to hold primacy over anything. <br /><br />In fact, it is dawning more and more on everyone that the most important thing right now is to champion high standards. The new standard-bearer for Malaysia should, well, be all about upholding higher and wallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580252352785040456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-69492862916074939252009-12-23T23:35:36.920+08:002009-12-23T23:35:36.920+08:00The old Barisan assumption was that voters would v...The old Barisan assumption was that voters would vote for their own race-based parties, even for their own faith-based movements. GE12 turned that assumption on its head. <br /><br />Malaysians voted for each other - across race and across faith - so that you get the ultimate contradiction, namely the Barisan which wanted a united Malaysia was shown to be the one which divided the people who thenwallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580252352785040456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-80509596118885537772009-12-23T23:35:16.528+08:002009-12-23T23:35:16.528+08:00I have come to similar conclusions and so would li...I have come to similar conclusions and so would like to add just a few points.<br /><br />First, the social contract has lost its currency. New Malaysians no longer relate to it. Every day it gets harder and harder to use it as the reason for everything. <br /><br />The people who cut the constitution at that time didn't see this far. They must have only been concerned with what to do with wallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580252352785040456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-15771305315572074452009-12-23T19:43:07.218+08:002009-12-23T19:43:07.218+08:00The arguments by all parties here are very interes...The arguments by all parties here are very interesting and you are all winners, but it will never end simply because each party wants a different end result. <br /><br />In pleadings, there must be an accepted fact where all parties agree to the fact and no need to argue anymore.<br /><br />Fact is UMNO (BN)is in deep shit.<br /><br />Fact is most ministers are half past six<br /><br />Fact is Are You Gonna Go My Waynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-50545323545206674632009-12-23T18:53:26.668+08:002009-12-23T18:53:26.668+08:00IMHO, there is a disconnect on who UMNO, MCA or an...IMHO, there is a disconnect on who UMNO, MCA or any political party is.<br /><br />The UMNO today is not the same UMNO who fought for Merdeka, nor is it the same on that gave birth to the NEP and certainly not the same one that carried out and implemented policies that led to failure in the magic 30% that Dato' Sak blogged previously, or the one associated with the social contract, quid pro msleepyheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-78419131581413393852009-12-23T16:04:29.399+08:002009-12-23T16:04:29.399+08:00Dear Sakmongkol,
It is beyond comprehension that ...Dear Sakmongkol,<br /><br />It is beyond comprehension that you can draw similarity with USA invasion of Iraq and UMNO trying to help MCA.<br /><br />USA justified that Saddam has WMD when te whole world think otherwise. USA refused to believe international body in charge statement that there is no WMD.<br /><br />That everyone knows including Bush himself.<br /><br />Whereas MCA is in a mess. shamshul anuarnoreply@blogger.com