tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post5882943033794409497..comments2024-03-14T19:25:05.015+08:00Comments on SAKMONGKOL AK47: 10MP: A plan of the rich, by the rich and for the rich?-1Ariff Sabrihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-43626472004674300852010-06-16T16:42:20.564+08:002010-06-16T16:42:20.564+08:00Walla
Your lengthy comments are duly noted.
Some ...Walla<br /><br />Your lengthy comments are duly noted.<br />Some I agree, some I dont.<br />But we will save the discourse for another day.<br />But given the scenario of the everyday Malays, there must still be Affirmative Action.<br />We are supportive of meritocracy if all factors are equal. Unfotunately, all conditions are never equal.<br />To pursue meritocracy while oblivious of the social Quiet Despairnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-60920869528201352112010-06-16T14:54:26.842+08:002010-06-16T14:54:26.842+08:00Walla,
Nice to observe yr empathy..and fair anlys...Walla,<br /><br />Nice to observe yr empathy..and fair anlysis. <br /><br />But it's important for the Malays to know the present state of affairs first.<br /><br />So, <br />1. the real income numbers need to be established.<br />2. the subsidies - who really gets what<br /><br />Then we will know better what to do, don't you think so?<br /><br />Anon 007Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-55517836226065605462010-06-16T14:39:05.932+08:002010-06-16T14:39:05.932+08:00There are 3.87 million Bumi households. If we use ...There are 3.87 million Bumi households. If we use the DOSM's mean monthly household income figure for the Bumis : RM 3,412 (2008) then total household income for the Bumi is RM13,195,711,628 per month - which is equivalent to RM 158,348,539,535 per year. <br /><br />Private Consumption or Expenditure in the National Accounts [which we shall be basing our calculations on, is in fact Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-6889999814068376792010-06-16T13:51:20.464+08:002010-06-16T13:51:20.464+08:00Walla,
Well said & tabik spring!
The unfortu...Walla,<br /><br />Well said & tabik spring!<br /><br />The unfortunate thing is the situation will continue going the past NEP way in the near term.<br /><br />The saddest part is 98% of the Malay M'sians - kampong/urban, lowly educated/highly educated - r too indoctrinated by the past 30+ yrs of tongkat/rhetoric to care. Most properly think only about the after-life & let current Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-67141998078731757742010-06-16T12:50:46.065+08:002010-06-16T12:50:46.065+08:002/2
What you may actually be wanting to say is if...2/2<br /><br />What you may actually be wanting to say is if not given chance, how to come up?<br /><br />But the Malays have already been given such a chance for thirty years? What is the result? <br /><br />The implementation of the DEB is being addressed. What has failed to come out earlier is the statement which only recently was reaffirmed by Najib and co. <br /><br />Namely, the DEP is wallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580252352785040456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-79856992636298765122010-06-16T12:50:46.066+08:002010-06-16T12:50:46.066+08:00'You want to cut our scholarship quota, throw ...'You want to cut our scholarship quota, throw our DEB tongkat, stop subsidy and the list goes on.' (Quiet Despair 11.51).<br /><br />I don't think that's a fair statement:<br /><br />- cut scholarship quota<br /><br />The issue is not about giving less to needy Malays; it is about giving more to qualified non-Malays.<br /><br />The problem before us is when more is given to needy wallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580252352785040456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-9960910014731502122010-06-16T12:28:17.116+08:002010-06-16T12:28:17.116+08:00Dato'
It's sad but true.
On paper, the ...Dato'<br /><br />It's sad but true. <br /><br />On paper, the 10MP appears to benefit the majority of the poor 'rakyat', regardless of race.<br /><br />In practice, even before implementation, the rich have already divided the prime cut of the meat.<br /><br />During implementation, the lean meat was not spared either.<br /><br />After implementation, the 'rakyat' were Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-63494147360581895992010-06-16T11:51:40.780+08:002010-06-16T11:51:40.780+08:00I shed tears when I read that my race is in the lo...I shed tears when I read that my race is in the lowest rung of the income ladder.<br />Even the Indians' earning power are nearly three times above us.<br />Dear non-Malay pals, why then so much angst against Affirmative Action.<br />You guys are having it all.<br />You want to cut our scholarship quota, throw our DEB tongkat, stop subsidy and the list goes on.<br />This is not Tanah Melayu, Quiet Despairnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-14177149801733490032010-06-16T11:20:15.666+08:002010-06-16T11:20:15.666+08:00In a data-set not normally distributed like salari...In a data-set not normally distributed like salaries or welath distribution....it would be statistically better to use Median rather than Average. Sort the data-set from lowest to highest and Median would take the 50-percentile data point to represent the population. Therefore should the data skewed more to the lower side, the value of Median income will be lower or should the data skewed more toAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-55246310902252154052010-06-16T11:03:47.943+08:002010-06-16T11:03:47.943+08:00Dato',
Can you help to convince ASNB/Govt to ...Dato',<br /><br />Can you help to convince ASNB/Govt to increase the maximum amount that can be invested in ASB from RM200k to RM500k? That would a lot especially for Malays retirees to face inflation-laden years ahead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-63245376304509456892010-06-16T10:46:56.484+08:002010-06-16T10:46:56.484+08:002/2
6. i sense (with my heart) a lot of people ar...2/2<br /><br />6. i sense (with my heart) a lot of people are unhappy these past few days.<br /><br />Because they are seeing for themselves how the Umno-led government has come undone in everything.<br /><br />They have also felt cheated all these years. They know the government knows, yet they see Umno not responding by changing. In fact, it has gotten worse.<br /><br />You know what i am wallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580252352785040456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-69539415206979681582010-06-16T10:46:56.485+08:002010-06-16T10:46:56.485+08:00anon 02.348,
1. the differences in values between...anon 02.348,<br /><br />1. the differences in values between the RM data provided by (anon 2.08, EPU) are:<br /><br />malays 3,400, 3,156<br />chinese 11,000, 4,853<br />indians 9,000, 3,799<br /><br />From this, we see the big gaps in value for the chinese and indian groups.<br /><br />I was looking for data which could reaffirm anon 2.08's numbers - but have not succeeded; perhaps you can wallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580252352785040456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-28987164599367676602010-06-16T02:52:00.214+08:002010-06-16T02:52:00.214+08:00wow dato'...this particular chinaman would lov...wow dato'...this particular chinaman would love to be in the RM11K monthly income bracket, as would most of my friends I believe!!Eyes Wide Openhttp://notsleepinganymore.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-13900792396469764742010-06-16T02:48:01.131+08:002010-06-16T02:48:01.131+08:00Walla, I know you're quoting those incomes num...Walla, I know you're quoting those incomes numbers from some UMNO-government data source.<br /><br />You've always sounded like an objective and sensible person judging by most of yr views here.<br /><br />Do you really.. really believe those numbers?<br /><br />Tell me..wished i could look you in the eye and hear yr answer. <br /><br />Do you honestly, "cross yr heart and hope to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-53074863473949995182010-06-16T02:08:27.550+08:002010-06-16T02:08:27.550+08:00Average monthly income
M: RM 3,400.
C: RM 11,000.
...Average monthly income<br />M: RM 3,400.<br />C: RM 11,000.<br />I: RM 9,000<br /><br />I am the Anon who posted those figures, Dato. <br /><br />Where the hell did i get the figures, Anon of 15 June 2010 18:58 asked?<br /><br />Well firstly, unlike most, I dont subscribe to the low culture of the serfs who have to accept whatever the bastard earls say, as gospel truths. <br /><br />So when JalaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-89645936350364546702010-06-16T01:25:28.998+08:002010-06-16T01:25:28.998+08:00Dato',
I wish to requote you, "statistic...Dato',<br /><br />I wish to requote you, "statistics is like a bikini".<br /><br />The average income which is published , is "like a bikini".<br /><br />Why ? Because there are 10.5m workers and only 1.5m pay income tax ie those earning at least RM3,000.<br /><br />You can't use the imported butter eaten by the rich to apply on the lower income bread, can you ?<br /><dua sennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-1995520546661384982010-06-16T01:25:28.999+08:002010-06-16T01:25:28.999+08:00Hahaha.
Dato, thats sure a lot of zero's
I w...Hahaha.<br /><br />Dato, thats sure a lot of zero's<br /><br />I wonder those people get the meaning of your article<br /><br />Entah la Dato .. Jibby lately pon flip flop lebey kurang paklah.<br /><br />Muka pon dah start cuak asyik kena tekan sama berahi ali.<br /><br />Mana tak indebt sama itu vincent - sapa suruh entice banyak wang sama itu perak-de-coup. tadak balaja itu matematik kah<brAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-8019007934732076032010-06-15T23:50:40.644+08:002010-06-15T23:50:40.644+08:00their postulate are:- it creates jobs, it stimulat...their postulate are:- it creates jobs, it stimulate the industry and market, it upgrades our lifestyles, it spurs our economy, it generate incomes and education opportunities, etc etc, blah blah blah.<br /><br />but does nothing for the average and below average people including businesses and one have to be declared eligible first and really beg for the allocations. so the people are literally Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-54477264395535783302010-06-15T23:50:40.645+08:002010-06-15T23:50:40.645+08:00Middle Class Malays has increased significantly an...Middle Class Malays has increased significantly and these can be seen in the cars they own. My neighbor who lives in a double storey terrace house has 1 Land Rover TDI, 1 BMW Z5 and 1 Jag ! And if you have been observant you will notice this class of Malays shun buying 'national cars' and prefer continental brands. BTW I stay in Shah Alam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-36927178523678779962010-06-15T23:03:04.851+08:002010-06-15T23:03:04.851+08:0015 June 2010 21:27
Don't try to be smart plea...15 June 2010 21:27<br /><br />Don't try to be smart please.You are very stupid indeed and nobody is laughing.<br /><br />Dato is trying to get across a very crucial point about the rich robbing the poor.Its not a laughing matter unless you want your grand daughter to be a maid in Jakarta.<br /><br />We have to mobilise our collective forces to fight the great injustice and bad intents of thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-83583646055795289412010-06-15T22:59:10.909+08:002010-06-15T22:59:10.909+08:00Salam Dato',
The following figures from EPU (9...Salam Dato',<br />The following figures from EPU (9MP, 2005) are still hauntingly uncomfortable:<br />Employment by ethnic group (Table 16.4, pg. 334). <br />Senior Officials & Mgrs in Private Sector:<br />Bumi = 38%<br />Chinese = 55%<br />Indians = 7%<br /><br />% of CEO's in Private Sector:<br />Bumi = 20%<br />Chinese = 70.4%<br /><br />I wonder how these figures will look like Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12553529525999546466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-55783377109086730582010-06-15T21:27:25.249+08:002010-06-15T21:27:25.249+08:00Can you believe any data provided by the govt?Even...Can you believe any data provided by the govt?Even on subsidies MOF & Mr Jala got grossly divergent numbers..and in true BN spirit Prof Koh says both are right.<br /><br />So,lets just surmise ur anon and Mr Walla's numbers are both correct BUT lets accept the higher one i.e by anon (i.e, in the spirit of Mr Jala)..and work from that base to do aome social (subsidy) reengineering.<br /><Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-8507539166286711372010-06-15T20:40:17.173+08:002010-06-15T20:40:17.173+08:00Pada tahun 2007, pendapatan isi rumah purata kaum ...Pada tahun 2007, pendapatan isi rumah purata kaum Bumiputera meningkat sebanyak 5.2 peratus setahun kepada RM3,156 sebulan, manakala isi rumah kaum Cina meningkat pada kadar 3.0 peratus setahun kepada RM4,853 dan isi rumah<br />India pada kadar 3.2 peratus kepada RM3,799.<br /><br />(page 19: http://is.gd/cQ7OS )<br /><br />bersama:<br />http://is.gd/cQ80V<br />http://is.gd/cQ893wallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580252352785040456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-35219859248946417122010-06-15T19:07:37.770+08:002010-06-15T19:07:37.770+08:00if only it is true,
one of you anons wrote in. yo...if only it is true,<br /><br />one of you anons wrote in. you have better figures or worse?Ariff Sabrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-44057407747877906862010-06-15T18:58:53.648+08:002010-06-15T18:58:53.648+08:00Average monthly income?
M: RM 3,400.
C: RM 11,000....Average monthly income?<br />M: RM 3,400.<br />C: RM 11,000.<br />I: RM 9,000,<br /><br />Where on earth you got your figure?If only it is truenoreply@blogger.com