tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post5804256523497880805..comments2024-03-14T19:25:05.015+08:00Comments on SAKMONGKOL AK47: Race Politics and Custodial DeathsAriff Sabrihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-86795807001393020062009-01-27T19:19:00.000+08:002009-01-27T19:19:00.000+08:00Hmmm....interestingI wonder if people see the Pale...Hmmm....interesting<BR/><BR/>I wonder if people see the Palestine/Israel conflict through racial lenses too.<BR/><BR/>So for some, Kugan is a suspect and what happened is somewhat justifiable, understandable or give the police the benefit of the doubt.<BR/><BR/>So in the same vein, if Israeli doestargeted assassination, arrest, interrogation of suspected Hamsa militants ok? Since after all they Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-28991124570710669942009-01-26T15:50:00.000+08:002009-01-26T15:50:00.000+08:00Ah..anon, finally the truth dawns. "kami bertugas ...Ah..anon, finally the truth dawns. <BR/><BR/>"kami bertugas hari2 siang dan malam, kamu tidor lena sahaja. apabila kami tidak dapat selesaikan perkara yang di lapur, kami kena marah."<BR/><BR/>You are a cop!<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you know what's happening in the Kugan case. Perhaps you have evidence that Kugan is guilty. Perhaps you caught him in the act of raping the person he stole the car from. <BREyes Wide Openhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05367590620303779137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-62027719986914695672009-01-26T15:08:00.000+08:002009-01-26T15:08:00.000+08:00Dato',I wonder how much goodwill and sympathy they...Dato',<BR/>I wonder how much goodwill and sympathy they must have lost through that repugnant banner?<BR/>It did that for me.zookyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06281204896625523757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-33053901546948130622009-01-26T15:02:00.000+08:002009-01-26T15:02:00.000+08:00DCP Mohammad Sabtu added that eight of the victims...DCP Mohammad Sabtu added that eight of the victims were also raped. “However, no casualties were reported in all the incidents,” he said.<BR/><BR/>eyes wide open- kalau u kena ini macam, apa macam? you still regard the assailant/thief/rapist still a hero? because he has not been proven a thief/rapist and assailant? <BR/>siapa pun tak tahu apa berlaku dalam bilik interogation. dont live in your Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-70557241596898335172009-01-26T14:52:00.000+08:002009-01-26T14:52:00.000+08:00grand marquis,betul you cakap. this kugan must hav...grand marquis,<BR/><BR/>betul you cakap. this kugan must have a track record and so qualifies to be a prominent indian like itu miss or mrs yoong cakap. kugan bukan guest di hotel hilton.<BR/>yes, imagine kalau daughter atau wife kita kena macam itu. stopped and threaten by parang and maybe sexually abused. tapi kugan sebab dia mati mahu di jadikan hero.<BR/><BR/>kaum india memang mahu jadikan Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-72302541195644904392009-01-26T14:12:00.000+08:002009-01-26T14:12:00.000+08:00All right, before we go any further, lets check th...All right, before we go any further, lets check this news.<BR/><BR/>Luxury car theft syndicate busted<BR/>http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/1/6/nation/2947609&sec=nation<BR/><BR/>Car theft syndicate crippled, 15 cars recovered<BR/>http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/16476-car-theft-syndicate-crippled-15-cars-recovered<BR/><BR/>I believe the two news refered to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-33040492154571364372009-01-26T13:18:00.000+08:002009-01-26T13:18:00.000+08:00Police brutality should never be condoned. It is a...Police brutality should never be condoned. It is an injustice and the Police Force should be held accountable as it is a crime. Yet, to politicise a death in police custody as merely racism (against Indians, in this case) is to trivialise police brutality. <BR/><BR/>Indeed, all Malaysians should symphatise with family and friends of the deceased but to blame insitutional racism will not unite Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-62002900962071651342009-01-26T13:16:00.000+08:002009-01-26T13:16:00.000+08:00Dato,As this country has been run by a Malay led g...Dato,<BR/><BR/>As this country has been run by a Malay led government for the past 51 years, with Islamic and Malay values, and UMNO constantly reminding everyone of it, it is only right to associate this with race, given that this country is operated on that basis, from birth certificates to death certificates, and everything in between.<BR/><BR/>BN is a coalition of race-based parties, and the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-42033612657309954862009-01-26T11:15:00.000+08:002009-01-26T11:15:00.000+08:00Eyes Wide Open!Thank you for your preaching!!I hop...Eyes Wide Open!<BR/>Thank you for your preaching!!<BR/>I hope your car and your wife's car and your children's car get stolen.The car thieves are so lucky.You are so forgiving and kind.<BR/>You don't have any stress or pain should your car get stolen right?<BR/>So don't bother to lock your car!<BR/><BR/>Yes the police surely have their findings which they cannot blab around.Maybe they were tryingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-90270326843417778672009-01-26T11:13:00.000+08:002009-01-26T11:13:00.000+08:00eyes wide open.you must be living in an idealized ...eyes wide open.<BR/>you must be living in an idealized world. what you have expounded are ideas normally associated with those peace marchers who have not reached puberty.<BR/>as one commentator says, this kugan wasn't there as a guest at the Hilton. you are assuming that the police re evil and intentionally seek out to kill this kugan- by the way, are you suffering the Stockholm syndrome, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-58952993115254858802009-01-26T09:26:00.000+08:002009-01-26T09:26:00.000+08:00It is yet another sad story of someone dying of br...It is yet another sad story of someone dying of brutality in police custody. <BR/><BR/>I do agree with the author that race aside, the crux of the matter is that someone died while in police custody.<BR/><BR/>More disturbing is the manner in which the person died. Restrained. Beaten. Tortured. Crying out in pain. The he would have had to endure the pain while his body slowly bled internally, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-21064565388539594122009-01-26T09:23:00.000+08:002009-01-26T09:23:00.000+08:00There is no mistaking THIS PICTURE! [CLICK] It's I...There is no mistaking <A HREF="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Bqoblu5jIp0/SXnWw252xeI/AAAAAAAAAb8/NVhd0XZOUUE/S240/SAK01.JPG" REL="nofollow"><B><I>THIS PICTURE! [CLICK]</I></B></A> It's Indian alright!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-21275922664688704962009-01-26T06:44:00.000+08:002009-01-26T06:44:00.000+08:00i have been reading the articles by this dato and ...i have been reading the articles by this dato and also the comments.<BR/>this is the classic case of the cattle thief who was caught. yet when people call him just that, a cattle thief dia marah2 and start quarreling with the people calling him a thief.<BR/>serupa juga dengan most of the commentators. they want to accuse the UMNO/BN as racist and the police are kuda tunggangan UMNO. yet, when Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-73941078708995999742009-01-26T00:23:00.000+08:002009-01-26T00:23:00.000+08:00It really comes down to how you want to interpret ...It really comes down to how you want to interpret this whole affair. One can interpret it as:<BR/><BR/>1) Yet another case of Indians dying under systematic Malay persecution, or<BR/><BR/>2) Another Indian died under the hands of the Malays, because the Malays as a whole have less regard for the Indian race's lives, or<BR/><BR/>3) An Indian died under the hands of certain Malay person/s, or<BREyes Wide Openhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05367590620303779137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-3521926518982401102009-01-25T21:55:00.000+08:002009-01-25T21:55:00.000+08:00I agree with you. But the problem is that credibil...I agree with you. But the problem is that credibility of the govt is so low, that no one will believe whatever statement is made by any official.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, The Home Minister is making threatening noise an this is escalating the tension.<BR/><BR/>There is a complete breakdown of trust between the govt and the people. And this is made worse by complete lack of leadership in the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-75837436360231190992009-01-25T20:25:00.000+08:002009-01-25T20:25:00.000+08:00I wonder who voted for Malaysia's first Idol, Jack...I wonder who voted for Malaysia's first Idol, Jacklyn Victor?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10058653104014681765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-90129945915597026392009-01-25T20:13:00.000+08:002009-01-25T20:13:00.000+08:00Hi Sak,as we agree to disagree, i would like to ex...Hi Sak,<BR/>as we agree to disagree, i would like to express my disappointment on your write up.<BR/><BR/>Statistics show Indians to represent the largest portion of the community involved in criminal activities. Thus, they, by race, represent the largest portion of the community occupying the cells in police stations around Malaysia. Being the largest group of people occupying the lock-ups, Dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17057506945340513686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-35929818306543649012009-01-25T19:26:00.000+08:002009-01-25T19:26:00.000+08:00eyes wide open.ewo has summed up my position aptly...eyes wide open.<BR/>ewo has summed up my position aptly:-<BR/>he said;<BR/>But I would interpret it as your attempt to highlight the real issues involved, but approaching it from the viewpoint of someone whose overwhelming passion is to protect his race against slanderous accusations and belief that UMNO best represents his cause.<BR/>we dont wait for accusations, then only we want to defend. theAriff Sabrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-1041748414001012542009-01-25T19:07:00.000+08:002009-01-25T19:07:00.000+08:00Stop all this shitting please!!!O now its Mr Kugan...Stop all this shitting please!!!<BR/>O now its Mr Kugan?? If there was police brutality inflicted on him, hes now made to look like a hero??<BR/>Did the late Kugan and his criminal buddies ever thought og the financial brutality he inflicted to others when he stole their cars?? You think insurance can cover everything??<BR/>Sudah mati baru you can see Kugan's family and relatives and friends Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-8952375206684154062009-01-25T16:59:00.000+08:002009-01-25T16:59:00.000+08:00The issue in the Kugan case is very simply - a per...The issue in the Kugan case is very simply - a person died suspiciously while in police custody, the circumstances of which the police ostensibly tried to cover up.<BR/><BR/>The issue that needs to be resolved is - what really happened, and what needs to be seriously done about the integrity and professionalism of the police force.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, the late Mr Kugan's death has been used Eyes Wide Openhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05367590620303779137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-46133946496858645052009-01-25T13:46:00.000+08:002009-01-25T13:46:00.000+08:00Dear Dato' SakMongkol,Let me start by calling a sp...Dear Dato' SakMongkol,<BR/><BR/>Let me start by calling a spade a spade. It is black but it is the freaking truth.<BR/>Police killed that defenseless guy in their custody no matter what excuse or spin coming out of the police station.<BR/>No insinuation of Malay killing Indian or whatever racial motivation to that tune. Intentionally or otherwise the fact remains that POLICE KILLED KUGAN IN Nasirudin Anjudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13611395357052513394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-71311564009231655642009-01-25T13:23:00.000+08:002009-01-25T13:23:00.000+08:00why the malay didnt complaint when their son died ...why the malay didnt complaint when their son died in prison?<BR/><BR/>because the malays are stupid, they think when they oppose the police /gov = oppose UMNO....they think umno adalah penyelamat ketuanan melayu.....so cannot lawan gov.....<BR/><BR/>ada ramai orang melayu yang tak suka polis dikudakan oleh UMNO....terutama ketika pilihanraya / aktiviti yang dilakukan oleh PR..... kalau polis ajiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06677217740503498311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-6698810043738397582009-01-25T12:57:00.000+08:002009-01-25T12:57:00.000+08:00"why are Malays dropping dead left and right?"i as..."why are Malays dropping dead left and right?"<BR/><BR/>i asked the same but of indians.<BR/>i am surprised you interpreted it that way.<BR/>it's a fact that lots of prominent indians are dropping dead, and that was the intention of my question on my post, that is are these indian deaths connected to political upheavals within the community....<BR/>i do think we need cooler heads and sharper Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-87669010514496611542009-01-25T12:52:00.000+08:002009-01-25T12:52:00.000+08:00I was just going with your speculation. It wasn't ...I was just going with your speculation. It wasn't just about the crime-poverty connection either. I'm personally against racial profiling by the police, if there is such practice. My point was that I don't agree with u on prematurely ruling out racism in part of the police, as the police haven't disclosed any data on custodial deaths yet, which is why also I said the banner thing was wrong. It Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-74641397114736469012009-01-25T12:04:00.000+08:002009-01-25T12:04:00.000+08:00anon an 11:34sorry, you have not understood this a...anon an 11:34<BR/>sorry, you have not understood this article. <BR/>inanam,<BR/>i knew that would be coming...why Indians resort to crime- poverty etc. that is not the subject of this article. <BR/>pak zawi,<BR/>unlike the anon @11:34, you understood what i meant. i thought this article was written in as clear prose as possible.Ariff Sabrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.com