tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post3869967983176646629..comments2024-03-14T19:25:05.015+08:00Comments on SAKMONGKOL AK47: Fiddling while the Economy BurnsAriff Sabrihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-88213596274302621562009-02-11T13:00:00.000+08:002009-02-11T13:00:00.000+08:00excuse me,when i say i was with the govt, i didnt ...excuse me,<BR/>when i say i was with the govt, i didnt say i worked with a govt. i served as adun and got to know the workings and work ethics of govt depts. <BR/><BR/>as for the men and women who are much sought after, had they worked for the gvt, how do you think will they performed? <BR/>you want to argue abt gvt work ethics, anytime anywhere.Ariff Sabrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-45074655408431624902009-02-11T06:00:00.000+08:002009-02-11T06:00:00.000+08:00Dear Dato,So you were with the government before? ...Dear Dato,<BR/><BR/>So you were with the government before? Then you were one of the 'trees' which bear the 'lemons' in the civil service we have today.<BR/><BR/>You are a failure even at the Jabatan Kerajaan level.<BR/><BR/>Please dont point fingers, Dato. Be honest to yourself. You will find that the more you point fingers at others the more you will get humbled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-45646519880601450602009-02-11T05:40:00.000+08:002009-02-11T05:40:00.000+08:00Dato,Maybe you are pleasing yourself too much here...Dato,<BR/><BR/>Maybe you are pleasing yourself too much here.<BR/><BR/>You forget to observe your good friend who opted to work for Mercedez after what Malaysia had done for him.<BR/><BR/>Malaysia has given them the oppurtunities. Malaysia has trained them well. Taken them out of poverty and taken them out of farms and old huts. Just like what Malaysia has given you. But most the Malays forgets. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-83566639280257385412009-02-10T08:08:00.000+08:002009-02-10T08:08:00.000+08:00There is no bad soldiers only bad officers !. this...There is no bad soldiers only bad officers !. this is my/our principle when i was in the Armed Forces then. And for bloody 10 years of my/our service life, we served for king n country day n night, blood sweat n tears !!!. In fact, many of us paid very dearly with their life.<BR/>Similarly, its expected with the civil services, indeed as you eventually/rightfully identified 'leadership' as the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-56838297368160098352009-02-09T23:34:00.000+08:002009-02-09T23:34:00.000+08:00ok, let some good sense prevail. i havent said the...ok, let some good sense prevail. i havent said the second part yet. <BR/>the answer i gave to navaratnam was meant to challenge the mindset of many dept heads. <BR/>the answer it seems to me, is we must have leadership at at levels and the leader demands from his fellow workers the highest of standards, diligence and dedication.<BR/>there must be a culture of competitiveness among civil servants.Ariff Sabrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-62541597343745817472009-02-09T23:11:00.000+08:002009-02-09T23:11:00.000+08:00"The main grouse of most in govt service is basica..."The main grouse of most in govt service is basically there's too much politicking ,the leadership of Arts graduates KSUs who spend much more time following Ministers on their turun padang trips then to manage and the culture of mediocrity developed through the years because everyone prefers not to take risks."<BR/><BR/>Bulls eye, Kuldeep !!<BR/><BR/>These kaki bodek and tidak apa syndrome will Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-69344350592490028002009-02-09T23:00:00.000+08:002009-02-09T23:00:00.000+08:00Once again, very nice, sir.Actually the rot starte...Once again, very nice, sir.<BR/>Actually the rot started with TDM.<BR/><BR/>The nation has lost more than RM 330 billions due to leakages that TDM initiated and now he is suffering in silence.<BR/><BR/>I do not think it is something to do with race. <BR/>In my former company, a GLC, it very hard for anybody to go against the system because of the crony or clan culture. <BR/>Regardless of race, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-91963073293146463242009-02-09T22:34:00.000+08:002009-02-09T22:34:00.000+08:00Our SIRIM is by far more competent technically ,ef...Our SIRIM is by far more competent technically ,efficient and respected than SISIR cos Tan Sri Tajuddin brought them notches ahead with his enlightened and committed leadership.He was working his magic in Tenaga before politics swept in and flushed him into early retirement.<BR/><BR/>Nobody in SIRIM or Tenaga was getting huge pay packets or KPI fueled bonuses back then.And TS was not recruiting kuldeephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860432336909833363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-22305152389661224622009-02-09T21:43:00.000+08:002009-02-09T21:43:00.000+08:00islandman,if u think this is a waste of time, cant...islandman,<BR/>if u think this is a waste of time, cant help you there. dont pull ranks here. i have worked with Shell Malaysia for over a decade. and worked with govt for years/every year looking at how they manage their affairs. so like you, i too know what i am talking about.<BR/>why should you get paid higher starting salaries when the entry level qualifications are nothing to shout about? inAriff Sabrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-83771298963393660782009-02-09T21:02:00.000+08:002009-02-09T21:02:00.000+08:00if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys to work for yo...if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys to work for you-lah.<BR/>am not in full support to Singapore, but there they get the best in the civil service cas. they get paid pretty well, if not over paid if I must comment.<BR/>Well, I have had 10 yrs experience working with the govt. agency and later left to join the private sector.<BR/>Indeed, I had gained valueble exposure plus proper admin. protocols Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-50507936422162263762009-02-09T20:36:00.000+08:002009-02-09T20:36:00.000+08:00Salam Tok Sak,Right on!! Bitter BUT true!! Q is, w...Salam Tok Sak,<BR/>Right on!! Bitter BUT true!! Q is, what do we do about it? How to break this viscious cycle? Definitely NOT by more politicking by the Malays?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-23845066797861061302009-02-09T16:38:00.000+08:002009-02-09T16:38:00.000+08:00To Bangau -Sorry to voice this, people:Friend,I do...To Bangau -<BR/>Sorry to voice this, people:<BR/>Friend,I don't know where the relevance of this pantun, or whatever it's called to this post. As far as I understand this post, it concerns the economy, mainly. The previous post IS about Anwar. Why not send there?<BR/><BR/>Yes, I understand Malay very well - Despite the "fiddle" at the beginning, it's just to "ambil syarat". So what's my problem? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-64083251465646488292009-02-09T16:04:00.000+08:002009-02-09T16:04:00.000+08:00Mengapa bimbang? Ekonomi okay lah.Don't underestim...Mengapa bimbang? Ekonomi okay lah.<BR/><BR/>Don't underestimate our Finance Minister. He has hidden card up his sleeve and will reveal his plan on saving the country's economy once he becomes PM. He has thought out a new product to export.<BR/><BR/>Ok, ok, I shall let you into the secret.<BR/><BR/>You've heard of Filipino maids? Indonesian maids? Well, sekarang kami akan expot Malaysia maids. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-31593376492285244082009-02-09T15:47:00.000+08:002009-02-09T15:47:00.000+08:00A song to fiddle to:Lompat Sikatak Lompat,Lompat l...A song to fiddle to:<BR/><BR/>Lompat Sikatak Lompat,<BR/>Lompat lah tinggi tinggi,<BR/>Kenapa Nuar lompat lambat,<BR/>Senjata dah makan diri<BR/><BR/>Lompat Sikatak Lompat,<BR/>Lompat lah tinggi tinggi,<BR/>Bila tewas bisng kiamat<BR/>Lupa dia yang memulai <BR/><BR/>Lompat Sikatak Lompat,<BR/>Lompat lah tinggi tinggi,<BR/>Nak jadi parti dihormat,<BR/>Tadbir tiada otak, tembak kaki<BR/><BR/>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-84943046435105982822009-02-09T15:35:00.000+08:002009-02-09T15:35:00.000+08:00Economy burns... Good if we have an economy.Our ec...Economy burns... <BR/><BR/>Good if we have an economy.<BR/><BR/>Our economy is to take the money available anytime anywere and just give it out like Santa Claus.<BR/><BR/>Just look how the new "MB" of Perak gave out money to musical bands and others hardly a few days of being appointed. <BR/><BR/>Ya, how did he know how much money the state has or from where this "free" money comes from?<BR/>It Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-5909723283114403332009-02-09T15:34:00.000+08:002009-02-09T15:34:00.000+08:00Dear Dato',I'm impressed by your frankness and cou...Dear Dato',<BR/><BR/>I'm impressed by your frankness and courage in speaking out on this touch subject.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, many other Malays (especially those in the ruling regime) have taken on the "Emperor's New Clothes" syndrome. And they are the ones who couldn't even write a decent sentence in English, unlike you (of the old school), because they still harp on BM on grounds of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-1731816835525665582009-02-09T15:00:00.000+08:002009-02-09T15:00:00.000+08:00I have never been in civil service..but in my long...I have never been in civil service..but in my long career I have dealt with as many competent ,hardworking and principled civil servants as I have the misfortune of dealing with snobbish malcontents in private companies and MNCs;be it Malays,Chinese,Indians,Mat Sallehs...Lets not simplify it as a deficiency in the Malay psyche or education. <BR/><BR/>The marked difference is that MNCs have betterkuldeephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860432336909833363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-22534801916632082132009-02-09T14:24:00.000+08:002009-02-09T14:24:00.000+08:00erm...I'm not sure about your statement that "Our ...erm...I'm not sure about your statement that "Our civil service started to decline when the civil service becomes dominated by Malays."<BR/><BR/>Mediocrity knows no ethnicity. There are plenty of mediocre Chinese, Indian dan lain-lain out there. But I presume we don't see them in civil service as most of them join the private sector and stay at low level jobs.<BR/><BR/>The solution would be to Eyes Wide Openhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05367590620303779137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-15481043740061434082009-02-09T13:33:00.000+08:002009-02-09T13:33:00.000+08:00hi tok sak,i really like your "institutionalising ...hi tok sak,<BR/><BR/>i really like your <B>"institutionalising mediocrity"</B>. :D <BR/><BR/>however, i wonder if it was totally a deliberate policy of the government. perhaps the gradual recruiting of only malays was. but on the whole, i think the situation is (or was) probably more of an opportunity cost due to a lack of foresight. <BR/><BR/>from what little reading i did about our country, my mekyamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12821403905513232293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-75196794058509580022009-02-09T12:14:00.000+08:002009-02-09T12:14:00.000+08:00dato,you hit the nail but it is politically not co...dato,<BR/><BR/>you hit the nail but it is politically not correct to even think about it.<BR/>a real disservice to the majority Malays. Wonder why the MEAN salary is below RM2,000 per month?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-8360086914872269632009-02-09T12:04:00.000+08:002009-02-09T12:04:00.000+08:00Some of the best middle managers in the corporate ...Some of the best middle managers in the corporate sector now ,started their careers in JKR,TNB,Telekom,JPJ..great institutions with good set of systems and providing very good hands on training.Many privatised entities are run by the same "pre-privatisation" government servants.<BR/><BR/>The main grouse of most in govt service is basically there's too much politicking ,the leadership of Arts kuldeephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860432336909833363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-48321074365952302252009-02-09T11:30:00.000+08:002009-02-09T11:30:00.000+08:00Bro SakI agree that the civil service is such a cr...Bro Sak<BR/><BR/>I agree that the civil service is such a critical factor in the economic and general governance of Malaysia. The civil service is the delivery system for policies created by the political masters. Without the civil service no policies can be carried out. The delivery system needs to be constantly reviewed for effciency. Promudah is a dud so far.de minimishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06478671079348612565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-89778038075448328162009-02-09T09:53:00.000+08:002009-02-09T09:53:00.000+08:00Another word for "chosen capitalists" is cronyism....Another word for "chosen capitalists" is cronyism. It was<BR/>started over 20 years ago. Books have been written about it.<BR/><BR/>I think it led to money politics. The creation of an elite Malay business class ran parallel with, if not was motivated by, the idea of having proxies and nominees who would arrange the funds for getting political support. As I see it, it was a means to the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-67993924747432114892009-02-09T09:47:00.000+08:002009-02-09T09:47:00.000+08:00yeah, dato...the dick measuring goes on and on...m...yeah, dato...the dick measuring goes on and on...many dicks to measure...their shower-room antics haven't left them even though dah satu kaki nak masuk kubur, nak menjawab esok how they loot, cheat and failed to carry out their amanah to the people...esp the vulnerable in the current state of the economy.<BR/><BR/>What is it with Malay men, eh?Saya...https://www.blogger.com/profile/04959724134477425739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-15682673053874803322009-02-09T09:32:00.000+08:002009-02-09T09:32:00.000+08:00it all boils down to proper up bringing and attitu...it all boils down to proper up bringing and attitude. <BR/>individual capability, strength and weakness also would play a part but just to catergorise all Malays, is not proper.<BR/>in fact, most Malays make good administrator according to the British cas. of their gentlemaness and fairness behaviour.<BR/>don't blame the Malays, blame oneself rather !<BR/>I have many Malay friends and associates,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com