tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post2116592136413694754..comments2024-03-14T19:25:05.015+08:00Comments on SAKMONGKOL AK47: When Soldiers voteAriff Sabrihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-34964455378757226762009-09-28T23:28:11.101+08:002009-09-28T23:28:11.101+08:00The statement by Anon 13:39:
"I think Dr Raf...The statement by Anon 13:39:<br /><br />"I think Dr Raffick's account as an ex Army personnel will be a good read in how uniformed votes can be manipulated."<br /><br />http://rights2write.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/malaysian-election-and-army-votes-ii/<br /><br />23 September 2009 13:39<br /><br />I can say that Dr Raffick is a fake. He is an opportunist. During his RMAF days, he wasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-54953134361829440912009-09-27T11:51:42.020+08:002009-09-27T11:51:42.020+08:00Anonymous, 23 September 2009 23:58
I'm...Anonymous, 23 September 2009 23:58 <br /><br /> I'm an army officer and i will be voting in Bagan Pinang. My vote will definitely go to BN not because a camp commandant or a General is 'forcing' me but because i think PR is full of sh*t!!!<br /><br /> Major A.<br />I am from Sarawak reading the comments and from the blogs.From my own perspective, if PR is such, what makes BN? Hari Harihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916224598016869571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-76430874235945487752009-09-24T20:09:31.282+08:002009-09-24T20:09:31.282+08:00Sak,
Why not advocate Singapore's style of ...Sak,<br /> Why not advocate Singapore's style of conducting GE? Compulsory voting. No postal votes for armed forces except for those on duty during the election.<br /> Lets see if the results would be the same. GE in Singapore is one of the cleanest in the world. The ruling party there always use 60% popular votes as a yardstick if the party is generally acceptable by the people. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-64628532031826033582009-09-24T17:31:24.599+08:002009-09-24T17:31:24.599+08:00Dato...
Pls have a look at the Malaysia Insider r...Dato...<br /><br />Pls have a look at the Malaysia Insider report on TDM's visit to NGV Tech.<br /><br />It takes TDM to recognise a true businessman in a difficult and challenging arena..who have succeeded by knowledge,hard work and a passion for the biz.<br /><br />And it just prove that Khazanah is a flawed concept.<br /><br />They did not create anything for last 8 years..only PR bullshitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-28452285550373581512009-09-24T13:46:40.038+08:002009-09-24T13:46:40.038+08:00Sir,
On paper, everything is good. Sure, the sold...Sir,<br /><br />On paper, everything is good. Sure, the soldiers can vote for anybody on their own free will. <br /><br />Only in practice the deviations from the ideal happens. The degree of deviation is often in the BN's favor. I think this is what most readers are trying to say.<br /><br />As I mentioned somewhere before, a navy man of mine told me that he saw the allot boxes came and thenSuci Dalam Debuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16962071412959480814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-48524456973279521052009-09-24T12:18:52.636+08:002009-09-24T12:18:52.636+08:00Cannot vouch the truthfulness of all being said bu...Cannot vouch the truthfulness of all being said but i wonder why a coincidence that most of the army voters are in the ministers constituencies ! Perhaps its god's will. <br /><br />Can't we practice allow independent body to verify the voting process and count at the same spot, and just add up the figure to other polling centers to arrive at the final score. With this, SC will not be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-60519453957078070112009-09-24T10:07:26.570+08:002009-09-24T10:07:26.570+08:00I like it that you type yr instead of your.
That ...I like it that you type yr instead of your.<br /><br />That makes you cool in my dictionary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-47258020202444028052009-09-24T00:41:46.244+08:002009-09-24T00:41:46.244+08:00Anonymous said...
"Camp Comm is treated ...Anonymous said...<br /><br /> "Camp Comm is treated like god by army.."<br /><br />Are you talking on behalf of the Muslim or what? For your information, not a bit of Muslim would ever treat the camp comm like what you have suggested. Are you pulling the Muslim's leg, arsehole?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-46298223165392950022009-09-24T00:18:23.646+08:002009-09-24T00:18:23.646+08:00Salam Lebaran Dato'
You wrote... "milita...Salam Lebaran Dato'<br /><br />You wrote... "military men are prevented from voting on their own freewill. I do not agree with his claim which unfortunately is not supported by facts." I agree to that.<br /><br />There is no way, the militaries are prevented from their own free will.. I have spoken to a few of them, if they wish to vote for opposition they did and no action taken soAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-42198419148250174822009-09-23T23:58:17.422+08:002009-09-23T23:58:17.422+08:00I'm an army officer and i will be voting in Ba...I'm an army officer and i will be voting in Bagan Pinang. My vote will definitely go to BN not because a camp commandant or a General is 'forcing' me but because i think PR is full of sh*t!!!<br /><br />Major A.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-50854085389448145812009-09-23T23:43:53.555+08:002009-09-23T23:43:53.555+08:00""Camp Comm is treated like god by army....""Camp Comm is treated like god by army.. This is vital during war, but during peace time, well, those camp comm will do and have whatever their heart desire and that usually breach the rules. Financial mismanagement, do the don'ts, spend rakyat's money like their own"" <br /><br />This is very misleading. If you are referring "camp comm" as the camp comdt orYaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11260180416598641935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-6676598096745707042009-09-23T23:26:52.089+08:002009-09-23T23:26:52.089+08:00Mat Cha'ie says,
"-don't challenge u...Mat Cha'ie says,<br /><br />"-don't challenge us the ex soldier as though we are telling lies like many UMNO goons."<br /><br />That Dr is a professional and he is not the only one around. His recollection might just be an isolated incidence. As AK 47 put it, anyone could be skewed nowadays to tell all sort of delusion on the Net. <br /><br />APOLITIKALAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-35605568792832825252009-09-23T23:18:04.234+08:002009-09-23T23:18:04.234+08:00""the voting cards are serialised."...""the voting cards are serialised."" <br /><br />Everything in the army is serialised ie personnel equipment duty roaster and what not. This is for easy accounting, control and check and balance.<br /><br />Take for example in the list of army voters, serial Ten is Ahmad. When Ahmad approaches the controlling officer, his name is checked, ticked and given the voting slip. He Yaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11260180416598641935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-46299737700886308212009-09-23T23:14:32.058+08:002009-09-23T23:14:32.058+08:00Salam Moderator,
My uncle was told by the religio...Salam Moderator,<br /><br />My uncle was told by the religion-based party not to vote any other candidate unless Moslem. Don't you think this a sort of coercion?<br /><br />How about this one. The same party told their supporters to only vote its candidate if they wanted to go heaven. Could that be construed as bribery?<br /><br />Dulu PasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-48519996326715744632009-09-23T22:47:14.601+08:002009-09-23T22:47:14.601+08:00Datuk,
Camp Comm is treated like god by army.. Thi...Datuk,<br />Camp Comm is treated like god by army.. This is vital during war, but during peace time, well, those camp comm will do and have whatever their heart desire and that usually breach the rules. Financial mismanagement, do the don'ts, spend rakyat's money like their own, u name it, is a cliche associate with the army. So, anonymous vote by our soldiers? I doubt it Datuk..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-87629195742425962352009-09-23T22:42:34.949+08:002009-09-23T22:42:34.949+08:00AK47 is right in his comments. Not all army's ...AK47 is right in his comments. Not all army's camp follow the same procedure. Similarly what was written by Major Rafick or in<br />rights2write blog is also correct. Major Rafick wrote what was peculiar to the naval camp based on what he has seen. <br /><br />Infact that there are instigators within the camps, each belonging to BN,PAS or PKR. Take as an example if the commanding officer is Yaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11260180416598641935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-86635034075383870382009-09-23T22:13:26.609+08:002009-09-23T22:13:26.609+08:00To' Sak,
a close friend of mine was a soldier ...To' Sak,<br />a close friend of mine was a soldier based in kuching, ipoh etc. a camp in kl was his last posting.<br />he was just a grunt. ie didn't reach officer level when he took voluntary retirement at 40.<br />he is an umno man and so is his wife. i say this to show that he is not some pro-opposition type who might want to exaggerate against the govt.<br /><br />near voting time ABChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12535291757191078387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-85243631000724225312009-09-23T20:45:29.258+08:002009-09-23T20:45:29.258+08:00Dato Sak
Despite your appealing comments, the fac...Dato Sak<br /><br />Despite your appealing comments, the fact remains that the voting cards are serialised and as such are not secret ballots.<br /><br />Every soldier knows the risk, however smart he/she is.<br /><br />Why have references on the ballot cards??Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-5733287225465350462009-09-23T19:57:28.218+08:002009-09-23T19:57:28.218+08:00anon at 14:06.
mat chaie or however you want to ca...anon at 14:06.<br />mat chaie or however you want to call yrself. i have invited you to tell in yr own words in blogspace, you still refuse. rather than doing that, you have chosen the conceited way to prevent me from saying these things on account of my not being a soldier. shall i then use yr perverted logic to say since you were a soldier you have lost the skills of being a civilian. i have Ariff Sabrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04134536173557859031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-2404575975317446572009-09-23T18:35:06.814+08:002009-09-23T18:35:06.814+08:00Mat Cha'ie,
Before you decide to go after Dato...Mat Cha'ie,<br />Before you decide to go after Dato' consider these facts.<br />This blog you had frequented was developed by engineers from Google - the Americans. There was no MSC, no MDC no whatever crap, the first funding Google got was a mere $100 k US, right now its worth half the GDP of the country.<br />It became so successful because in America, you can have an opinion and the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-4871513786157880632009-09-23T18:26:00.368+08:002009-09-23T18:26:00.368+08:00Well Sakmongol, please dig a hole in your backyard...Well Sakmongol, please dig a hole in your backyard and bury that AK47 of yours.<br /><br />You were not a soldier and will never be one.<br /><br />So stop talking rubbish about them.<br /><br />What gratitude are you talking about. Government is supposed to be spending billions on equipment, but they end up with inferior products because people in power will siphon off millions along the way. <Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-82973707073647524492009-09-23T18:11:58.760+08:002009-09-23T18:11:58.760+08:00WILL THE EC WIN BAGAN PINANG FOR BN LIKE IN BATANG...<a href="http://zorro-zorro-unmasked.blogspot.com/2009/09/will-ec-win-bagan-pinang-for-bn-like-in.html" rel="nofollow">WILL THE EC WIN BAGAN PINANG FOR BN LIKE IN BATANG AI</a><br /><br />"However, not all bases are covered. The EC still has to allow the supervision of vote-counting in the camps and to allow Mafrel or Pakatan Rakyat reps to accompany the ballot boxes to the main counting Manaturehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551634773665093456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-64083073449885296422009-09-23T18:07:03.007+08:002009-09-23T18:07:03.007+08:00"It's either loyalty or worried about the..."It's either loyalty or worried about the consequences."<br /><br />When their well being inside the army is at stake because of the possibility that their votes are not secret, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why often postal votes are very near to 100% way above the national average.<br /><br />Saky is trying to justify the unjustifiable. Let him be.Anak Bangsa Malaysiahttp://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-saya-anak-bangsa-malaysia-sampan-sets-out-to-sea/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-18987655290609881042009-09-23T16:30:45.873+08:002009-09-23T16:30:45.873+08:00Guys,
Cool down man! Lets not be those in Sect...Guys,<br /> Cool down man! Lets not be those in Section 23 who create chaos. Yup, everybody knows those goons are originated from UMNO. Moslems somemore. During the month of Ramadhan. Sak's still a reasonable guys. Hence, I wanted to share with Datuk Sak the story of this remarkable person, Claus Von Stauffenberg<br /><br />Sak,<br /> Stauffenberg just as you are, dreamt of an Ideal Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1604477176521753208.post-3737547975325989952009-09-23T15:54:26.761+08:002009-09-23T15:54:26.761+08:00Hmmm...
I read your arguments. I do not know whe...Hmmm... <br /><br />I read your arguments. I do not know whether I should feel sad or happy UMNO is not listening to you.<br /><br />Do you ever cross your mind that if UMNO loses Bagan Pinang, it will really present a VERY ASTOUNDING wakeup call for them to make drastic changes from there onwards?<br /><br />A win here in Bagan Pinang will give UMNO more reasons of not changing as they will see TohkongMosjidnoreply@blogger.com